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Not invited :(

451 replies

BlueNavy · 11/11/2023 23:28

Mum friends just posted on FB them all out drinking and having fun tonight. I'm on the sofa watching telly, wasn't invited and really upset about it. All people I'm friends with and I would have loved to have gone. No falling out, get on with everyone, I hate that things like this happen. Feeling shit now and wondering what else I've missed. Only know cause of stupid social media.😔

OP posts:
betterangels · 12/11/2023 10:47

I would send.....'I realise all of you chose to exclude me from the party and I understand you no longer want my friendship but it would help my personal growth if you were all to tell me exactly why'.

God, please don't do this. That's not going to help at all. They'd probably just roll their eyes.

unfairornot · 12/11/2023 10:50

If it's still playing on your mind you could ask one of the group. I'd pull back a bit and try to do some bits separate from the group- join a club or a meet up group try to expand your social circle

getinthedust · 12/11/2023 10:50

PabloandGustheGreySquirrels · 12/11/2023 10:41

Why would OP be embarrassed by saying "Looks a good night?"

Because it won’t have the desired effect and they will roll their eyes.

SeasonalWitch · 12/11/2023 10:52

I speak from experience here, sadly. Listen to what this situation is telling you - they don’t consider you in the core group for some reason and there’s no way back now.

You’ll naturally ponder on what isn’t good enough for them for a while but please don’t wallow in it. Some women just want to be around others that mirror themselves or elevate them in looks/life/insecurities and anyone that might be slightly different or not confirm that for them naturally gets pushed out. Anyone who kills their buzz by having babysitter issues, marital issues they go on about, who doesn’t drink as much or drinks too much and gets rowdy, who is not as glammed up as they like to be etc etc. will be invited out less.

You have your own worth and need to find your true tribe. Don’t forget that mum friend groups usually only have the kids in common and they naturally change over time.

I’d say these meet ups without you have happened for a while and the photo got posted because they got a bit lax about hiding it.

As others have advised. Don’t post. Don’t bring it up. Stay bright and breezy but don’t hang about expecting to chat like old times. Be busy with your own life. See how each person reacts to you in person now that they know you know. You’ve got to hold your head high and start making an effort to get to know some different people.

Don’t burn bridges with confronting comments for your kid’s sake as it’ll be awkward if they want a play date. Acceptance of the true nature of the situation is key.

Irritatedandfedupandsad · 12/11/2023 10:56

ripplingwater · 12/11/2023 09:13

The good news about school mum friendships groups is that they usually disband as the kids hit 11 and go to different schools, and only close friendships remain

Yup- there were quite a few cliquey mum groups at my son's school. I spoke to them several times in a friendly, relaxed manner but they didnt want to know. None of them are friends now it seems - it was just a friendship based on convenience and drop off times. Thats not real friendship in my book- I'm still close friends with people I went to school with- if you truly care about someone you'll make the effort to keep in contact.

My children left primary school about 12years ago. And yes the majority of friendships fizzle once the kids go to secondary.
I still see 3-4 friends that I made,who I love to bits spread between my children years.The cliques all dispersed quite quickly !

MayThe4th · 12/11/2023 10:58

This potentially isn’t black and white though.

While it’s clear this group have deliberately excluded the OP, it’s possible there may be a valid reason for them having done so.

When my DS was at primary there was a group of mums who did sometimes get together, generally at one of their houses, and there was one of the mums who used to go and people used to invite her because she was lonely and didn’t really have friends in the area.

Thing is, whenever she came she would get blind drunk and spend half the night crying on someone, ending up with someone having to drive her home and take another half hour before she composed herself enough to actually go into the house. it always brought the evening down completely, and while people did still talk to her at the school gates etc and I often brought her dc home from school events and for playdates to my house etc, people stopped inviting her on the nights out.

This was before the days of whatsapp groups, but tbh I don’t think that anyone would have felt able to say to her why she wasn’t being invited any more.

So while we know that this group have intentionally excluded the OP, we don’t actually know why. And while it’s easy to say that they’re in the wrong, they equally may not be.

Blackcatowner44 · 12/11/2023 10:59

KimberleyClark · 12/11/2023 10:33

OP it is possible you are too nice. Some groups of women friends bond through bitching. If it doesn’t come naturally to you to be two faced ( it doesn’t to me either) they’ll think you are boring. You are much better off without these people.

Hmm it is but I've been on the other side of the fence before seen people excluded who:

Got ridiculously drunk and expected the group to rally round, look after her and make sure she got home safely.

Made the night difficult and stressful EG extremely picky and refusing to compromise on where we should eat.

Constantly ordered expensive drinks on other people's rounds and ducking out of getting their own.

Talked at people all evening rather than having two way conversations.

Treated the night out like a photoshoot making everybody stop what they were doing every 30 seconds for a carefully posed social media photo.

So whilst the women involved may well be a bunch of cows who are shouldering OP out for no reason, it's also a good idea to reflect and try to get an honest answer to see if she is making some sort of faux pas that she is unaware of.

Bobtheamazinggingerdog · 12/11/2023 11:01

PabloandGustheGreySquirrels · 12/11/2023 10:41

Why would OP be embarrassed by saying "Looks a good night?"

Because it's passive aggressive, pointed and cringey. It obviously means 'why didn't you include me' whilst avoiding saying it.

SheerLucks · 12/11/2023 11:05

I'm so sorry OP, what a horrible situation.

At my DC's junior school there was a group of very cliquey middle-class mums with a very mean queen bee.

I was friends with one of the group but not in it, and the things I heard about that went on were shocking. It was quite depressing that these people were still behaving like they were at school, and they were all intelligent women.

They've all distanced themselves from the queen bee now apparently, so I would wait it out OP.

Angrymum22 · 12/11/2023 11:11

Bobtheamazinggingerdog · 12/11/2023 11:01

Because it's passive aggressive, pointed and cringey. It obviously means 'why didn't you include me' whilst avoiding saying it.

And there is nothing like a bit of passive aggression to make those who it is aimed at feel mean and uncomfortable.
I would imagine that the group are all busy Whatsapping this morning commenting.
I hope it leaves a bad taste.
If it wasn’t intentional then OP will be receiving heart felt apologies this morning.

Doteycat · 12/11/2023 11:11

Personal growth.
Wld ya get ta fuck now.
Really.

BlueGrey1 · 12/11/2023 11:11

It’s strange, do you think they have set up a separate whattsapp group

dis anyone comment on your FB comment

YellowRoses100 · 12/11/2023 11:17

I haven't had a chance to read all the posts. But if the night out wanst mentioned on the group chat. Means they have a separate chat going as well. Sorry OP. I hope you're OK.x

getinthedust · 12/11/2023 11:19

Angrymum22 · 12/11/2023 11:11

And there is nothing like a bit of passive aggression to make those who it is aimed at feel mean and uncomfortable.
I would imagine that the group are all busy Whatsapping this morning commenting.
I hope it leaves a bad taste.
If it wasn’t intentional then OP will be receiving heart felt apologies this morning.

Edited

Believe me they won’t.

Topsy44 · 12/11/2023 11:20

Sorry to hear that’s happened to you. I think SeasonalWitch’s advice is spot on.

LuckySantangelo35 · 12/11/2023 11:27

Sausage1989 · 12/11/2023 02:47

Why is it nasty? Maybe they just don't like her? You can't force people to like someone? I actually think it's massive red flags how this woman is obsessed with going out with a group of women. I don't get it.

@Sausage1989

wtf? You don’t get someone wanting to go out with their friends?!

MasterBeth · 12/11/2023 11:29

ErniesGhostlyGoldTops · 12/11/2023 09:40

I would send.....'I realise all of you chose to exclude me from the party and I understand you no longer want my friendship but it would help my personal growth if you were all to tell me exactly why'.

This would be on a background of my already having taken the decision to no longer be friends with them but it might shame them into realising what a bunch of bitches they have spiralled into being. If they don't respond, it would be an even further and larger act of nastiness and therefore more for them to face up to.

Good grief.

If you really want to give people an excuse to mock you behind your back, send that message.

ChannelNo19EDT · 12/11/2023 11:30

I completely get it. I am peripheral to a few groups, so it's not like I never go out in a group, I'm included occasionally. But generally, I'm nobody's best friend. I am the acquaintance. I have this habit of believing that a connection I imagined was mutual :-/

I do have some friends that I go out with one to one. I don't know, am I too intense for a group? I don't know, I feel like I am good company, a good listener, funny, but as some others upthread have alluded to, I am maybe not glossy enough............ I am averagely attractive I know but I have less money than average, I'm single. My job is v modest. My flat is very very modest. I have enough, but a friendship with me would not validate anybody else. That is not something I can provide!

ginandtonicwithlimes · 12/11/2023 11:31

Sausage1989 · 12/11/2023 03:00

It's not necessarily 'nasty' maybe they don't like her. How she's acting i wouldn't want her in my life either.

How is she acting? Not seen anything she has done wrong.

Juni11 · 12/11/2023 11:32

sorry this has happened OP. Very teenage mean girl behaviour.

giving the benefit of the doubt and assuming this has not happened before - could there have been a communication issue?

I would message one of the group you feel closest to and say, ‘Hi, saw the photos of the mums night out on FB, made me a bit sad as we always usually meet as a group - have I done something to upset you all? it’s made me feel weird to be the only one from the group to be left out. What’s going on?’

A decent friend would message or call right back to explain and reassure.

itsalongwaybackfromsorry · 12/11/2023 11:32

Slothmomma · 12/11/2023 10:06

I had similar happen - it was beginning of end. One night out turned into not being invited out to birthday celebrations and so on. Absolutely nothing had happened or changed save that I was no longer useful to the ring leader as our circumstances changed so I'd been effectively used for years it seems. I cut all contact as won't fight to be in someone's life that doesn't want me.

Yes, when I looked back after it happened to me, that's exactly what it was: I was no longer 'useful' to the ringleader, so effectively dumped.

I'm much more careful of people these days.

ChannelNo19EDT · 12/11/2023 11:33

Fizzadora · 11/11/2023 23:51

What?
I would have added "Have I been deliberately left out or did no one bother to check that I knew about it."

Yes, sometimes you need to shine a light on it, directly and calmly.

Sorry @ErniesGhostlyGoldTops your situation is different, you were in this group, not peripheral, they must have created a separate channel for communication which is so unnecessarily exclusionary and petty.

Howbizarre22 · 12/11/2023 11:33

If this was me & i could definitely with certainty say I hadn’t mentioned to them money issues, or being busy at that time I would decide instantly that these are not my people because I wouldn’t want to be friends with anyone who could do that to a person. I wouldn’t feel any loss because again: not nice people. Not for me. Better off with better friends and leave these too it. Matter if time before they do it to another member of the group. Rise above OP x

Sunnydays0101 · 12/11/2023 11:35

If it’s an active WhatsApp group and you usually go out together, I’d just message and ask why you weren’t invited last night ?

ValerieVomit · 12/11/2023 11:36

BlueNavy · 11/11/2023 23:47

I can't step away from them all. That's my whole friendship group where i live, or so I thought. Have commented on the FB pic saying "looks a fun night". Will wait and see if anyone replies

I'd've done more than that. I'd have asked where my invite was as a reply on the post. You CAN step away from them all. This is why I don't do friendship groups because they can be snidey and sneaky. I'd rather have a mix of friends that might occasionally overlap but not a whole exclusive bunch with no other friends.