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Friends surrogacy

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Fatcat00 · 30/10/2023 08:01

Not a particularly close friend, but friend enough for me to be invited to social events etc. has recently told me she is having a baby due in April, I was shocked and congratulated her, she then says “surrogate… obviously”. I was a bit lost for words.

for context friend has recently divorced, they had been trying for a baby for 5 years, had IVF etc. I furthered the conversation and asked if it was her egg. Her response was “nah, I’m not bothered if it’s not my biological baby.. I just want a baby”. Followed by “I can’t be assed putting hormones into my body for the sake of my own egg”. I am just so shocked and speechless, I don’t agree with surrogacy for a number of reasons. Some of them being I don’t agree with the hiring of a woman’s body. I don’t agree with a baby being ripped away from its mother to suit someone else’s needs and the physical and psychological implications to both baby and mother as such. Why not just adopt?? If you don’t care for the child to be your biological anyway, why not adopt a baby who needs a parent?

it’s kind of made me look at her in a different light. She seemed very flippant about it (I’m aware this is just how she has came across I’m sure it’s a lengthy and draining process). She says she was put in touch with this woman through a friend who had used her.

essentially, this surrogate has just got pregnant for the purpose of handing over the baby to someone else in exchange for cash. I think I’d still be a bit 🤔 even if it was her own egg if truth be told.

I just can’t get my head around it. Am I being a bit of a bigot? Aibu to want to distance myself a bit? I don’t like feeling as though someone’s path to parenthood or happiness is “wrong” but it really doesn’t sit right with me and I’m not entirely sure why.

OP posts:
MrsMarzetti · 30/10/2023 14:15

Dinnerdate1 · 30/10/2023 08:10

I've looked into being a surrogate before. Wouldn't bother me to grow a baby for someone and then hand it to them. It's not as easy to just adopt.
And as long as both parties consent I don't see the harm.

The other human involved doesn't get to consent but then i suppose they don't matter as long the adult gets what they want.

TheKeatingFive · 30/10/2023 14:17

Wouldn't bother me to grow a baby for someone and then hand it to them.

I'm not sure how anyone could actually know that if they haven't experienced it.

bakewellbride · 30/10/2023 14:35

Yanbu. I have a friend who 'did surrogacy' and although we are still friends I can't see her in the same way ever again. Poor thing ripped deliberately from his real mum - a poor Ukrainian woman who wanted money. Also the baby hasn't had any vaccinations because 'he doesn't need them' 😡🤔

ArthurbellaScott · 30/10/2023 14:36

usernamealreadytaken · 30/10/2023 13:53

Won't the new mother have to adopt the surrogate baby anyway if they have no biological connection? AFAIK no woman can just legally give her baby to someone else to register as their own? Surely that's not a thing??

Current proposals being considered in the UK mean that a surrogate mother will sign over her rights to parenthood/motherhood before birth. I'm not quite sure on the legal ins and outs but it's a shocking suggestion.

Didimum · 30/10/2023 14:37

Sorry, what does this have to do with anything? This article is amount improving surrogacy legislation in developing countries or where legislation is poor.

Autumnvibes23 · 30/10/2023 14:40

Fatcat00 · 30/10/2023 08:16

Quite.

im also aware it’s not easy to “just adopt”. But it’s a process like anything else. And it doesn’t involve tearing a child away from its mother and going against every instinct the mother and child should have for the sake of cash.

Adoption does often involve 'tearing a child away from their mother'.

JanglingJack · 30/10/2023 14:41

Why are you friends with someone that talks like a younger version of Vicky Pollard?

Why are you slagging her off and demeaning the way she speaks over the choices she is making?

LittleMsTellTheTruth · 30/10/2023 15:00

Meh.
Forcing someone to be be alive is the cruelest thing a person can do to someone.
Can’t be bothered on how they forced them to be here.
It’s all bad.

shockwaze · 30/10/2023 15:07

LittleMsTellTheTruth · 30/10/2023 15:00

Meh.
Forcing someone to be be alive is the cruelest thing a person can do to someone.
Can’t be bothered on how they forced them to be here.
It’s all bad.

Have you got children?

Ssme92 · 30/10/2023 15:17

@LittleMsTellTheTruth 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so we will just let every living thing die out because no person or animal can ask to be born??? Madness! 🤣🤣

EarthlyNightshade · 30/10/2023 15:26

Vistada · 30/10/2023 09:34

"my body, my choice"...until its something you don't agree with.

The hypocrisy towards willing surrogates is mind blowing.

Have you been a surrogate?
I'd be interested to hear if you have.

If not, why not?

Stupidnighty · 30/10/2023 15:49

Didimum · 30/10/2023 14:37

Sorry, what does this have to do with anything? This article is amount improving surrogacy legislation in developing countries or where legislation is poor.

Nothing except that the WHO opinion on surrogacy.

I didn’t mean to quote/tag you!

Didimum · 30/10/2023 16:01

Stupidnighty · 30/10/2023 15:49

Nothing except that the WHO opinion on surrogacy.

I didn’t mean to quote/tag you!

Oh sorry, I mistook you for another poster too!

fuckmyuteruslining · 30/10/2023 16:46

As paid surrogacy is illegal in the uk I'd ring the police. This is not ok.
It doesn't matter what misery she's been through, you should not buy a child. Attempting to do so makes you unfit to be a parent.

fixies · 30/10/2023 17:45

Surely the surrogate/ egg will be different? It's very unlikely that you'd give away your own baby. Visit

MaggieBroonofGlebeSt · 30/10/2023 17:49

I've got relatives in their late 50s who used a surrogate in America. The whole thing made me feel a bit queasy, especially as the children (twins) will have both parents in their late 70s when they're 20.

Aqua20 · 30/10/2023 18:12

All of you 'perfect' women, you don't have a clue what it's like having fertility issues. YOU do not knowcwhat lengths you would have gone too.YOU do not know what it's like and YOU do not know how you would have coped!! It's easy to say, I wouldn't do this and that! So yes, all those opinions against using a surro is judgemental!!

shockwaze · 30/10/2023 18:22

'Surro' good god.

IhearyouClemFandango · 30/10/2023 18:51

Bugger that, using women is using women.

EarthlyNightshade · 30/10/2023 19:06

Aqua20 · 30/10/2023 18:12

All of you 'perfect' women, you don't have a clue what it's like having fertility issues. YOU do not knowcwhat lengths you would have gone too.YOU do not know what it's like and YOU do not know how you would have coped!! It's easy to say, I wouldn't do this and that! So yes, all those opinions against using a surro is judgemental!!

If you are having fertility issues and you are lucky enough to have a friend or family member who can act as a surrogate, I wouldn't judge that (so much...).
Buying a baby though, sorry, but I do judge that.

Teder · 30/10/2023 19:07

Aqua20 · 30/10/2023 18:12

All of you 'perfect' women, you don't have a clue what it's like having fertility issues. YOU do not knowcwhat lengths you would have gone too.YOU do not know what it's like and YOU do not know how you would have coped!! It's easy to say, I wouldn't do this and that! So yes, all those opinions against using a surro is judgemental!!

This is an appalling view and a way to shut down arguments. There are infertile women who fundamentally think you are wrong and would never do this.
My best friend is painfully childless (her words to describe what she goes through and feels) and I know it hurts her every day. I cannot imagine her pain. She is vocally anti surrogacy and said she would never do it. She says - words to the effect of - her pain does not trump morals.

Changingplace · 30/10/2023 19:13

Aqua20 · 30/10/2023 18:12

All of you 'perfect' women, you don't have a clue what it's like having fertility issues. YOU do not knowcwhat lengths you would have gone too.YOU do not know what it's like and YOU do not know how you would have coped!! It's easy to say, I wouldn't do this and that! So yes, all those opinions against using a surro is judgemental!!

Totally agree, unless anyone’s been though infertility - and I mean 0 child at the end of everything you’ve tried, not struggled to conceive within a couple of months but now have a child/children, then you have no concept of what you might have done, because you’ve never had to seriously consider it.

Changingplace · 30/10/2023 19:15

Teder · 30/10/2023 19:07

This is an appalling view and a way to shut down arguments. There are infertile women who fundamentally think you are wrong and would never do this.
My best friend is painfully childless (her words to describe what she goes through and feels) and I know it hurts her every day. I cannot imagine her pain. She is vocally anti surrogacy and said she would never do it. She says - words to the effect of - her pain does not trump morals.

And your friend is entitled to feel that way about surrogacy, as is another persons view that it’s a route they’d consider.

VWdieselnightmare · 30/10/2023 19:34

Aqua20 · 30/10/2023 18:12

All of you 'perfect' women, you don't have a clue what it's like having fertility issues. YOU do not knowcwhat lengths you would have gone too.YOU do not know what it's like and YOU do not know how you would have coped!! It's easy to say, I wouldn't do this and that! So yes, all those opinions against using a surro is judgemental!!

The fact that you are infertile doesn't mean you have the right to exploit a woman who is less privileged than you in order to buy a baby.