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Just fucking sick of dogs

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crazyaginglady · 03/11/2023 19:00

Sorry but I am. I was cycling home from
picking up DS from school with him on the back and a dog came running up beside
me snarling and snapping at my feet on the pedals. I nearly bloody went over but managed to keep my balance and get past it (electric bike). Owner called an apology and I just rode on as it was still off the lead and I was worried for DS.

This is a national cycling path and much used school route so there are always bikes and children 8-9 and 3-4.

A sausage dog decided to bolt towards my 2 year old last month in the park for no apparent reason and I had to scoop him
up to avoid contact.

And don’t get me started in the ‘oh he’s just being friendly’. I don’t want your fucking dog jumping on me or my children or scaring my kids when we are just going about our day.

They should ALL be on leads unless they are in a dog park/field.

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Goodornot · 04/11/2023 10:38

XelaM · 04/11/2023 10:35

That's a shame as both (now adult) dog and my now teen are still best buddies and neither have any issues 🤷‍♀️ Dogs make a house a home.

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That's rubbish. My house is a home. It isn't incomplete without a dog. I don't want an animal licking my food or shitting for me to clean up. We just differ and you're one of those who can't understand why anyone wouldn't want a dog. I don't thanks.

Drdoomish · 04/11/2023 10:38

No @XelaM love between humans make a house a home.

A dog may or may not be part of that home.

notatthisage · 04/11/2023 10:55

XelaM · 04/11/2023 08:49

People who hate dogs and teach their kids to be fearful are usually highly strung unpleasant people. No wonder so many kids suffer with anxiety and so many mental health issues with crazy parents like that.

I come across countless dogs every day, yet somehow manage to never encounter any of the millions of issues Mumsnetters seem to face on a daily basis. 🤷‍♀️

Yawn. What ridiculous nonsense.

I like dogs but they were a real pain in the arse when my kids were little. We had lots of awful encounters with dogs growling, snapping and chasing the kids, which was terrifying for them. My eldest was actually bitten by a dog who chased him. Many of the attitudes of the owners of these dogs was awful. If you have dogs, you will be one those, based on this post. I think there must be something about small children that sets some dogs off. Because I don’t have these encounters now.the kids are older. Regardless, if your dog cannot behave around children, it needs to be on a lead.

JFT · 04/11/2023 10:56

Goodornot · 04/11/2023 10:31

That's completely false. I don't have a dog and never have.

This isn't Wuhan. We weren't locked up. We were allowed out to walk once a day. But the reality is who checked? Who knew if it was twice or cared?

I did a long bike ride and a walk in the evening.

It's bollocks to say you needed a dog to be allowed to leave the house.

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What are you talking about?

I never said no one was allowed to leave their home UNLESS they had a dog

At the beginning of lockdown people were asked not to leave their homes with the exception of one hour for exercise. This was written in a temporary act of Law (that was legislated for two years in March 2020). Some people believed that we may be locked in our homes for two years. I was part of an anti-lockdown campaign (as I thought lockdown was inhumane) and the levels of ideas and suspicions people had were frankly insane.

Also in the Coronavirus Emergency Legislation Act 2020 that people with dogs must be permitted to go outside to exercise their dogs. So people who were aware quickly picked up on the idea that as long as you had a dog the police couldn't criticise you for being outside. And that idea spread like wildfire. Along with the idea of an 'emotional support dog'.

XelaM · 04/11/2023 10:58

JFT · 04/11/2023 10:26

Somewhere up thread someone asked how come so many people suddenly got dogs in the last few years. Well I can answer this quite full I think:

During lockdown when we weren't even allowed out of our homes, one exception was to walk a dog. Some people got dogs as an alibi for being out the house and also to ensure being able to go out in future if further strict lockdowns were imposed;

Also during lockdown some people got dogs for company to help with their isolation;

Also during lockdown and a trend in general, some households flout their housing rules to get dogs to breed so they can make money from the pups. I think this was connected to lockdown insofar as some people wanted to think of other forms of income in the case of a financial crisis;

Some people who breed dogs in estates pressurise neighbours (esp leaning on their kids) to buy a dog. Some people who breed dogs in estates end up not being able to sell them and give them away (to neighbour's kids). They encourage the idea that you can always breed a couple of litters. Before you know it, it's an escalating issue.

The worst reason IMO - there is a false rumour that is literally not true that there is now something in law classified as an 'emotional support dog'. There is no such thing as an 'emotional support dog' but all the people on my estate who got dogs also got their GPs, social workers, kids teachers, etc to say their child would benefit from having a dog. This has no medical standing, it has no standing in law. Also people were a bit too keen to pathologise their child and say my child's got special needs. Just to cover the fact they actually broke their tenancy agreement.

Adults with any form of health problem also did the same.

In order to prop up their own bending of the rules and deception, the people in my estate who got dogs encouraged other households to get dogs by sharing the above false information. I guess people who know they're doing wrong prefer a whole crowd of people also doing wrong alongside them. This mean even more people got dogs.

The only grounds anyone is allowed a dog in the estate I live is if it's a legal assistance dog (all of which are trained by specialist organisations). The thing that annoys me the worst out of all of this is that the selfish, thoughtless, people have made it really difficult for an actual guide dog to do it's job in our buildings.

Now of course everyone is bored of their dogs, they can't get vets, in my area we aren't covered by any of the low cost charities because our gentrified whole post code is classified as 'business district' and deliberately exempted by the charities. They know our buildings are zero pet policy and nobody has a letter of permission for their dog. The residents know they're not supposed to have a dog so they send the kids out after dark to toilet them in the public gardens. We only had weird little man made curated areas of plants and they send them in the bushes to toilet and don't pick up the poo but they're on CCTV, overlooked by thousands of flats, and we have private security on foot. On sunny days people bring their toddlers to the so called 'safe, secure, and clean' little fancy gardens and they run around and roll in the gardens. It makes me feel icky.

The dogs barely see daylight and are not socialised or normally behaved. It's heartbreaking and it all came down to one thing: SELFISHNESS I don't think the dogs are even wanted any more.

Right... 😂 Your post sounds a bit unhinged.

Don't you think the main reason that people got dogs in lockdown was because their working patterns changed so that they could work from home and therefore their lifestyle now allowed a dog? And I don't know anyone who is bored of their dog or doesn't walk it (or pay for a dog walker). Maybe I don't associate in the same circles as most Mumsnetters 🤷‍♀️

XelaM · 04/11/2023 11:02

notatthisage · 04/11/2023 10:55

Yawn. What ridiculous nonsense.

I like dogs but they were a real pain in the arse when my kids were little. We had lots of awful encounters with dogs growling, snapping and chasing the kids, which was terrifying for them. My eldest was actually bitten by a dog who chased him. Many of the attitudes of the owners of these dogs was awful. If you have dogs, you will be one those, based on this post. I think there must be something about small children that sets some dogs off. Because I don’t have these encounters now.the kids are older. Regardless, if your dog cannot behave around children, it needs to be on a lead.

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My dog can behave very well around children, as he's grown up with children and is an absolute sweetheart. As I said up thread, kids in the park chase HIM because they want to pet him not the other way around. And parents do nothing about it. Thankfully, he is a very tolerant little dog.

Stressedafff · 04/11/2023 11:04

Why is it such an issue when people say they don’t like dogs?

oakleaffy · 04/11/2023 11:05

Finbad · 04/11/2023 06:33

I agree OP
Dog shit everywhere, dogs on seats in restaurants/pubs, no re call from owners. Professional dog walkers with 8-10 dogs dogs with no control over the pack taking over the parks.

Bloody “professional “ dog walkers can be an absolute menace.
Three women were walking a large pack of off lead dogs.

One nasty dog saw a passive small dog and decided to go for it and the others joined in.
The pack chased the little dog towards a road, the idiot walkers had zero control.

These wankers and their “ Pack walks”
They definitely aren’t “ Leader of the pack”

It was idiot “professional “ walkers who allowed a huge dog to knock our elderly mum over.

It can be alarming to see a pack of dogs clearly out of control in a public place.

someone trusted one of these idiots to walk their sweet little dog and the dog lost a leg running across a road and getting hit by a car on his first walk ( and last walk) with them.

User0000009 · 04/11/2023 11:05

Stressedafff · 04/11/2023 11:04

Why is it such an issue when people say they don’t like dogs?

Because you MUST like them

JFT · 04/11/2023 11:07

XelaM · 04/11/2023 10:58

Right... 😂 Your post sounds a bit unhinged.

Don't you think the main reason that people got dogs in lockdown was because their working patterns changed so that they could work from home and therefore their lifestyle now allowed a dog? And I don't know anyone who is bored of their dog or doesn't walk it (or pay for a dog walker). Maybe I don't associate in the same circles as most Mumsnetters 🤷‍♀️

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Really? Unhinged? I'm speaking to the reasons that the people I know of in the large high density estate I live in broke their tenancy agreements to get a dog during lockdown.

You are totally correct on your added point - many people who were suddenly WFH also got dogs, although not so many as they tend to be professionals who comprehend what 'rules' are. In my estate not one single person is allowed a dog so yeah the people who did get one are already a bit unhinged, their thinking is a bit unhinged and a lot selfish.

I don't know about you but personally I wouldn't risk the safety of the roof over my head and my family's head by blatantly breaching my tenancy agreement just to get a dog (in an estate fully covered by CCTV).

Deathwillbebutapause · 04/11/2023 11:08

Lol! Tragic types posting all this anti-dog spew on a Friday night.

I remember when Friday nights were all centre parcs and bumsex around here ...

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 04/11/2023 11:10

Licking food with dogs is not safe. Sorry if that makes me look "unhinged " to dog owners.

www.healthline.com/health/can-dogs-get-sick-from-humans

Messyhair321 · 04/11/2023 11:10

Shortkiwi · 04/11/2023 00:09

I’m terrified of dogs. I never grew up with pets, my brother was bitten by a dog outside our house when we were young and I was badly bitten in the street by an Alsatian when I was 18. I live within metres of a beach where dogs are allowed to roam and I’m nervous about walking on it. I’ve just been to Australia and was so relieved to go on some beaches where dogs are banned. Our local council proposed a ban for a section of beach to be dog free in Summer but it was quickly thrown out. I don’t want to offend dog owners and I have friends with dogs that I have taken time to get used to and I’m now fine with - but I hate being made to feel odd because I don’t like dogs.

I do sympathise with you having that trauma. I don't think you are saying you don't like all dogs, but you don't like aggressive dogs that bite.
Which is totally understandable by the way.

Your fear is akin to being attacked by a person & being frightened of certain people that remind you of that person, or areas where it happened etc, rather than saying that after this attack you don't like all people, if that makes sense.

My dog was attacked by 2 dogs when I was walking alone with her when I was a child, I was frightened of doberman dogs for a long time but it didn't shadow my relationship with my dog or other dogs, I was just more wary of those particular dogs. After meeting a few I realise it was really the owner of the dog, who allowed them to run & attack, which was made worse because she never stopped to apologise or address the incident.

JFT · 04/11/2023 11:10

I would like 'dog parks' and 'pet friendly housing estates' so that all the people who got dogs can live alongside one another and listen to each other's dogs bark and wade through one another's dog shit and leave the rest of us alone.

Of course they themselves wouldn't want to live like that. Antisocial people rely on the vast majority of people around them not being antisocial so they can have a decent standard of living. It feels very unfair.

I'm speaking as to high density housing here, high rise flats, not the countryside or people who've got decent sized gardens etc.

User0000009 · 04/11/2023 11:10

Finbad · 04/11/2023 06:33

I agree OP
Dog shit everywhere, dogs on seats in restaurants/pubs, no re call from owners. Professional dog walkers with 8-10 dogs dogs with no control over the pack taking over the parks.

Woman in the pub chucking food on the floor for the dog that was with them and everyone oooing and aaahing. I found it utterly abhorrent. That’s ok but can’t smoke in pubs can you. All wrong.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 04/11/2023 11:11

That said, there are some health benefits of sharing space with pets, not not scaring food together!

Deathwillbebutapause · 04/11/2023 11:11

Why would you voluntarily live somewhere where not only were your living arrangements prescribed by faceless controllers but your every move was monitored by CCTV? And crow about it as though it were a good and normal thing? And jeer at others who refused to live under that sick Orwellian yoke? @JFT

User0000009 · 04/11/2023 11:11

JFT · 04/11/2023 11:10

I would like 'dog parks' and 'pet friendly housing estates' so that all the people who got dogs can live alongside one another and listen to each other's dogs bark and wade through one another's dog shit and leave the rest of us alone.

Of course they themselves wouldn't want to live like that. Antisocial people rely on the vast majority of people around them not being antisocial so they can have a decent standard of living. It feels very unfair.

I'm speaking as to high density housing here, high rise flats, not the countryside or people who've got decent sized gardens etc.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Messyhair321 · 04/11/2023 11:13

Really not sure what's going on here. You all should have grown up in the 70's when no-one had to pick shit up & you were lucky not to step in it whenever you went out.

User0000009 · 04/11/2023 11:14

Yeh. White dog shit

Missingmyusername · 04/11/2023 11:15

@Pinkpinkpink15 I asked the child to stop more than once. I would have literally had to pick the child up- I’m pretty sure that would be frowned upon and the parents would’ve been annoyed. I control my dog and my child. End of.
@JFT perhaps we can have those estates for those who have children too lol
@User0000009 You can’t smoke in a pub because it causes cancer. Someone throwing food on the floor doesn’t do that. Look away lol
a toddler would also throw food on the floor. 🤣

Not sure where you all live that dogs cause so many issues.🙈

User0000009 · 04/11/2023 11:17

Missingmyusername · 04/11/2023 11:15

@Pinkpinkpink15 I asked the child to stop more than once. I would have literally had to pick the child up- I’m pretty sure that would be frowned upon and the parents would’ve been annoyed. I control my dog and my child. End of.
@JFT perhaps we can have those estates for those who have children too lol
@User0000009 You can’t smoke in a pub because it causes cancer. Someone throwing food on the floor doesn’t do that. Look away lol
a toddler would also throw food on the floor. 🤣

Not sure where you all live that dogs cause so many issues.🙈

It was absolutely disgusting. A dog is not a child. Kids shouldn’t be in pubs either but that’s another argument for another day

EasternStandard · 04/11/2023 11:17

Agree with majority yanbu

Some dogs I don’t mind so much but they got annoying when dd couldn’t just run around in a park without dogs approaching and bounding at her

JFT · 04/11/2023 11:17

Deathwillbebutapause · 04/11/2023 11:11

Why would you voluntarily live somewhere where not only were your living arrangements prescribed by faceless controllers but your every move was monitored by CCTV? And crow about it as though it were a good and normal thing? And jeer at others who refused to live under that sick Orwellian yoke? @JFT

This thread is about ASB dogs, not my choice of home.

As it goes, it's called my social housing tenancy. I have disabilities and was housed originally by the local authority when I was homeless. I have a fantastic new build disability accessible flat in the middle of an amazing city centre. It comes with rules attached. If I decide I don't want to follow the rules, or I decide I don't like the deal I've got, I'll move or swap my flat.

I appreciate my neighbours think getting dogs was some supreme act of bending the rules and being creative during lockdown but really it was just selfish and ultimately an abuse of the dog. I feel sorry for all the dogs involved.

JFT · 04/11/2023 11:20

Missingmyusername · 04/11/2023 11:15

@Pinkpinkpink15 I asked the child to stop more than once. I would have literally had to pick the child up- I’m pretty sure that would be frowned upon and the parents would’ve been annoyed. I control my dog and my child. End of.
@JFT perhaps we can have those estates for those who have children too lol
@User0000009 You can’t smoke in a pub because it causes cancer. Someone throwing food on the floor doesn’t do that. Look away lol
a toddler would also throw food on the floor. 🤣

Not sure where you all live that dogs cause so many issues.🙈

I personally don't have any issue with children whatsoever.
I'm not sure how objecting to my neighbours being ASB and having problematic dogs ties into whether people have children? It's a bit of a leap?

If there's people on this thread who also don't like children that would be a bit unreasonable IMO and they should start a different thread about whatever the problem is.

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