To think Michael Gove wasn’t just out for a stroll through Victoria station last night

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So Michael Gove just ‘happened’ to be strolling through Victoria station last night right through the middle of a pro- palestine sit in 🙄 How fucking stupid do they think people are?

Deflects nicely from Suella & right wing Tommy Robinson mob doesn’t it. The palestine March was mostly peaceful given the huge numbers but you always get a few dickheads on any March. The right wing mob however we’re fighting with police at the cenotaph. The state of this country.

I don't really care why he was there tbh, he shouldn't have been treated like that full stop.
No one should be hassled walking through a train station.

I say lock all racists and xenophobes up for using this conflict to abuse both Jewish people and Muslim people and you call me a terrorist sympathiser?

You can get in the moon-howler club with Gove ya fucking melt.

No they did not. At least attempt to get facts right. Marches of some sort usually take place on a Saturday and this one is no different. It just so happened Armistice fell on a Saturday this year.

YABU
Michael Gove is allowed to walk through any station in the UK without being threatened, abused and intimidated. This is a democratic country fortunately.

😂

Exactly.
Do you tell your daughters not to go out on dark streets wearing short skirts? If they’re had a drink they are practically asking for it.

Nadine Dorries thought he may have been drunk:

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/michael-gove-mobbed-victoria-station-dorries-b2445934.html

Equally the people of this country should be permitted to protest if they so choose without government ministers abusing them.

Why does this even matter? There is no crime against being drunk and walking quietly home through a station. He's absolutely allowed to do that in London. It's still not a crime.

And if this were Suella Braverman getting verbals from protestors you might have a point.

Nadine Dorries thinks that this story presents the ghost of a chance to attack the man who knifed her hero in the back. If Michael Gove were filmed jumping into a river to save a drowning puppy she'd question whether he had a swimming licence.

They're divorced

Ministers especially those in the cabinet are bound by collective responsibility. If Gove does not approve of Braverman inciting hatred then he should have resigned by now.

I meant it as in “Ummmmmm 🤔” no “yes”

Collective responsibility for actions taken in cabinet, not for random and highly irresponsible articles in the press.

If you ever do a protest march in London on a Saturday... there's a Queue. Of different protest marches, I mean. Your march literally books it's slot to join the preapproved route which is sectioned off.

It's very dispiriting, really. You think your march is special and it's just one of 5 or 6 scheduled that day. You see the others set off in front or coming in behind you.

On plus side, I think drivers find it amusing because they sound their horns in support no matter what you're marching about. Something to kill the boredom of central London traffic, maybe.

Anyway, these anti-war-in-Gaza marches have been booked on Saturdays for a few weeks now. Yesterday was just No. 4 or 5 in a series.

It is reasonable to assume that the words of the Home Secretary particularly on a subject that is within the brief of the Home Office represent the position of the government ie to incite hatred and other people. If Gove does not share that view he should resign.

Do you tell your daughters not to go out on dark streets wearing short skirts? If they’re had a drink they are practically asking for it.

My daughter doesn't whip up hatred and fuck up everything in the country. She doesn't deliberately pit people against each other in a calculated attempt to gain power at all costs. She doesn't deliberately set out to make things worse for children, and the people who make the country actually run.

It's not an analogy about victim blaming. It's more like a man who runs dog-fighting rings, hitting and starving dogs, complaining that when he falls in the pit himself, he gets snarled at and 'jostled'.

He should be able to walk safely through a station. So should everyone. But him and his have decided to make the country worse so it's less safe for everyone. I know he believes he isn't 'everyone' but he is.

Politics in the UK and US is being deliberately made more divisive and polarised. More confrontational and less cooperative. He's not stupid, he knows that's what they've done, he's read more about divide and conquer than me, I imagine. They chose this for power. Just like the US. And the result is angry people. They know that. They created it.

Mumsnet,by virtue of that title, would suggest it was only for mums. To my mind this is fine.I was just saying I’m a little surprised that somebody hasnt objected to the title in these days of hypersensitivity and the desire for exclusivity. Many organisations have changed their titles to appear less exclusive eg a council near me refuses to use the term chairman, so not wanting to appear to refer only to males, they use the term, presiding person.
I’m really just being controversial. Naughty I know.

You've somehow ended up on the completely wrong thread. I think you should have taken that left turn at Albuquerque.

They are a bunch of tory wankers. Hth

Thanks for pointing this out I’ll delete and try again

Meanwhile in Paris there is an antisemitism march. No placards, shouting or masks. Nobody shouting 'If the police weren't here I would end you'. I don't support the bombing of Gaza but these marches have done nothing but cause fear in the Jewish community in this country.

In a horrible, sick way, though, at least they're being open about their hostility. Over here, people are bewailing how they just can't find any good Jews even though they've searched long and hard because they themselves are such great people. And on being told how unbelievably antisemitic that is, suddenly they now have dozens of Jewish friends, whom they visit all the time, kissing their bums every day. They're the last people ever to be antisemitic, oy vay.

Yes, I have a few particular posters on here in mind but I think they've name changed. I certainly know MNHQ didn't ban them.

Are you in France?