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Shall I pay for shoes

142 replies

Doginthebed · 12/11/2023 19:05

My daughter had a friend over today, said friend left shoes downstairs and puppy chewed them slightly. She has been over before and told to put shoes on stairs out of way. I was in bathroom when she arrived . Aibu to not refund £150 for shoes . They are very wearable just nibbled on on top back area .

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Tally00 · 12/11/2023 20:28

Meeting · 12/11/2023 20:13

@OhComeOnFFS most trainers from Nike etc will set you back a minimum of £100 these days, and they would be for every day wear. The price per wear ends up being next to nothing.

Just bought my dd some Nike trainers in sport direct for £24

sep135 · 12/11/2023 20:34

I'm amazed at how many people think that £150 is extortionate for shoes. Do people not prefer to buy good quality (and often expensive) shoes that last years rather than cheap ones all the time?

Sadly there's not always a correlation as far as trainers go. I bought a pair of £25 Adidas trainers 10 years ago and they still look as good as new. My son has recently bought a pair of £150 Air Jordans and £100 Air Forces and the upper split from the sole within 6 months on both pairs. The leather on the Air Jordan's also looks dreadful.

Sadly you're often paying for the name, not the quality.

IAmAnIdiot123 · 12/11/2023 20:40

I'd be mortified if one of my animals ruined someone's property so would offer to pay the full amount. I also would not want my child to suffer socially if this became an issue.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 12/11/2023 20:42

It's neither her, nor there what OP feels is reasonable re cost of shoes or damage.
Her dog damaged a guest's property.
The excuses are ridiculous.
This is a poorly behaved dog, but it is entirely the fault of the owner. The responsibility is with the adult who is the home owner.
Guests coming over? Maybe lock your dog away. 🤷‍♀️
Pay for the shoes.
Train your dog.
Take responsibility and apologize.

The many posts outraged and debating shoes on or off, age of guest and cost are just as ridiculous. None of this matters.

ichundich · 12/11/2023 20:46

Well, if the parents ask for the money and you refuse, it might impact your child's friendship going forward. I wouldn't ask if I was the parent, but others might. Can't you claim the money back via your liability or home insurance?

Snugglemonkey · 12/11/2023 20:49

Doginthebed · 12/11/2023 19:43

Dds friends always told to leave on stairs out of reach. I was in bathroom but friend been before and told “house rules” Not reminded this time as I was in bathroom .

Then I think you need to pay.

Imperfectp3rf3ction · 12/11/2023 20:51

I would meet in the middle and buy a decent but reasonably priced replacement or offer £40 -£50 towards out of courtesy. How old are the kids though?

Poula · 12/11/2023 20:54

I wouldn’t pay the whole cost.

But I think you really need to control and train your dog properly.

UndertheCedartree · 12/11/2023 21:02

I wouldn't necessarily remember to put my shoes away from a puppy. I don't have dogs so it isn't something I ever think about and not something I've ever come across at someone else's house. However, if I had a dog that would damage people's shoes I would think it was up to me make sure guest's shoes were out of reach.

VisionsOfSplendour · 12/11/2023 21:21

Imperfectp3rf3ction · 12/11/2023 20:51

I would meet in the middle and buy a decent but reasonably priced replacement or offer £40 -£50 towards out of courtesy. How old are the kids though?

Ime most teens have strong views on their footwear and buying anything other than what they want to wear would a waste of money

Who would be happy with some random shoes as a replacement for ones they actually like and have chosen?

PaperDoIIs · 12/11/2023 21:32

I'd say no. She knows the rules, she's been there before, she knows the issue. She's 25 not 5, by that age you know to ask or to put shoes/coats wherever all the other ones are.
You weren't even there when she came in.

I have a cat. The dumbass loves sitting on guests' coats and ends up kneading them so everyone that comes around is told to hook their coat up, take it with them in DD's bedroom and definitely get the cat off if they see him on it. One kid(11 so not actually small)did get their coat torn slightly. She left it on the floor in DD's bedroom , and then went out to play . Cat went in and made a cozy nest. I did apologise to the parent but didn't offer to pay.

AmazonNewbie · 12/11/2023 21:34

This reminds me of the time I had a visitor and my lab chewed a whole shoe, leaving the other in tact. Luckily my visitor had a sense of humour and was laughing as she hopped to the car. I did offer to pay but she wouldn’t accept any money - luckily they were some cheap pumps from Sainsbury’s 🤣

I see the dog haters are out again - my lab is a rescue with mental health issues- or maybe he’s just mental, I’m not sure but he doesn’t respond to training or instructions, he just needs love and attention ❤️

wited · 12/11/2023 21:36

How bad was the chewing?

Blondebutnotlegally · 12/11/2023 21:52

Mumtobabyhavoc · 12/11/2023 20:42

It's neither her, nor there what OP feels is reasonable re cost of shoes or damage.
Her dog damaged a guest's property.
The excuses are ridiculous.
This is a poorly behaved dog, but it is entirely the fault of the owner. The responsibility is with the adult who is the home owner.
Guests coming over? Maybe lock your dog away. 🤷‍♀️
Pay for the shoes.
Train your dog.
Take responsibility and apologize.

The many posts outraged and debating shoes on or off, age of guest and cost are just as ridiculous. None of this matters.

I mean, if I told a guest my hamster chews through anything left on or touching his cage, and my guest decided to hang their coat on the corner, whose fault would that be?

Even so, OP didn't know guest was there, 15 year olds come in/out. It wasn't a classic hosting situation.

mylittleprince · 12/11/2023 21:53

I think you should pay personally. Your dog ruined her shoes. The cost of the shoes is irrelevant, loads of teens wear Nikes costing that much and yes I am a dog owner.

QueenBitch666 · 12/11/2023 21:55

A 15 year old with £150 shoes? WTAF?

Onelifeonly · 12/11/2023 22:01

At 15 it's really the child's responsibility. At that age I wouldn't necessarily be answering the door to them or checking they are ok - that would be up to my DC. So I think it is on them, especially as they've been to your house before.

Even if you feel moved to contribute, you shouldn't pay in full. An insurance company would deduct for wear and tear. But I don't think you should pay anything unless you have a particular reason for pacifying the parent (good friend of yours you want to keep, for example).

Hullabalooza · 12/11/2023 22:16

If you want to preserve your dd’s friendship, I would consider offering some sort of compensation. A 15 year old who doesn’t live with a chewy dog can’t be expected to know how important it is to keep shoes in certain locations. The cost is inconsequential, the shoes are chewed regardless. Without a photo it’s hard to comment, but if they are wearable albeit a little damaged, maybe offer 50% towards a different pair of their choice. If it’s worse than that, you should really pay the whole amount. Regardless of which option you choose, you should be apologetic not entitled about the fact she dared to leave her shoes out. This is standard protocol when visiting homes, and she’s 15- doesn’t have the life experience and foresight to predict what happened.

Poula · 12/11/2023 22:42

AmazonNewbie · 12/11/2023 21:34

This reminds me of the time I had a visitor and my lab chewed a whole shoe, leaving the other in tact. Luckily my visitor had a sense of humour and was laughing as she hopped to the car. I did offer to pay but she wouldn’t accept any money - luckily they were some cheap pumps from Sainsbury’s 🤣

I see the dog haters are out again - my lab is a rescue with mental health issues- or maybe he’s just mental, I’m not sure but he doesn’t respond to training or instructions, he just needs love and attention ❤️

You think it’s ’dog-hating’ to not want your footwear to be chewed up by a dog? Because the dog needs love?

Do you also say, ‘aww he’s just being friendly’ when your dog bounds up to and jumps on strangers?

Doginthebed · 12/11/2023 23:15

What a load of Shit. It's a puppy . Rules explained many times. It snot about training. It's mine and dds house !! Puppy is young . Our shoes left out of the way . Guest told to do the same

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Doginthebed · 12/11/2023 23:17

Erm.shes been told before!!

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Mumtobabyhavoc · 12/11/2023 23:26

OP, why post if you just want to fight? Seems you just want opinions supporting a decision it seems you've already made.
FWIW, saying "she's been told" etc would be appropriate re you own child, not a guest. If you don't want this problem then you and daughter need to take responsibility to unsure guest's items are properly out if the way.
I'd be mortified my pet caused damage to any guest's belongings and would have rung the parent immediately to apologize and offer reimbursement for a like replacement.
You say it's a puppy- it's not the puppies fault. It's yours.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 12/11/2023 23:32

Mumtobabyhavoc · 12/11/2023 23:26

OP, why post if you just want to fight? Seems you just want opinions supporting a decision it seems you've already made.
FWIW, saying "she's been told" etc would be appropriate re you own child, not a guest. If you don't want this problem then you and daughter need to take responsibility to unsure guest's items are properly out if the way.
I'd be mortified my pet caused damage to any guest's belongings and would have rung the parent immediately to apologize and offer reimbursement for a like replacement.
You say it's a puppy- it's not the puppies fault. It's yours.

Edited

Please excuse the typos. 🤦‍♀️

RantyAnty · 12/11/2023 23:44

Yes, you should pay.

This isn't an XL 'puppy' is it?

QueenBitch666 · 13/11/2023 00:28

Her shoes, her responsibility. She knew the rules. I wouldn't pay a penny