What is this new form of slobdom?

[Theokaycokey]

Staying at a seaside resort in the UK. Large Hotel has a massive open atrium that is overlooked by hotel rooms and anyone walking along the promenade. The hotel restaurant is located smack bang in the middle of the atrium and is open to the reception area. I come down to breakfast this morning and a significant number of guests are sat in their pyjamas having their breakfast! Different families, all scattered around the restaurant or queuing at the breakfast buffet in their nightwear and fluffy slippers. This is the first time that I have come across this. Is it a relatively recent phenomenon?

Maybe it's a red flag - pyjamas to breakfast. A but like being rude to staff, because it is.

I’ve already said I’m not offended, my point isn’t related to me personally so what do I have to be offensive about?

Disabled people are as likely to wear skimpy pyjamas as anyone else btw- you can’t tell who is disabled by what they are wearing.

What you mean is you don’t enjoy your judgements about people being challenged.

No-one said the upper classes would wear pjs to breakfast in public, but most of them would be too polite to comment on others doing so. Unlike the pearl clutching middle class MNers who think what others do is their business, and who judge people on how they present themselves.

I think some of the posters on this thread must live incredibly sheltered lives if they really believe that what a person wears defines their character.

You wouldn’t turn up to a wedding in PJs - it would be so disrespectful- and so in a minor way is not bothering to perform the most basic of basic functions and simply get dressed in the morning.

Why have several people been mentioning weddings in this discussion, as if a wedding is remotely comparable to a leisurely breakfast at a family hotel?

Why do you think most people employ a professional photographer to take dozens of pictures of everybody at a wedding as standard; whereas if you went around the dining room at a hotel breakfast, taking photos of everybody there, you would probably be asked to leave?

Going on this thread, there must be so many people missing the point of a hotel breakfast entirely. Most people treat it as an opportunity to have a strong coffee and a good hearty meal to start the day with their family; but others rather seem to think it's a fashion show, the purpose of which is to impress or 'respect' the strangers who are ignoring their own breakfast and family/companions to keep staring at others instead.

Indeed. However, it is surprising how many - presumably educated - MNers can't seem to grasp that concept. In their world clothes = clean, pjs = dirty. They obviously don't get out much!!

Btw, if I read the word "grim" once more on this thread I am going to explode.

When I read posts like this I assume the poster lacks purpose (they obviously have nothing more constructive to do in their lives than judge others) and are a dick.

Staff like polite customers... they don't give a shit what you are wearing.

Sorry, but that assumes that where they have got up, showered, prepared your breakfast and served it, that you communicate that you are as the customer "always right".

Is this not something of a minor fuck you? I think it is. It is just another way of being rude. Staff can never say anything because basically people will say "I am the customer". Yet strangely, most people manage to come to breakfast without the attitude.

Seems it's nothing new! This is charming.

www.thesun.co.uk/travel/6193542/tourists-wearing-pyjamas-hotel-breakfast/amp/

And I would put a bra on for the same reason

I don't even own a bra. I don't see the need to wear one.

As someone who was brought up to believe that even coming down stairs, at home , in your dressing gown, was common this brings me out in a cold sweat!!

I'm late to this party, but I am just sorry I didn't think of starting this thread myself, @Theokaycokey.

Thankfully!

"People with true class wouldn't turn a hair at this sort of thing. The MN pearl clutchers are showing themselves up as lacking in class, their superior attitude notwithstanding. It's a pity they are too dense to realise."

Some of the most 'classless' people that I have come across have been from both upper class and a subset of the lower classes. Neither have had to adhere to the complex social norms in order to get ahead. As for being dense...I can assure you that I am most certainly not. I did very well at university thank you very much. It's just that I do have standards. As, reassuring, have most people on this thread.

I don't think anyone's saying people who wear night-wear in public are horrible people, or people who have no worth

Peopleabsolutely ARE saying this!

Those in their PJs have been called, sometimes in subtext:
An underclass
Disrespectful
Rude
Lacking in self worth
Unemployable
Deserving of being homeless
Junkies
Lacking purpose
Slobs
Slovenly
Grim
Lower class
Dirty
Smelly
Unhygienic

I shall also add that the pyjama clad hotel guests were almost certainly not disabled. However, there was a lovely lady in a wheelchair who was very smartly dressed. If she can be bothered to make the effort, which I'm sure was an enormous effort, then the slovenly able bodied teenagers and families could certainly make a quick change. And yes, one of the pyjama clad ladies was dressed to the nines in high heels later on to go out.

I'm pretty disabled. I struggle with most basic physical tasks. I would still get dressed and look respectable for a hotel breakfast. If I find that too hard then we order room service

Although I would add that you wouldn't know that I was disabled. My condition is pretty much invisible to the casual observer

Like I said in a previous comment, look up Spoon Theory.

There is also a huge amount of research showing the importance of getting yourself up and dressed when recovering from illness due to the psychological impact that it has. It contributes towards recovery. I was told this after my husband had been in a coma and was in a wheelchair. The moment that we were able to get him physically out of his NHS green fire retardant pyjamas, he started to feel more normal again. It is also import if suffering from chronic fatigue or low mood. Putting shoes on when at home can also be a motivator. Whilst the odd pyjama day at home or when unwell is fine imo, slobbing around or going out in public like that does not do yourself any favours.

@XenoBitch

I did look it up and whilst I'm sure that there are genuine cases out there who suffer from ill health, they were not the ones holidaying in Brighton in their pyjamas.

I agree. Most disabled people I know (and I know a lot through my condition) still take pride in our appearance and are always going to use some of our "spoons" to be clean and tidy.

I highly doubt that's the reason these people were wearing PJ's

(But I always think it is worth remembering that you can't tell from looking at someone whether they are disabled)

For me, in simple terms.... hotels serve breakfast a lot earlier than what I am used to at home. So I chuck on the previous day's clothes... I don't wash etc. Just get dressed and have breakfast. I shower etc afterwards.
A lot of people would do the same...

I can confirm to those who have raised it that Brighton certainly is not the place that it was 20-30 years ago. It was really busy too.

Re breakfast times at the hotel. We went down for breakfast at 9am and we're there until 9:45ish. So we weren't down there early. Breakfast was served from 6:30am til 10:00am I think.