What is this new form of slobdom?

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Staying at a seaside resort in the UK. Large Hotel has a massive open atrium that is overlooked by hotel rooms and anyone walking along the promenade. The hotel restaurant is located smack bang in the middle of the atrium and is open to the reception area. I come down to breakfast this morning and a significant number of guests are sat in their pyjamas having their breakfast! Different families, all scattered around the restaurant or queuing at the breakfast buffet in their nightwear and fluffy slippers. This is the first time that I have come across this. Is it a relatively recent phenomenon?

@Utterbunkum I have never used the phrase "gives me the ick" before in my life. I don't think that I had ever heard it before being on mumsnet. I am relatively new to mumsnet and have read it that many times that it was just automatic 🤣

Yes of course. What on earth have you been wearing in spas?

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the difference is that although I said that the appearance of rolls of fat or arse cracks gives me the ick. I don't start slagging them off and calling them slobs or anything else that has been thrown around on here. I just think, oh god I really didn't want to see that and then I get on with what I was doing.

But there's no difference! I'm in the 'Yuk - pjs in public' camp, but I wouldn't let that show if confronted with them. I'd keep my opinions to myself, of course (though I might make my excuses and leave...).

I certainly wouldn't 'slag them off and call them slobs' to their faces. It wouldn't cross my mind. But this is a thread for discussing opinions - in a 'safe place', if you like, as the OP has invited us to do. Even the most disapproving of us aren't seriously going to attack pj flashers over their brekkie!!

Same as if I see someone wearing a horrible, horrible colour - I might think to myself 'that's nasty...' but I'm not going to say anything - it's none of my biz.

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But I’m still intrigued about the extreme delicacy of some people 😂Why areyou feeling so delicate in the morning, and does it improve by, say, lunchtime?

😁Yes - I think it is worse first thing. I know lots of people who can't face certain foods at breakfast time that they'd love later on. I think when you've just got up and are feeling a bit disorientated/tired/vulnerable, you are a lot more thin-skinned in general. And seeing pjs creeping up folks' cracks, wobbly willies and bouncing buzzies would be a bridge too far for me over the old cereal and croissants!!!!

Read all the arguments. Nah, still think they are slobs. No self respect.

The difference is in the judgement. Not liking something and saying so is not the same as not liking something and then leaping to a tall, standing conclusion that the person perpetrating the offence has no self-respect, no respect for others, no class, slobs, slovenly, you name it, it's all been chucked at these people on here.
PP didn't say that about the rolls of fat. They didn't make a value judgement about the person displaying those rolls.
I don't know why this is such a hard difference to grasp and why some of you can't see what is so inherently wrong with it.

@CoffeeCantata I was talking about the difference between not liking the look of something and being judgmental about the person that looks that way. You can find something unattractive or even vomit inducing, without forming a derogatory opinion about the reason why that person looks that way, or chose to wear a certain thing.
Yes people on here are expressing their opinion and maybe wouldn't express it to someone directly. It is the fact that people have these opinions and pre conceived judgements that make me uncomfortable and self conscious and choose to stay at home when I am unable to get dressed, instead of nipping to the shop in my pajamas because just like people spread their opinions on here, they also spread them behind your back around the area that you live.
"Oh did you see abcd? She went to the shop in her pajamas, she is a right slob, I bet her house is a right state."
"Omg, somebody should call social services because them poor kids"
Judgement loves gossip.

I don’t think it’s quite the same, more like having lunch at a beach cafe in a swimsuit and coverup.

@Utterbunkum I like you. You are putting what I am trying to say so much more eloquently than I am managing to. I struggle to express what I am trying to get across when trying to fit it in a short, to the point paragraph. 😊

IMO eating breakfast in public in obviously the clothes you've slept in is akin to a man strolling around the supermarket with no top on - it's not doing any direct harm to others, but it's slovenly and ill-mannered.

There are just some unwritten rules/social norms that people are free to ignore but the majority will judge!

Just like at a beach resort, you would sit in your beachwear at the beach cafe/bar but go one street inland and you would wear a top or sundress if shopping/eating... wouldn't you? Again no absolute rule, just a social norm

No it would annoy me as well, same as people in onesies on school room or in the supermarket!

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Maybe they slept naked and put their PJs on when they got up to mooch around before they got ready for the day.

PP have definitely said they don't like people in spas in their swimsuit

Seen much worse in Brighton than people having breakfast in their pjs 🤣

Wow those Sun pictures are grim. They really do undermine any of the pro-pjs at breakfast posts. The words can sound reasonable until you click the link - the idea may sound ok, but the reality is skanky.

Wobbling willies and warm fanny breezes
Short shorts on women and lycra-clad geezers
Soft PJ cloth that revealingly clings,
These are a few of my least favourite things

Arse-cracks that show and are bound to be smelly
Shirts that ride up showing lashings of belly
Wrinkled pyjamas, a body that mings,
These are a few of my least favourite things

So I'm peering
O'er my pince-nez
Watching all who pass,
I'm hating hotels full of nightwear-clad belles -
Can't get over the underclass!

Brilliant

i think the only comment i've recently made about how anyone is dressed was the young lady who was wearing a short skirt and pulling it down every couple of steps.. and that was literally just to say to DD "if you have to keep pulling it down, its too short"

I made no judgement of character.

The issue here is that people are ascribing a way of dressing to some lacking in moral fibre, and that is the problem.

It might not be what you'd do, it might not be what you like to see, but it doesn't give you the right to question someone's morals or character just because of your own personal opinion.

Why would looking at someone in pyjamas exacerbate nausea?! That’s a you problem 😂

I think it's some sort of 'look at me it's cool not to be arsed' statement.

@Springforward1 by the way, a phobia is an irrational fear of something. I am not afraid of body fat, the sight of fat doesn't impede my life. In fact my partner is well above his bmi and I still manage to have sex with him with the light on. Same goes for arse cracks, I am not afraid to leave my house incase I happen to walk past a building site. My partner often puts himself in positions where his crack is out, I just use his crack to briefly store my pen or lighter. If I am not carrying something like that at the time, I will slide a cheeky finger in the top of the chasm. I just don't enjoy looking at other people's fat and cracks.

I think this is the crux of it.

And I am probably a bad person but I find that irritating in any context. The ‘look at me’ posing.

I think only a very small percentage of these people are genuinely ill / disabled. The rest are just lazy and slovenly. IMO the only acceptable reasons to be outdoors in your nightwear is either taking something to your dustbin, or if you are staying at a campsite and need to use the bathroom last thing at night / first thing in the morning.

@LuciaPillson

Excellent!!