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partner won't commit due to finances

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artattack1 · 09/11/2023 08:28

We've been together a few years, I brought up marriage and children a year ago and received a not ready yet. I waited another year and I brought it up because I've just been getting frustrated at nothing. We've lived together a few years (renting), I'm approaching mid 30s and running out of time.
Partner has zero debt and a good amount of savings, which is great. He works in a min wage job ATM and isn't sure what to do. His degree is in a creative area which is hard to make into a full-time career.
He said this week that he found the prospect of marriage and the expectations of it daunting but that he does want to marry me. I said I'd be more than happy with a registry office, I have zero interest in a big wedding day, I've made this very clear.
I don't see how his current job means we can't get engaged, I have no interest in an expensive ring etc. I want marriage for what it represents.
He said he wants to be sure he can provide for a child which is totally understandable. We both work full time and I have a very good maternity leave package, flexible working etc.
I said to him I'm not prepared to hang around for years longer waiting, I made my fertility issue very clear.
He does seem to understand that and said I won't be waiting years.
I asked him for complete honesty. I gave him very ample opportunity to say, sorry, not for me, I don't want these things yet. He insisted he wants marriage and children with me.
I totally understand he wants to be earning above min wage. There are many jobs out there which may not be his dream career, but they'll pay a bit more and are stable. However he lacks motivation to do the applications. I'm scared we will be in this position a year from now and I said this to him. He kept saying he doesn't know what to say. I just don't know what to do.

OP posts:
Nothanksthanksanyway · 09/11/2023 08:30

I’m so sorry but he’s lying. If he wanted to do it, he would. I’d think very hard abut whether or not you want to waste anymore time here.

Goodadvice1980 · 09/11/2023 08:31

Don’t hang around wasting years of fertility OP. If he really wanted the same as you he’d act on it. That’s how it sounds to me.

Shoxfordian · 09/11/2023 08:31

He doesn't have any intention of marrying you - it's not finances- don't let him string you along when he isn't going to commit

Whealspeed · 09/11/2023 08:38

Don't waste another year on him. Set yourself a date, not too far into the future and if nothing has happened by then, move on. It seems to me he doesn't want to commit but you need to see that for yourself. You need a plan for moving on. You don't have time for him to dither.

artattack1 · 09/11/2023 08:39

He said he wants to sort his life out first and stop working dead end jobs. I don't know what to think or do.

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VerrryNiceIndeed · 09/11/2023 08:41

You need to do what suits you and your timeline.

‘I don’t know what to say’ is not very helpful is it?

readingwalker · 09/11/2023 08:41

At 35 I wouldn't be hanging around if not having children was a deal breaker for you. What do you think he'd do if you told him he needed to decide one way or other?

VerrryNiceIndeed · 09/11/2023 08:42

Also he is not actively seeking a new job and not motivated to do so. That says it all.

Fairygoblin · 09/11/2023 08:44

If he's the same age as you he's had plenty of years to find a job that suits/pays more than minimum wage. If he doesn't have motivation and ambition by now he never will! I think you'd have a life of frustration ahead with or without kids

TuttiFrutti · 09/11/2023 08:45

He already has the situation he wants right now: you living with him, without him having to commit. So of course he won't want to change anything. He is stringing you along.

artattack1 · 09/11/2023 08:45

Thanks for your replies. I'm 33 currently but mean I'll be approaching mid 30s soon. He's had the job issues since I've been with him. I do understand, but there are many jobs out there which are salaried, full time etc.

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Shalopea · 09/11/2023 08:45

I think he’s making excuses and you don’t have time to wait around for the “perfect” time. It’s now or never. Ultimatum time. Either you set a date for a small wedding within 3-6 months and TTC immediately afterwards, or it’s over now and look for someone else who is serious about marriage and kids. Time is short fertility wise. Don’t waste any more with this guy.

RebekaTuwin · 09/11/2023 08:46

He can sort his life out while married and having children as that is the reality for the vast majority of people.

It isn’t really on him alone to have the income to support children- what is your income like? Any reason why you cannot return to full time work shortly after childbirth?

He is either making excuses to mask his commitment phobia or he is genuinely a worry wart. See what you can do to address his worries. If he keeps coming up with new worries, then he is afraid of marriage and raising children.

mummylove24 · 09/11/2023 08:47

Please @artattack1 leave now, while you can. Run!!

I'm 42 pregnant with my first baby (by a miracle) because of this exact same situation, he wasted years and years of my life, married another girl 6 months after we broke up. I wish I had someone to tell me to get out while I could.

If a man wants to marry you and settle with you he will just do it, no need to cajole him or ultimatum him. Sorry 💖

GCAcademic · 09/11/2023 08:49

artattack1 · 09/11/2023 08:39

He said he wants to sort his life out first and stop working dead end jobs. I don't know what to think or do.

But he's doing nothing about that, is he?

Actions speak louder than words.

artattack1 · 09/11/2023 08:52

I earn a bit more than him and have a good maternity package. I do intend to return to work full time so we'd have 2 salaries. I just need to be firm.. maybe he said all that because he doesn't want to lose me. I just need to think.

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Nothanksthanksanyway · 09/11/2023 08:53

artattack1 · 09/11/2023 08:52

I earn a bit more than him and have a good maternity package. I do intend to return to work full time so we'd have 2 salaries. I just need to be firm.. maybe he said all that because he doesn't want to lose me. I just need to think.

Please don’t have a baby with this person who clearly isn’t bothered about you. You’ll find someone better I’m sure, who is proactive and puts your feelings and needs first.

MonsteraMama · 09/11/2023 08:56

He's future faking. If he wanted to he would.

Friend of mine was in a similar situation with her partner and he said "ok let's go for it, we can manage". They got engaged, married at registry within 6 months, and started trying for a baby - while he was still on min wage. He worked his arse off trawling for jobs, and landed a decent one the day after they announced they were 12 weeks.

She's just had her little boy 3 months ago, and if anything dad's glowing more than her! When they want it they'll move the earth for it. When they don't... They'll tell you they want everything to be "perfect" first and then hope your eggs run out before their excuses.

Whealspeed · 09/11/2023 08:58

Bear in mind that that if he is min wage and you do have a baby he could easily end up as a SAHD by default and then if you eventually split up he could end up as the resident parent.

Find someone who wants to commit to you.

JustAMinutePleass · 09/11/2023 08:59

In my opinion if a man’s serious about marrying you, he’ll discuss it seriously within a year and you’ll be married by two. Don’t waste your time with him.

AnneLovesGilbert · 09/11/2023 09:01

What they said. He’s a coaster. You’re not.

HelenTudorFisk · 09/11/2023 09:01

People do what works for them. So, your partner might talk about ‘sorting his life’ but the reason he’s then done precisely fuck all to change anything is because the set up he has now, is working for him.
You are being future faked, OP. Cut and run before he’s burned through all your fertile years.

Crayfishforyou · 09/11/2023 09:07

Os he actually doing anything about getting a creative job. I work in the arts, nobody is paid very much at all. It’s something we just have to accept.
Realistically what job does he want? What on average, dies it pay? And how would he make it happen?
Because trundling along and hoping it will fall into his lap one day is not going to happen.
I have had to hustle hustle hustle. And I’m still not where I want to be, but I’m on the tight track.
He is stringing your wants and his dreams along.

Shortpoet · 09/11/2023 09:10

Does he have an updated CV?
Has he applied for any jobs in the last month?

If the answer to those questions is no, what does he say if you point that out?
A better paid job for him isn’t going to fall from the sky.

I’d have the conversation that if the barrier in his mind is a better paid job and if he isn’t actively seeking one, then he doesn’t mean what he says about wanting marriage, because if that was the only barrier to something he really wanted he would do something about it.

Rjahdhdvd · 09/11/2023 09:12

Leave and find someone else. He may never be ready and you don’t have the time to wait. There’s rarely a “good” time to have a baby; we could have waited to be in a better financial situation but I did not want to and knew we could manage without getting into debt even if it was a bit tight