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To think you just don't do this to a child

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Notanotherone8765 · 30/10/2023 15:25

My daughter's whole class go swimming every Friday. They get the bus to the swimming pool which is about 15 minutes away.
On Friday they were finishing up their swimming (it's the last thing of the day) and the teacher then said that everyone had to stay in the pool except my daughter. Turns out one of the girls was having her birthday party at the pool straight after. My daughter then had to get in the bus with the teacher and they came back to the school. I was there for the bus getting back and asked why my daughter was the only one on the bus and that's when the teacher told me. I understand not everyone is invited to everyone's party but would there not have been a better way of doing this? My daughter and I am very upset and I want to know if you think I'm being unreasonable. All opinions will be considered. Thank you
Oh and my daughter is 6 for context

OP posts:
yellowlane · 30/10/2023 19:23

@Rosiiee it sounds like there may have been 'school time' when the teacher wasn't present otherwise op's dd would've been late back to the school?

Whoopy · 30/10/2023 19:24

VickyEadieofThigh · 30/10/2023 15:37

I'm also unfamiliar with six year olds going from school as a class to swimming...

Actually this does happen. My dgs’ class (5 / 6 year olds) all went to the swimming pool for 4 consecutive afternoons last term. Dd was one of the Parent helpers. However, they all went from school on a bus and returned to school on a bus.

Guavafish1 · 30/10/2023 19:25

something similar like this happened to me as a child.

the memory is vivid now..... it really doesn't matter and there more social awkwardness and exclusive will come again.

not sure how the school could or would have done anything different.

TeaKitten · 30/10/2023 19:27

Guavafish1 · 30/10/2023 19:25

something similar like this happened to me as a child.

the memory is vivid now..... it really doesn't matter and there more social awkwardness and exclusive will come again.

not sure how the school could or would have done anything different.

The school could, and should have refused to facilitate the party and exclusion of 1 child by following their proper procedures. You might not be bothered by your experience but you aren’t everyone.

HoHoHoliday · 30/10/2023 19:27

It seems very hard to believe, for all of the reasons everyone has said, but also how would the kids enjoy that pool party when they've just had a swimming lesson - they would all be tired and cold!

If I were you OP I would be complaining to the school. Although you cannot control who is invited to someone else's birthday party out of school, in this instance the deliberate exclusion of one child (yours) was done by the school, by the teacher.
At very least I would have wanted to know about this arrangement in advance so I could have picked daughter up from school before swimming rather than have her excluded in front of everyone.
But I also agree with others, the school should not have been complicit in the party arrangements at all, they should have delivered all children back to parents as usual.

Redmat · 30/10/2023 19:28

Every teacher I know including myself would have refused to have any part in this. Wrong on so many levels.

ColleenDonaghy · 30/10/2023 19:29

halloweenhalfterm · 30/10/2023 19:08

I've messaged the OP and she's replied and she's really upset and she's not coming back to the thread.

So put that in your it's not halloween week or half term anywhere this week pipes and smoke it.

Disgraceful.

The UK is more than England you know. Our term dates are different. Our school systems are different. So is Scotland (I don't know about Wales, I'm sorry).

Some of you need to see further than the end of your English-centric noses.

Well said. I've been banging this drum for years, but this must be the worst example. A whole thread derailed and ruined because of a different labelling if a midterm break. Utter madness.

paulaparticles · 30/10/2023 19:30

I'm so sorry for you and your daughter. So it was a surprise party then or all swore to secrecy ? I cant believe it was allowed and I'm sure little one is traumatised and humiliated. This was intentional by the other mother and she needs to be shamed. This is the worst case of exclusion I've ever heard. Those who allowed this are bullies. Teachers included.

ColleenDonaghy · 30/10/2023 19:31

SoupDragon · 30/10/2023 19:11

I bet this is not the case.

Edited

Why? A week off at Halloween is as standard as two weeks at Christmas and Easter here. As someone said, it's a bank holiday in Ireland today (not NI 😢) and that's incorporated into the mid-term break.

Goldenbear · 30/10/2023 19:32

ColleenDonaghy · 30/10/2023 19:29

Well said. I've been banging this drum for years, but this must be the worst example. A whole thread derailed and ruined because of a different labelling if a midterm break. Utter madness.

But it is half term in some parts of England to so what does it have to do with that.

This sounds unbelievable because of their age, safeguarding, general procedures at school!

capabilityfrowns · 30/10/2023 19:35

I hope the op isnt chased off by troll hunting bullies

At least the poster who is a governor has been able to help via pm.

To those thinking it couldn't happen - it does . Schools facilitate exclusion as happened to my boy when he was 7 .

The class teacher and TA allowed the entire class to tear up the Xmas cards ds had taken in for the whole class .
When challenged on this I got a terse reply of "what do you expect us to do about it " . So I totally believed this could happen - this was a small state catholic school . There were many further examples of him being excluded socially before he found others to be friends with who were like him at secondary school.

paulaparticles · 30/10/2023 19:35

I'm Northern Ireland and yes our children are all off all week 🙄 to the people googling omg 😶

TeaKitten · 30/10/2023 19:35

ColleenDonaghy · 30/10/2023 19:31

Why? A week off at Halloween is as standard as two weeks at Christmas and Easter here. As someone said, it's a bank holiday in Ireland today (not NI 😢) and that's incorporated into the mid-term break.

Soup dragon has edited their post, it originally snipped that literally every Irish school wasn’t off this week as theirs wasn’t.

Im in England and we’re on half term too.

StarDolphins · 30/10/2023 19:37

capabilityfrowns · 30/10/2023 19:14

This place used to be a supportive safe space .
Now it's just full of absolutely atrocious people who can't think outside of their own reality.

It needs addressing.

I agree🥲

It’s the same ones every time. Just piling on, just here trying to catch people out & being disgusting in the process. There are still more lovely & helpful people on Mumsnet but there’s definitely a group of people I would call vile & unkind.

Op, if you’re still here reading (II doubt it & totally understandable) I hope you get answers from your email & you & your DD are ok.

SplendidUtterly · 30/10/2023 19:38

Can this really happen? I'm not saying it's a made up story and i also don't have primary school aged children so i am clueless about school policies but not returning an entire class back to school at the end of the day and just leaving them at a pool (all but this one child) seems really odd.

Also like someone else said above, how could the children enjoy a pool party when they have just had a lesson? They would surely be tired and cold by this point.

Lastchancechica · 30/10/2023 19:38

My god op this is just unthinkable. The reaction on here shows how shocking it is.

My child would not be in school tomorrow. I would lose all faith in their judgement and care.
It’s also a safe guarding issue to have one teacher with so many children.

This was not a mistake. The teacher was complicit in the exclusion/bullying. I would be escalating to the board of governors, HT and ofsted. I am so sorry for you and dd 💐

Changednamesforthis22 · 30/10/2023 19:40

This is awful, the only thing that would make it slightly understandable is if your daughter is not invited because she's been unkind to the birthday girl in the past? But even then the school shouldn't have facilitated the situation in this way.

ColleenDonaghy · 30/10/2023 19:41

TeaKitten · 30/10/2023 19:35

Soup dragon has edited their post, it originally snipped that literally every Irish school wasn’t off this week as theirs wasn’t.

Im in England and we’re on half term too.

Ah ok, fair enough. Perhaps it's unreasonable to say every school is off. I've certainly only ever known schools here to take their midterm this week but perhaps there's flexibility. Poor kids at school while everyone else is off for trick or treating!

AhhSlippedOnMahBeansRitaaa · 30/10/2023 19:42

🙋🏽‍♀️ also in England and on half term this week.

TeaKitten · 30/10/2023 19:42

ColleenDonaghy · 30/10/2023 19:41

Ah ok, fair enough. Perhaps it's unreasonable to say every school is off. I've certainly only ever known schools here to take their midterm this week but perhaps there's flexibility. Poor kids at school while everyone else is off for trick or treating!

It varies year to year where I am, sometimes we’re off over half term, others years not. Kids always get to trick or treat though

Wheredidyougonow · 30/10/2023 19:43

This was such a cruel thing to do to a child of only 6yo. I honestly would be heartbroken seeing her get off the empty bus. Op this unacceptable of the school. Wtf did they even allow this. Who leaves out one child unless they are a bully.

Lastchancechica · 30/10/2023 19:43

Changednamesforthis22 · 30/10/2023 19:40

This is awful, the only thing that would make it slightly understandable is if your daughter is not invited because she's been unkind to the birthday girl in the past? But even then the school shouldn't have facilitated the situation in this way.

That didn’t make it understandable or acceptable. The school should have said no. Kids are always unkind to each other at some point or another.

ColleenDonaghy · 30/10/2023 19:44

TeaKitten · 30/10/2023 19:42

It varies year to year where I am, sometimes we’re off over half term, others years not. Kids always get to trick or treat though

Ah yeah I know it varies in England, it really really doesn't IME here though. Not sure where @SoupDragon is based.

Lastchancechica · 30/10/2023 19:44

AhhSlippedOnMahBeansRitaaa · 30/10/2023 19:42

🙋🏽‍♀️ also in England and on half term this week.

We are in England and we were off school last week

capabilityfrowns · 30/10/2023 19:46

Why are people focusing on the half term break ?

Op wasn't asking for debate on half terms when they are or what they're referred to as ?

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