What is this new form of slobdom?

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Staying at a seaside resort in the UK. Large Hotel has a massive open atrium that is overlooked by hotel rooms and anyone walking along the promenade. The hotel restaurant is located smack bang in the middle of the atrium and is open to the reception area. I come down to breakfast this morning and a significant number of guests are sat in their pyjamas having their breakfast! Different families, all scattered around the restaurant or queuing at the breakfast buffet in their nightwear and fluffy slippers. This is the first time that I have come across this. Is it a relatively recent phenomenon?

What about sitting in the garden? I often sit in the back garden in my nightwear in the summer having a cup of tea before breakfast.

I remember years ago I had my gallbladder out. Because of the position of the cuts I couldn't wear my normal trousers so ended up wearing pyjama bottoms for weeks until they healed. I even walked around John Lewis in my PJ bottoms! In my defence this was before lounge wear was a 'thing' and they were plain!

As I said a million posts ago, I don't think that pyjama-hating is particularly objective. It's not the items themselves, or that people actually smell, or even the slovenliness or lack of 'standards'. It's more that others make an association with sweaty clammy bodies and bits and, in the case of non-pants-wearers, with genitalia. None of these things are conducive to enjoying a continental breakfast and especially not a full English. (I'm putting a here because lots of people on this thread have been quite literal)

I also don't think it's necessarily snobbery. In my experience pyjama wearers are more likely to be working class - but I'm just as likely to look over my pince-nez at loud performance parenting, for example, which is certainly a middle class trait.

The bottom line is, I'd like people to think about others when they're in public places. Not to such a degree that the fear of other's judgement dominates their lives, though. A middle ground.

I might have 'a middle ground' tattooed on me somewhere, it's a very good axiom.

@LuciaPillson - absolute genius - thank you!

@WinterDeWinter - I think you've summed up the whole issue perfectly. There's no arguing with 'it makes me feel a bit yuk' over my breakfast.

But a small number of Team PJs are making very heavy weather of the fact that some people just don't like the idea of nightwear in public places, and particularly at mealtimes. I would have thought it's a no-brainer, but hey.

As for the pp who says she wears PJs in her garden - that's totally different - it's her garden, not a public space.

But thanks, OP. This has been a fun thread!

As for the pp who says she wears PJs in her garden - that's totally different - it's her garden, not a public space.

That was me in answer to someone saying only going out to the bins or being on campsite are the only acceptable reasons to be outside in your nightwear. My garden is overlooked so I hope the neighbours aren't too sensitive!

Oh God id be too busy enjoying my hotel stay/holiday to worry about what others were wearing and WATCH people dressed in PJs going back and forth for food!

Sitting in your garden is your own private space. It's completely different to being out in public.

In the same way you might be in your garden in your swimwear if you have a hot tub or pool. You wouldn't go to the shops or out for a meal in your swimming costume though (at least I hope not).

If I'm staying at a hotel I don't dress me or the dc up but I certainly wouldn't go for breakfast wearing my nightwear! I'd probably put on some joggers and a t-shirt. It's like if you're expecting visitors, even in the morning you wouldn't greet them in your pjs!

It's all about social etiquette.

I used to be a home carer and it was an important part of my job to get the service user washed and dressed in the morning even though (especially as this was during covid) it was unlikely that they would be leaving their room/ house.

It takes me about 30n mins to an hour to recover from a 5 mins shower.

Maybe she had spent the day with an ill person be it adult or child and the doc had finally done a prescription. So she flew out of the house to collect it before they shut and that was the nearest chemist to get the needed meds

How ableist. As someone with a chronic illness doing that can really take it out of me and make me more unwell. But we all have to eat!

I would and do. In fact I had to open the door to someone the other day wrapped in a blanket as it was 7.45am and they had woken me up. I sleep naked

ye definitely- if you knock on my door you get whatever me happens to be behind it- I draw the line at naked but anything else goes!

I think the display of utter snobbery on this thread by some MN posters is worse.

Underclass? Classifying the "north" as being where this would happen because people down South are just so full of class and exuding good manners.

It's not something I would do, personally, but I also don't care what other people do. It doesn't impact me at all or anyone else actually. Who really spends that much time caring about what other people are wearing to breakfast? People with no lives and nothing better to do, evidently. Saddos.

Remind me never to borrow your pen 🤣🤣🤣

So I’m not one to judge - so I think it’s a little unreasonable to do so. So long as no one is doing any harm.

I wouldn’t personally do it - and whenever we’ve stayed at Butlins in the Hotels that have onsite restaurants everyone is fully dressed. In fact I don’t think I’ve ever seen it in any hotel I’ve stayed in.

Admirable way to create a temporary repository for small items, but I wonder whether you're making full enough use of the crack by only deploying it for very short-term pen/lighter storage. Perhaps investigate installing some small shelves or better yet a waterproof compartment with a velcro closure, that way you could leave things there that could come in handy, snacks, tissues, fidget spinners and the like, and it would free your own purse and pockets up for anything bulkier that came along, gathering acorns for example, or rescuing distressed hedgehogs. As for the cheeky finger I can't possibly comment, it's your finger and only you can know when it's gone too far. 😁

It’s grim AF op. YANBU.

Never seen it apart from various people with mental health issues.
Also slobdom is an awesome word.

How can you tell people have mental health issues from watching them in a hotel buffet?

@LuciaPillson omg. I am crying with laughter. I think your comment is going to see me through the cold miserable winter 🤣

I've never seen it in a hotel.
I meant out in the general public and the people I've seen are known to have mental health issues.
I suppose people see a hotel as an extension of home, therefore those who have breakfast while in pj's at home continue there.