What is this new form of slobdom?

[Theokaycokey]

Staying at a seaside resort in the UK. Large Hotel has a massive open atrium that is overlooked by hotel rooms and anyone walking along the promenade. The hotel restaurant is located smack bang in the middle of the atrium and is open to the reception area. I come down to breakfast this morning and a significant number of guests are sat in their pyjamas having their breakfast! Different families, all scattered around the restaurant or queuing at the breakfast buffet in their nightwear and fluffy slippers. This is the first time that I have come across this. Is it a relatively recent phenomenon?

This seems quite uncalled for, even if the people concerned are undoubtedly slobs.

That said, I would lol a little bit if Mrs "I drive a BMW" upthread ended up being shamed in The Sun with a picture of her in pyjama bottoms going right up her bumcrack in the Sainsbury's car park.

I attended a wedding in the summer and the majority of the brides side were wearing slippers all day. Absolutely blew my mind that you would turn up to a posh place for a wedding in slippers.

In the 1980s I was staying in a central London hotel. I went down early for breakfast to find one other person in the restaurant, a well known TV actor, in dressing gown and slippers.

I am 40 and was raised to feel shame and embarrassed and to care what people think of me. This has lead to a life of anxiety, self loathing, lack of confidence. Now that I am disabled, there are times when I really could do with being able to go out in public and not care what others think about me being in my pj's. Unfortunately if I am unable to get dressed, I stay at home because I am too embarrassed to face the judgment of people like those on this thread. If I see someone in their pj's, I think, good for them, to have the freedom to not care what others think of them.
The only problem I have with what people wear is when they have there rolls of fat hanging out or their arse crack on display. Now that gives me the ick.

Well said, and I am sorry you have been made to feel that way by ill-mannered people.

I don’t care about other people’s opinions, I wear a swimming hat like this when I go swimming!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Reef-Classic-Multicoloured-Swimming/dp/B08MK67933/ref=sr_1_65?crid=3MF5QQSPPSRWV&keywords=fashy+swimming+cap&qid=1698314637&sprefix=Fashy+swimming+hat%2Caps%2C74&sr=8-65

I just think it is simple good manners to get washed and dressed before eating breakfast in a public dining room with a load of complete strangers. What next,coming down to dinner in your PJs and dressing gown because you’re only going to go back to your room to watch TV afterwards?

@MargotBamborough - well you see this the difficulty. If you do go down to breakfast looking like you just rolled out of bed, and everyone else is dressed in day clothes, then modern smart phones mean that your "style" can be photographed easily and placed in a newspaper. Btw there were a lot of these type of articles!

Your last 2 sentences are exactly what the majority of people on this thread are saying. There are certain ways people behave in public which is uncalled for. Walking around in PJs in shops or hotel restaurants if you are fit & healthy is one of them. Some posters imply so what & why should it bother anyone else. I'm sure if those people thought about it there would be lots of other things they would deem inappropriate in public and they'd be justified in their feelings. Perhaps we are heading towards a society where everyone believes we should behave and do what we like & to hell with what others think. According to the votes the vast majority of people do care about what impression they make in public if only out of respect for themselves and others around them.

@KimberleyClark

I love that swim hat! That's dressing to impress!

@Springforward1 the difference is that although I said that the appearance of rolls of fat or arse cracks gives me the ick. I don't start slagging them off and calling them slobs or anything else that has been thrown around on here. I just think, oh god I really didn't want to see that and then I get on with what I was doing.
As long as people are not actually hurting anybody then why shouldn't they do what they like, (obviously not going as far as indecent exposure). Why should we live in a society where we have to scrutinies every decision that we make because someone might not like our choice and get offended by something that isn't even their business. Their are still people that get offended by a man dressing as a woman. If someone has the confidence to wear whatever they like and have appropriately covered their body with material, then who are we to judge their choice. In your opinion, wearing pj's in public is uncalled for, others have the same opinion regarding transgender, it doesn't make that opinion correct.
Being shamed into conforming to societal norms should be a thing of the past.

@Theokaycokey thank you!! Mine is blue multi so mot the same colour as the one I linked. I do get some looks at the pool but don’t care!

I’ve never done it. I’m a get up get dressed person so don’t even hang around my own house in pjs. But I wouldn’t even think twice about people going to breakfast in them, as long as they weren’t revealing. Most people have breakfast and then get showered and dressed so I’m assuming that’s what they’re doing.
(I don’t because I don’t eat breakfast)

I sleep in the nip, put yesterday's clothes on for breakfast with no underwear

Have my shower after breakfast
Children go in pjs

We have twice had to evacuate hotels during the night because of fire alarms. That’s why I would always take some PJs if staying in a hotel even if I didn’t wear them.

I wouldn’t stay at the sort of hotel where guests who thought breakfasting in pyjamas was acceptable. Shows a lack of respect for yourself.

Of course we all have our own personal judgements. It's what we DO with them. When our judgements go beyond 'I don't like it' to referring to someone you know nothing about as being lazy, being part of some underclass, having no consideration for others, that's when it starts to be less than savoury..
There was a lot of the 'whatever next' attitude around women wearing trousers. People though that was a massive drop in standards and judge people who did it as having no style, class, etc. Let's not even get into the judgements about tattoos and earrings.
Wouldn't we all be better off if we just didn't make out that our likes and dislikes, however many people share them, were good reasons to make highly offensive value judgements about people we know nothing about?
These judgements have a lot less basis than we imagine. Whilst we bother so much about external appearances, the smart looking businessman at the next table runs a drug racket. The lady in the 3 piece with matching shoes just ripped her employer off for thousands. We know it happens, we know clothes don't maketh the man, but we still insist on prescribing these sweeping judgements based purely on half an our at the breakfast table or a fleeting glance in a shop.
It really doesn't tell you what you think it does. Caring about what others think about you based on what you wear is not remotely the same as caring about other people. It is not mutually exclusive, but it is not the same.

Is mentioning rolls of fat giving you the ick not what many people now describe as fat phobia? Whether we like it or not there will always be societal norms we should respectfully adhere to or else we may as well let anarchy be the new norm. There is nothing wrong with cross dressing if thats what makes you happy and it doesn't involve indecency, although it's got nothing to do with the topic.

Well said!

There is a huge difference between mentioning that something gives you the 'ick' (whilst still not being a particularly polite sentiment to express) and stating that because you feel this way about it, people shouldn't do it.
'Fat-phobic' is a good example to use, because it's actually about treating someone differently purely on the basis of their size. It's about making judgements on their lifestyle and personality purely based on an external factor.
Cross-dressing is actually relevant to this thread, because there's people who make similar value judgements. People who don't want to see someone with the appearance of a man at the breakfast table in a hotel, for reasons of 'public decency'.
The herd mentality is never a good argument, if you think about some prejudices that 'most agreed with'. A lot of people sharing the same view does not equate to that view being correct. It just equates to that view being acceptable by a given majority.

My thoughts exactly! What an awful upbringing that must’ve been.

Is it any weirder than having lunch at a spa in your swimsuit and a fluffy dressing gown?

LOVE this!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

That's also disgusting behaviour according to some posters here

Despite the fact that upmarket spas specifically give you fluffy gowns and slippers so you don't have to redress until leaving

Obviously, yes.

At a spa everyone is in their swimsuit and a fluffy dressing gown and they have probably spent much of the morning sweating in a sauna, showering off afterwards and swimming in chlorinated water.

@Springforward1 I don't like to look at rolls of fat on anybody else or my own spare tire. If I have trousers that are too tight and give me a massive muffin top, I will change into better fitting trousers or cover it with a jumper. I don't just let it all hang out for everyone to see. That is to do with my own body insecurities. If someone wants to have a massive belly hanging out and have shorts and a crop top on and don't care about it, that's entirely their choice. Just because I don't like to see it doesn't mean that I am fat shaming them or judging them for their lifestyle or choices. I live and let live.
There is no difference between shaming someone for being fat or dressing inappropriately for a fat person, or shaming someone whom for whatever reason they choose to wear pajamas, or shaming someone for cross dressing.
They are all choices, whether you agree with them or not.
My problem, is exactly that, my problem.