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To wonder how Vernon Kay got away with it?

158 replies

JoanThursday1972 · 07/11/2023 10:03

"In 2010, Kay was forced to apologise to his wife after it was revealed in the British press that he had been sending sexually explicit text and social media messages to model Rhian Sugden every day for four months. Later on, he admitted to sending similar messages to "four or five" other women at the same time." (From Wikipedia).

I was just wondering about it as I have him on the radio working at home today.

We would all have been telling Tess to LTB on here. I actually don't think he did anything physical with any of them, but I wouldn't have stayed with him.

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WickedSerious · 07/11/2023 13:30

Angrycat2768 · 07/11/2023 13:03

I suspect Tess does, and always has, made much more money than him.

Possibly,I know jack shit about either of them.

SurprisedWithAHorse · 07/11/2023 13:33

jazzyfips · 07/11/2023 13:17

Tess is as much of a dick as him and the marriage is one of convenience.

Why is she a dick?

BotterMon · 07/11/2023 13:38

And this affects you how?

Not sure why you're bringing up shit that happened 13 years ago that his wife would probably prefer to leave where it is. Her husband, her choice (and no I'm not Tess but wish I had her legs!)

Angrycat2768 · 07/11/2023 13:42

WickedSerious · 07/11/2023 13:30

Possibly,I know jack shit about either of them.

Me neither, but she was a fairly successful model, and has been co host of a Prime Time Saturday night show since it started. He does some radio and TV presenting. I know he was a model too but not sure for how long.

Idontgiveashitanymore · 07/11/2023 13:45

Yes he’s a twat but why drag it up again after all this time ?is Rhian desperate for attention again ?

BIossomtoes · 07/11/2023 13:49

I thought about how he got away with persuading his wife that what he did wasn't that bad after all.

Why would he need to do that? It was a few texts, I wouldn’t need to be persuaded not to throw my marriage away for such a trivial reason.

Cas112 · 07/11/2023 13:56

This is such old news, it was quite big at the time. He got a lot of flack, as did Rhian, Tess chose to stay

Why is this a topic of conversation now 😂

JoanThursday1972 · 07/11/2023 14:03

Cas112 · 07/11/2023 13:56

This is such old news, it was quite big at the time. He got a lot of flack, as did Rhian, Tess chose to stay

Why is this a topic of conversation now 😂

@Cas112 I stated in the very first post why it is a topic of conversation now 😂

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FSTraining · 07/11/2023 14:04

Rjahdhdvd · 07/11/2023 10:08

I saw a programme (might have been about page 3) where the woman he messaged was on there saying that when it came out she lost her job etc and he lost nothing.
She said it was messages more along the lines of how nice she looked rather than explicit but who knows.
Im sure there was a furore at the time but it passed and it’s the same for every celebrity who cheats (note David beckham, Wayne Rooney, list goes on)

I always thought Rooney using prostitutes would torpedo any chance of a post-playing career but somehow there he is managing Birmingham City.

Ilikeadrink14 · 07/11/2023 14:05

Bet you'd think differently if it happened to you!!

JoanThursday1972 · 07/11/2023 14:08

Ilikeadrink14 · 07/11/2023 14:05

Bet you'd think differently if it happened to you!!

Which post is this in reply to?

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quivers · 07/11/2023 14:09

It is quite literally none of our business.

AirFryerFrequentFlyer · 07/11/2023 14:31

Applebottomjeenz · 07/11/2023 11:52

This is nothing to do with you. Why do any of you care? Have you nothing going on in your actual lives?

Well you're here too, posting just like the rest of us. Confused

Angrycat2768 · 07/11/2023 17:29

FSTraining · 07/11/2023 14:04

I always thought Rooney using prostitutes would torpedo any chance of a post-playing career but somehow there he is managing Birmingham City.

Blimey if they stopped footballers from having post playing careers because they were unfaithful/used prostitutes/ had threesomes etc etc etc there would be no one to manage any teams who has any football experience! That probably goes for most people in showbiz too. You'd be hard pressed to find unfaithful. If I married a footballer or an actor I think I'd just have to accept it and say ' bring any diseases home and you're out' because it would be more surprising if they didn't cheat.

LadyBird1973 · 07/11/2023 17:48

Men get away with this because the bar for male behaviour is set very low. And women (like CR and TD, who seem decent and hardworking ) are automatically seen as money grabbers, as this thread has illustrated! Even when a woman's behaviour is beyond reproach, some dick on the internet will find fault. Whereas men always have excuses made for their actions.

So they probably conclude that it's easier to forgive and forget, than to go through the trauma of divorce and shared custody of children, dealing with potential step parents etc.

Angrycat2768 · 07/11/2023 18:35

LadyBird1973 · 07/11/2023 17:48

Men get away with this because the bar for male behaviour is set very low. And women (like CR and TD, who seem decent and hardworking ) are automatically seen as money grabbers, as this thread has illustrated! Even when a woman's behaviour is beyond reproach, some dick on the internet will find fault. Whereas men always have excuses made for their actions.

So they probably conclude that it's easier to forgive and forget, than to go through the trauma of divorce and shared custody of children, dealing with potential step parents etc.

To be fair to Vernon Kay texting a glamour model some non salacious messages is not really I the same league as getting steaming drunk and shagging prostitutes on a regular basis. As PP said, is it worth not seeing your children for 50% of the time and not knowing who they are with for the sake of a one off stupid thing? I do think thete is a double standard when it comes to the single women eho have affairs with these celebs. Sienna Miller got far more stick than Balthazar Getty for having an affair with him, and the same with Lily James and Dominic West. Her career doesn't seem as prolific as it was, yet West is there in The Crown sleazing away as that other famous cheater Prince Charles.

FSTraining · 07/11/2023 21:05

Angrycat2768 · 07/11/2023 17:29

Blimey if they stopped footballers from having post playing careers because they were unfaithful/used prostitutes/ had threesomes etc etc etc there would be no one to manage any teams who has any football experience! That probably goes for most people in showbiz too. You'd be hard pressed to find unfaithful. If I married a footballer or an actor I think I'd just have to accept it and say ' bring any diseases home and you're out' because it would be more surprising if they didn't cheat.

Unfaithful yes, but prostitutes?

Angrycat2768 · 07/11/2023 21:12

FSTraining · 07/11/2023 21:05

Unfaithful yes, but prostitutes?

Yes that would be a line drawn for me too. CR has clearly told herself that she can live with it.

StillWantingADog · 07/11/2023 21:13

TheChristmasPig · 07/11/2023 10:07

Is Wikipedia a reliable source of info?

Not always but I definitely recall the story in the press many years ago

Hellenabe · 07/11/2023 22:25

@Angrycat2768 I'd say Lily James' career has soared since the affair. Previously she was the good girl in Downton Abbey then Cinderella. Now she seems so have more star power. It really made me think any press is good press for these people.

LittleMooli · 07/11/2023 22:27

I imagine the relationship worked for them. I like to think she made her being able to pursue any career choice she wanted while he took a back seat if required part of any agreement.

Angrycat2768 · 07/11/2023 22:59

Hellenabe · 07/11/2023 22:25

@Angrycat2768 I'd say Lily James' career has soared since the affair. Previously she was the good girl in Downton Abbey then Cinderella. Now she seems so have more star power. It really made me think any press is good press for these people.

Has it? I remember a time when she was I every bloody film I watched to the point I was sick of seeing her, but I've not seen her in anything for a while. Maybe she's not in anything I want to watch anymore.

BIossomtoes · 07/11/2023 23:03

She’s in three films released this year. She’s a bloody good actor who’s entitled to a private life without being judged for it.

Angrycat2768 · 07/11/2023 23:07

BIossomtoes · 07/11/2023 23:03

She’s in three films released this year. She’s a bloody good actor who’s entitled to a private life without being judged for it.

Wow she has literally dropped completely off my radar! Well I'm glad she hadn't been punished for her affair though and her career is still going strong.

Ger1atricMillennial · 07/11/2023 23:47

I suppose it depends on what Tess was actually doing i.e. if her job to have the perfect marriage or influence was directly related to passing judgement or advising people on how to act in marriages then it would be a problem.
As she is just a popular presenter on television on shows that have nothing to do with her personal - how she manages her personal affairs is her business.

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