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NIGEL FARAGE ON GB NEWS - WTF???

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hideoushideoushideous · 11/11/2023 17:38

GB 'News' - when did this start? It's not even news - there's no on the scene reporters. Just dubious characters and selected commentators spewing xenophobic shite.

When all other news channels were reporting the developing situation in Gaza this week, all GB News we're doing was attempting to stir up outrage about today's Pro-Palestinian March.

I couldn't believe what I saw. Farage has his own show to spew his poisonous divisive diatribe. He was showing some random photo of some (white, middle-aged) poppy sellers outside a tube station. There were people from last weekend's Palestinian support march coming out if the tube station. Some had children. Some were non-white (as in any London street). All just walking - nothing to remark about. Farage was saying the photo was definitive evidence that immigration has gone too far and we have brought in too many people "who don't share British values." Wtf! Most if the people in the photo are probably as British as him! Farage is despicable and his language is that of hate and division. I can't believe he gets away with it.

I can only assume Suella Braverman is auditioning for GB News, given her pathetic attempts to incite division this week.

Well NF and SB - looks like your vile narrative has backfired. Who were the ones arrested for disorder today? The Far Right morons (what GB News would equate with the 'Great British Public').

NF (and SB) need to go. They are dangerous. Enough is enough. AIBU.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 11/11/2023 19:34

GB News is not a news channel. Its a RW opinion channel where sex offenders, Climate change deniers and Tory MPs are paid to tell us what they think.

It's not all bad though. It has some gems. I love the face Josh Howie does when he speaks the channel's view but doesn't believe a word of it. I'm really enjoying The Dinosaur Hour too.

But mostly it's nasty and hate mongering. What it isn't is a news channel.

pointythings · 11/11/2023 20:06

@Coveescapee the issue here is that TR and his mates had no need to be near the Cenotaph. The pro Palestine march route wasn't scheduled to go near it, so what were they doing there but stirring up trouble? Who were they protecting it from, the people paying homage?

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 20:07

Farage is actually a fantastic interviewer. One of the best I've seen.

verdantverdure · 11/11/2023 20:09

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 20:07

Farage is actually a fantastic interviewer. One of the best I've seen.

GrinNo he isn't!

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 20:11

I do find it amusing when extreme left-wingers are suddenly exposed to something that makes them realise not everyone thinks like them, their echo chamber implodes, and this is their reaction... they just can't cope with people having different worldviews. The only way they can rationalise is to brand it with vague labels like "far right" and "xenophobic", reassuring themselves that they're the good, enlightened ones.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/11/2023 20:14

I find it distinctly unamusing and worrying when people believe that GB News is a news channel.

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 20:17

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/11/2023 20:14

I find it distinctly unamusing and worrying when people believe that GB News is a news channel.

What about the BBC? Are you aware that the BBC has been getting its casualty figures from Gaza's Hamas-run health service, which doesn't even distinguish between civilian and military casualties? It depends on your measuring stick, but the BBC certainly isn't a source of reliable, balanced news.

Museum1066 · 11/11/2023 20:20

Have you gone down the rabbit hole op ?

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 20:35

There IS a problem of people holding illiberal, anti-Semitic values in the UK, and this comes in part from the left-wing middle classes and from the more extreme ends of Islamism.

There has been a lot of research into anti-Semitism within certain factions of the Muslim community. If it's ok to talk about, for example, the problem of how gay people have been treated by the Church, it needs to also be ok to talk about how Jewish people are perceived by Muslims. It is a problem and we aren't doing anyone any favours by not talking about it and confronting it. (YES this is a highly nuanced issue, not involving all Muslims, obviously).
https://henryjacksonsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/HJS-British-Muslim-Anti-Semitism-Report-web-1.pdf

You're offended on behalf of people with views who SHOULD be called out. If some of these people have imported their views from countries where Jews are more overtly discriminated against, that does not mean we shouldn't confront it.

Some posters from today's protest.

NIGEL FARAGE ON GB NEWS - WTF???
NIGEL FARAGE ON GB NEWS - WTF???
Coveescapee · 11/11/2023 20:57

Yes @CharingX976 all your posts are true.

pointythings · 11/11/2023 20:59

@CharingX976 agreed. But there is also a problem with people holding illiberal and xenophobic views around people who don't agree with the gradual chipping away at our freedoms to protest. And there is a problem with people who equate criticism of Israel's government with antisemitism.

betterangels · 11/11/2023 21:04

Shadowsindarkplaces · 11/11/2023 18:27

MN may find it unpalatable, but a lot of people in this country do agree with him, or it wouldn't be worth the effort otherwise. It appears on FB for some reason, I usually keep scrolling but made the mistake of reading the comments on one occasion. They aren't pleasant, but we ignore them at our peril. The disillusioned, disengaged, and disenfranchised will look for a faction to 'blame' for their own position in life.

This. See also Brexit.

sparklefresh · 11/11/2023 21:06

It's a channel for racist morons.

StaunchMomma · 11/11/2023 21:14

'The right' love to moan about how 'the Left' control the media when in fact they have all of the papers bar 2 and now 2 tv channels entirely devoted to spreading absolute Nationalist bollox.

Add to that the fact that MPs aren't allowed to report on news channels but when asked to look into Farage (and now even Boris!) Ofcom insist GB News isn't a news channel, even though it has news in the title and won a news channel award and, well, it's a feckin' enormously sad state of affairs all round, really!

Thedogscollar · 11/11/2023 21:16

Tinkerbyebye · 11/11/2023 17:55

Oh please just stop

change channels.

in case you don’t remember lots died in various wars to give us the freedom we have to speak as we do

dont like what someone says? Don’t listen watch another channel

Oh the irony, telling somebody to oh please just stop then talking about freedom of speech.
Make your mind up.

YANBU OP. Farage is a trouble maker I wish he'd fuck off to Australia as soon as possible so we can all vote him for every trial on I'm a celeb.
Amazing what passes for a celeb these days.

StaunchMomma · 11/11/2023 21:19

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CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 21:20

Thedogscollar · 11/11/2023 21:16

Oh the irony, telling somebody to oh please just stop then talking about freedom of speech.
Make your mind up.

YANBU OP. Farage is a trouble maker I wish he'd fuck off to Australia as soon as possible so we can all vote him for every trial on I'm a celeb.
Amazing what passes for a celeb these days.

she's clearly saying "oh please stop suggesting that sources you disagree with should be cancelled"

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 21:27

StaunchMomma · 11/11/2023 21:14

'The right' love to moan about how 'the Left' control the media when in fact they have all of the papers bar 2 and now 2 tv channels entirely devoted to spreading absolute Nationalist bollox.

Add to that the fact that MPs aren't allowed to report on news channels but when asked to look into Farage (and now even Boris!) Ofcom insist GB News isn't a news channel, even though it has news in the title and won a news channel award and, well, it's a feckin' enormously sad state of affairs all round, really!

When it comes to xenophobia, GB News couldn't candle to The Guardian which has written disgusting articles like this, minimising Jewish trauma and the Jewish people's need for a safe homeland where they won't be persecuted. I still can't believe this article was allowed: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/24/israel-gaza-palestinians-holocaust

Israel must stop weaponising the Holocaust | Raz Segal

Scholars of genocide are refusing to allow the dangerous use of the Holocaust to justify Israeli mass violence against Palestinians

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/24/israel-gaza-palestinians-holocaust

Newrumpus · 11/11/2023 21:27

NF (and SB) need to go.

What do you mean by this OP?

Nippi · 11/11/2023 21:28

I'm conflicted on GB news. I like the idea of hearing opinions and news from different angles and there is no denying the BBCs left wing bias. However GB news seems to be as right wing as the BBC is left.

TeenagersAngst · 11/11/2023 21:28

It's one of the few channels which tries to air both sides of an argument on the majority of its segments via the guests it has on (regardless of the opinions of its presenters), which very few other channels do.

One of the reasons the BBC has been accused of bias is this - you very often only hear one side of the argument and it becomes an echo chamber. I rather like the Michelle Dewberry slot at 6pm, her guests are always one on the right and one on the left.

pointythings · 11/11/2023 21:40

@CharingX976 so a dissenting voice, from a Holocaust scholar who is actually Israeli, is an example of xenophobia from the Guardian? Looks to me like some people just want to think the Israeli government are whiter than white, Let's not forget that before Hamas started this current spate of terrorist activity, Israelis were protesting in their tens of thousands against their own government's plans to politicise the justice system and stop it from holding the government to account.

anotherside · 11/11/2023 21:50

Looks like you’ve offended the angry GB News snowflakes op!

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/11/2023 22:00

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 20:17

What about the BBC? Are you aware that the BBC has been getting its casualty figures from Gaza's Hamas-run health service, which doesn't even distinguish between civilian and military casualties? It depends on your measuring stick, but the BBC certainly isn't a source of reliable, balanced news.

Yes I am aware of this. The BBC make viewers aware of this in their reports. BBC News along with others are quite reliable.

GB News is a right wing opinion channel. It's not a news channel. That's why it gets repetitive and Ofcom investigations.

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 22:01

pointythings · 11/11/2023 21:40

@CharingX976 so a dissenting voice, from a Holocaust scholar who is actually Israeli, is an example of xenophobia from the Guardian? Looks to me like some people just want to think the Israeli government are whiter than white, Let's not forget that before Hamas started this current spate of terrorist activity, Israelis were protesting in their tens of thousands against their own government's plans to politicise the justice system and stop it from holding the government to account.

It's the minimising of the Holocaust that is a problem, and this is widely accepted as being problematic. the Holocaust is a perfectly legitimate reason for Jews to demand their rights to a safe and secure homeland, and to defend it with everything they have.
And you're wrong, I was also very opposed to and concerned about the Israeli governments plans to change the justice system. I'm not justifying everything the Israeli government has done, but I am saying that many mainstream media outlets have demonstrated atrocious reporting on the conflict. Not least because they take their casualty figures from the Hamas-run health ministry.