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To not want to help FIL after surgery?

390 replies

fluffyboos · 01/11/2023 16:51

I dont have the best relationship with my in laws due to their past behaviour towards me.
FIL is especially very sarcastic, offensive and irritating.

FIL has come out of hospital due to surgery on his prostate and will be on bed rest for at least 4 weeks.

My husband wants me to go round with a box of chocolates and a card and offer to help and perhaps try and make peace.

My main issue is that when my own father was diagnosed with prostate cancer at the height of the lockdown, my in laws offered me no support whatsoever.

In fact my FIL even shouted at me calling me lazy for no reason whatsoever, he actually made me cry, all this whilst I couldnt even see my dad whilst he was receiving treatment.

Despite this I still did the bulk of my in laws chores in lockdown and never received a thank you or any appreciation.

I work part time where my husband and his sisters both work full time so they are limited on time.

My MIL has arthritis and will struggle to look after him on her own.

I dont see why I should be expected to help just because I work part time.

In laws are not grateful people and I have told my husband that they cant be nasty and ungrateful but expect help of me.

I have refused to go round and it is causing massive tension in the house.
Surely my husband and his siblings should arrange help between them?

They arent even my parents.

I am all for helping people but not when they have been so disrespectful and nasty towards me.

My husband is now quite upset and not really talking.

Am I being nasty like my husband says?

OP posts:
Greenberg2 · 02/11/2023 08:20

ATerrorofLeftovers · 01/11/2023 17:01

You are absolutely not being unreasonable. If care is required over and above what MIL can manage, your husband and his sisters can take annual leave to help, or the family can pay for professional carers to visit.

Your in laws need to realise that’s they can’t expect to treat people like shit and then get that person skivvying for them.

Is the family from a culture where women are seen as lesser than men and responsible for all the shit work?

Tell DH he can try as much passive aggressive pressure as he likes. All he’ll do is damage his marriage. It’s not ever going to result in you acting as an unpaid carer for his ungrateful shit of a father.

Absolutely this.

LindaDawn · 02/11/2023 08:21

Don’t help your FIL.

DriftingDora · 02/11/2023 08:22

Well of course it's your job - if you're a woman that's what you should do!😆

What bloody cheek - tell him that what goes round, comes round and who made you his father's nurse? Reality check for your partner: if you choose to treat somebody with contempt and rudeness, then don't be too surprised if they do the same in return. Let the family sort out THEIR father.

Naunet · 02/11/2023 08:24

nopuppiesallowed · 01/11/2023 21:41

🤣😅🤣😂🤣Actually, it's because I have self respect that I'd aim to be the better person....

Running around and being a skivvy for men who are abusive to you, is not self respect mate.

MooFroo · 02/11/2023 08:28

Why are so many people on here just nasty?!!

OPs DH asked her to pop round with chocolate and ASK if they need help - that’s all.

It’s just basic human courtesy stuff and something any supportive partner would do for their other half. I’ve done stuff to make DH look good in front of his family and he’s done the same for me - both happy to do so.

I would just do it OP and not make a massive deal out of it

Noisynoisyconservatoryroof · 02/11/2023 08:29

Dear OP definitely stand your ground

as the wife of a 73 DH, (fit, golfer), we were horrified at what my DH has been through over the past four weeks after have a large bit of prostrate lasered, he was one of the few that had awful catheter problems. Been rushed back to hospital ward twice in middle of the night and been through some awful post op procedures. I am the lot younger wife and I’ve struggled with it tbh.

we saw the surgeon yesterday and he was well it is major surgery after all. Just because we haven’t cut you across your abdomen doesn’t mean it wasn’t major.

obviously there’s all sorts of levels to this surgery but I do think if your FIL is like my DH then he, and his wife, probably do need help, but not from you OP.

Naunet · 02/11/2023 08:30

MooFroo · 02/11/2023 08:28

Why are so many people on here just nasty?!!

OPs DH asked her to pop round with chocolate and ASK if they need help - that’s all.

It’s just basic human courtesy stuff and something any supportive partner would do for their other half. I’ve done stuff to make DH look good in front of his family and he’s done the same for me - both happy to do so.

I would just do it OP and not make a massive deal out of it

Why do you think it’s ok for her in-laws to have been so fucking nasty to her? Any comment on that at all, any acknowledgment that THEY created this situation?

Greenberg2 · 02/11/2023 08:31

MooFroo · 02/11/2023 08:28

Why are so many people on here just nasty?!!

OPs DH asked her to pop round with chocolate and ASK if they need help - that’s all.

It’s just basic human courtesy stuff and something any supportive partner would do for their other half. I’ve done stuff to make DH look good in front of his family and he’s done the same for me - both happy to do so.

I would just do it OP and not make a massive deal out of it

Did you read how unpleasant the ILs have been to OP? How she has helped out in the past, unlike the IL's own children, but been treated nastily back, with the FiL shouting at her and being abusive?

There's a difference between being a kind person and a doormat.

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 02/11/2023 08:37

You are not being unreasonable. You reap what you sow.
I helped my in laws where I could in their later years, but they were the nicest people to walk the earth and were always incredibly grateful.
My dsil did the bulk of it but I helped where I could.

Dentistlakes · 02/11/2023 08:43

YANBU. They are not your parents and given how they av e treated you in the past, I think you don’t owe them anything. Their own children need to step up. It’s irrelevant they work full time. They should take holiday or dependants leave.

Lilyt14 · 02/11/2023 08:43

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Maddy70 · 02/11/2023 08:44

I would support your husband. He's worried about his parents. It won't kill you to go and take a box of chocolates and see if there of anything you can do. You don't have to do anything huge but help you should.

I would do this for a neighbour ..these are your family. You don't have to particularly like them but I'm assuming you like your husband

Naunet · 02/11/2023 08:53

Maddy70 · 02/11/2023 08:44

I would support your husband. He's worried about his parents. It won't kill you to go and take a box of chocolates and see if there of anything you can do. You don't have to do anything huge but help you should.

I would do this for a neighbour ..these are your family. You don't have to particularly like them but I'm assuming you like your husband

Would you do it for a neighbour who had been utterly vile to you then?

Greenberg2 · 02/11/2023 08:56

Maddy70 · 02/11/2023 08:44

I would support your husband. He's worried about his parents. It won't kill you to go and take a box of chocolates and see if there of anything you can do. You don't have to do anything huge but help you should.

I would do this for a neighbour ..these are your family. You don't have to particularly like them but I'm assuming you like your husband

Nah. Support goes both ways. The DH should support his wife in not spending time or looking after people who have been abusive to her.

If he wants to take chocolates round, he can. It's not OP's family, it's his.

Emotionalsupportviper · 02/11/2023 08:57

Maddy70 · 02/11/2023 08:44

I would support your husband. He's worried about his parents. It won't kill you to go and take a box of chocolates and see if there of anything you can do. You don't have to do anything huge but help you should.

I would do this for a neighbour ..these are your family. You don't have to particularly like them but I'm assuming you like your husband

Take a 6 pack of kit-kits and ask if there's anything they need.

When they tell you, write it down and put it next t the phone so they don't miss anything out when they call their other BIL and SIL.

What goes around comes around, and they have treated you appallingly. You need to stand up for yourself - being a doormat isn't good for you, and it's a terrible example to set for your children.

Jl2014 · 02/11/2023 08:58

His parents, his responsibility. You reap what you sow. His parents don’t deserve your care. Leave them to it and don’t be bullied into it.

Theydontknowthatweknowthattheyknow · 02/11/2023 09:00

Maddy70 · 02/11/2023 08:44

I would support your husband. He's worried about his parents. It won't kill you to go and take a box of chocolates and see if there of anything you can do. You don't have to do anything huge but help you should.

I would do this for a neighbour ..these are your family. You don't have to particularly like them but I'm assuming you like your husband

If he was that worried he's get off his arse and help himself. In laws aren't family unless they choose to welcome you into their family. Otherwise they're just people your partner has the misfortune of being related to and are therefore 100% your partner's problem

nopuppiesallowed · 02/11/2023 09:02

I'm amazed at how many people think that tit for tat is an acceptable way to live. Modelling good behaviour for a few weeks to OP's father in law wouldn't make OP a skivvy or make her a weak person. To me, it makes her the stronger person if she CHOOSES to do something so difficult and unnatural. It might help to change his behaviour, but even if it doesn't - it shows that OP is a better person. (But 4 weeks bed rest can't be right).

ErniesGhostlyGoldTops · 02/11/2023 09:04

No. What goes around comes around. Anyone that would willingly go just to get further abuse is a doormat.

GCAcademic · 02/11/2023 09:04

Tell them you won't facilitate him doing something that will actively impede his recovery. Four weeks bedrest, indeed! When I had an abdominal hysterectomy I was make to get out of bed the following morning, and walk on stairs in the afternoon. It was made clear that keeping mobile was key to recovery and avoiding DVT.

Theydontknowthatweknowthattheyknow · 02/11/2023 09:06

nopuppiesallowed · 02/11/2023 09:02

I'm amazed at how many people think that tit for tat is an acceptable way to live. Modelling good behaviour for a few weeks to OP's father in law wouldn't make OP a skivvy or make her a weak person. To me, it makes her the stronger person if she CHOOSES to do something so difficult and unnatural. It might help to change his behaviour, but even if it doesn't - it shows that OP is a better person. (But 4 weeks bed rest can't be right).

It isn't tit for tat. It's refusing to have the literal piss taken out of you. There's a massive difference

Gerrataere · 02/11/2023 09:06

MooFroo · 02/11/2023 08:28

Why are so many people on here just nasty?!!

OPs DH asked her to pop round with chocolate and ASK if they need help - that’s all.

It’s just basic human courtesy stuff and something any supportive partner would do for their other half. I’ve done stuff to make DH look good in front of his family and he’s done the same for me - both happy to do so.

I would just do it OP and not make a massive deal out of it

And what if the in laws say ‘ah yes, here’s a list of things we need help with’. Can the the op say ‘oh no, I didn’t mean I was actually going to help. I can’t stand you 🙂’.

Yes partnerships work both ways. So the op should do exactly as much as her husband did to help when her own father was unwell.

GCAcademic · 02/11/2023 09:06

nopuppiesallowed · 02/11/2023 09:02

I'm amazed at how many people think that tit for tat is an acceptable way to live. Modelling good behaviour for a few weeks to OP's father in law wouldn't make OP a skivvy or make her a weak person. To me, it makes her the stronger person if she CHOOSES to do something so difficult and unnatural. It might help to change his behaviour, but even if it doesn't - it shows that OP is a better person. (But 4 weeks bed rest can't be right).

It's not going to change his behaviour in the slightest. It's clear from what the OP has written that her ILs don't appreciate anything she does. Why would they suddenly change their ingrained attitudes and behaviour now? There's no value in showing that you are a better person than a shit person, either.

justasking111 · 02/11/2023 09:07

OH had this operation he walked out of the hospital. The only issue was bladder control. He needed to be near a loo for a bit. I'd ask his surgery what help they can get and your local council if he's wanting help.

SinnerBoy · 02/11/2023 09:10

MooFroo · Today 08:28

^Why are so many people on here just nasty?!!
OPs DH asked her to pop round with chocolate and ASK if they need help - that’s all.I t’s just basic human courtesy stuff and something any supportive partner would do for their other half^

They have spent years being horrible to her and now they expect her to be all hearts and flowers. She's right to tell them to get stuffed.

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