To be sad at the lack of compassion

[Gifgirl]

Reading through some threads makes me so sad (and mad) sometimes.

Excluding teenagers from homes due to MH conditions, being cross about flags on stickers cos they are rainbows, encouraging your kids to not date someone cos they have a disability.. etc etc.

Acceptance and kindness is a wonderful thing and would make the world a much lovelier place.

Please encourage your kids to accept and include people even if they are different to you. We won't move on until this happens.

I think you’re being a bit misleading in your OP. The rainbow stickers post you were referring to specifically had a trans pride flag in. The poster there wanted to know if that was acceptable in a kids sticker pack.
Not quite just outraged at a rainbow in a pack of stickers

I agree, difference makes the world a better place, and we should make sure there is space and love for everyone. Unfortunately for me, rainbow flags are code for ‘men are allowed in the women’s changing room’ and due to previous trauma, and frankly being terrified, that means I can’t go in. Is there room for people like me in an ‘inclusive’ world?

Well, if we could all accept we don't all believe the same things that would be grand. That's not how things are at the moment, though, and people questioning things isn't a "lack of compassion" is it?

I see where you are coming from but it's some of the replies that I am referring to in threads, not necessarily the titles.

Though the rainbow title is the perfect example.

Oh lord
the #bekind brigade will be along soon

Oh, ignored! 😢

@Gifgirl the ‘kindness and compassion’ doesn't extend to me then? I guess I’m just much too inconvenient, with my trauma-induced (by a man) MH issues and single-sex needs

Oh goodie. It’s today’s #bekind lecture.

I prefer ‘be fair’ to ‘be kind’, thanks, and that doesn’t include men in women’s spaces, competitions etc.

Probably best to give someone a chance to reply to a post before accusing them of ignoring you.

Really sorry to hear of your traumas. I am in the same position; I was sexually and physically abused by my Dad and my cousin.

Whilst I COMPLETELY agree that we need to find a solution regarding shared spaces, I cannot get on board with trans hate. They are people too. And not all of them are out to hurt us.

And the irony is, there are sadly far more people in this world like you than the special “ladies” (men) with feels.

fucks me right off.

sending 💐

Completely with you, OP.
As a mother of a trans child, I honestly despair at some of these comments.
I just tell my son to steer clear of all the narrow minded, pearl clutching arseholes and go about his life as if they don't matter, because they don't.

His 4 year old sibling is more accepting and tolerant than some fully grown adults I've met.
It's a sad world.

I'm going to start a Kumbaya Party to contest the next election. I reckon we'll win by a landslide.

Um, I’d just like to have access to single-sex changing rooms - why is that ‘trans hate’?

So everyone has been polite and reasonable
but then someone has to call us "narrow minded arseholes"
oh the irony

No such thing as a trans child. There’s a boy or girl who is gender non confirming, which is awesome. But Trans is a pathway that encourages medicalisation and surgery to kids who just don’t want to align themselves to gender stereotypes (and seeing through gender stereotypes is great, I shall say again). Adults have a lot to answer for in reframing non conforming kids as kids who need to deny their own bodies.

TerfTalking, thank you for your understanding and compassion

Hear hear.

What do you mean 'ignored'?

The OP was replying to someone who posted before you that's all.

Manadou · Today 10:50
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I'm going to start a Kumbaya Party to contest the next election. I reckon we'll win by a landslide”

Why the need to be so nasty?

threads Like this are bollocks
its telling women "be quiet" "be nice"
"don't rock the boat"
fuck that
we need to be anything but that

Agree with you OP. There is a lot of transphobia on mumsnet. Fortunately most younger women are much more accepting of diversity - many would not join mumsnet because of its tolerance of transphobia.

Gosh, #bekind maybe, not ageist and intolerant of other people.

The thing is just because you aren't happy with something about yourself doesn't mean you can always change it by considering yourself something else.
I find it hard to adult some days but I don't expect to identify as a child and excuse myself from adult responsibilities, nor get changed in with children
or compete against them in sport.
I wish I was born into a taller body and was prettier and smarter and born into a wealthy family but as much as I can dream I am who I am.

And single sex toilets, single sex prisons, etc - although I hope to not ever have to make use of the any prisons myself..

I have a lot of empathy for people who think they were, or who definitely were, born into the wrong body. But I expect them to have complained about it since they were a child, or at least when they entered puberty. I also expect them to have visited their GP about it, and for them to have been referred to specialists for counselling (to make sure they are not confused about their identity for other reasons, and to discuss together the best way for them to proceed), and for when they are old enough to start taking the appropriate hormone replacements.

I do not, and cannot, and don't even want to, just accept that anyone can say they identify as the opposite sex to the one they appear to have been born into, and that they then have to suddenly be accepted into the opposite sex's changing rooms etc.

Eugh

Bekind

Facebook is that way op