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Ice cream van outside school

196 replies

MummyJasmin · 23/10/2023 17:03

It’s nearly November and we still have the ice cream van turning up outside primary school! I appreciate he has to make a living but can he not stick to summer or park up somewhere away from the youngest children?

You could maybe reason with an older child but a recently turned 3yo, is nigh on impossible! My lo finishes school tired and therefore prone to be irritable. I usually give in because I can’t be doing with the drama or attention from other parents - by drama I mean screaming and tantrumming etc! He parks in such a place where he cannot be avoided.

I rang my local council and they weren’t bothered. So long as it wasn’t a public protection matter he wasn’t doing anything wrong. The woman I was speaking to had thr audacity to suggest I needed to reason with my 3 yo…so wtf now it’s a parenting issue?! That’s not how 3yos are!

Ive sent an email to the school but I doubt they will do anything

aibu?

OP posts:
WillowCraft · 23/10/2023 22:37

Wonkasworld · 23/10/2023 18:35

No, you want to take the easy way out.

If you want to avoid children eating an unnecessary 500 calories of highly processed crap after school every day it's necessary to provide parents with an easy way out.
Lots of parents find it dificult to say no, lots of parents don't recognise the health risks of eating crap, lots of parents don't recognise that their child is overweight.

That's the reason regulation is needed. Why go to the bother of banning junk food advertising before the watershed if there's an ice cream van parked outside school every day of the week?

The basic fact is that if the van wasn't there, it's highly unlikely that the children would all get bought an ice cream elsewhere, in November. Maybe they would get another unhealthy snack, maybe they wouldn't. But an awful lot of children would be significantly healthier if that van wasn't there.

alibongo5 · 23/10/2023 22:40

BogRollBOGOF · 23/10/2023 21:07

I let my two sit on them, then play the associated theme tune on youtube. This keeps them remarkably entertained despite their maturing years and contorting themselves on to them 😂

They've always known better than to actually ask me to pay on them... well since they were 4 anyway. We finally got there on the meaning of "no" after many, many blistering meltdowns, with the added disadvantage of not knowing that DS1 was ND which added a frisson to any outing.

I don't think mine knew that the machines outside shops moved! I used to let them sit on them and play and they were perfectly happy with that.

Bex5490 · 23/10/2023 23:13

WillowCraft · 23/10/2023 22:37

If you want to avoid children eating an unnecessary 500 calories of highly processed crap after school every day it's necessary to provide parents with an easy way out.
Lots of parents find it dificult to say no, lots of parents don't recognise the health risks of eating crap, lots of parents don't recognise that their child is overweight.

That's the reason regulation is needed. Why go to the bother of banning junk food advertising before the watershed if there's an ice cream van parked outside school every day of the week?

The basic fact is that if the van wasn't there, it's highly unlikely that the children would all get bought an ice cream elsewhere, in November. Maybe they would get another unhealthy snack, maybe they wouldn't. But an awful lot of children would be significantly healthier if that van wasn't there.

But with this logic we would have to shut sweet shops near schools too no?

If a parent can’t say no to a child walking past an ice cream van then how will they be able to say no to a bag of haribo while doing the Asda shop? Or the sugary snacks at soft play?

I’m not having that removing ice cream vans will stop those parents giving their children unhealthy snacks. Sugary stuff is everywhere.

INeedAnotherName · 23/10/2023 23:17

If you want to avoid children eating an unnecessary 500 calories of highly processed crap after school every day it's necessary to provide parents with an easy way out.
Lots of parents find it dificult to say no

I think the school and local authority should be making parenting classes a priority then, and leave the ice creams to the parents who can say no without their child throwing tantrums.

UsingChangeofName · 23/10/2023 23:49

I agree @INeedAnotherName

ThinWomansBrain · 23/10/2023 23:55

presumably not every single child coming out of school has an ice cream every day?
I doubt many could afford it.
other parents manage to say no - you've just decided to raise a spoilt brat that has no boundaries and gets everything it screams for,
that will make for a delightful teenager - and adult.

RoseGoldEagle · 24/10/2023 01:14

Sorry OP, am usually the first to roll my eyes at replies that have unrealistic expectations of small children, but in this case I think YABU. A firm but kind ‘sorry sweetie, I know it’s rough when you want something and can’t have it, let’s get you home.’ and carry him past if/ use stroller to get him past if needed, he will stop asking once he realises there’s no point, and you don’t have to be mean about it with him, just matter of fact.

IvorTheEngineDriver · 24/10/2023 01:24

...so wtf now it’s a parenting issue?! That’s not how 3yos are!

Yes, of course it's a parenting issue. WTF made you think it wasn't? If you don't want your child to have ice cream, then tell them that they cannot have one.

IvorTheEngineDriver · 24/10/2023 01:27

WillowCraft · 23/10/2023 22:37

If you want to avoid children eating an unnecessary 500 calories of highly processed crap after school every day it's necessary to provide parents with an easy way out.
Lots of parents find it dificult to say no, lots of parents don't recognise the health risks of eating crap, lots of parents don't recognise that their child is overweight.

That's the reason regulation is needed. Why go to the bother of banning junk food advertising before the watershed if there's an ice cream van parked outside school every day of the week?

The basic fact is that if the van wasn't there, it's highly unlikely that the children would all get bought an ice cream elsewhere, in November. Maybe they would get another unhealthy snack, maybe they wouldn't. But an awful lot of children would be significantly healthier if that van wasn't there.

Taken to the logical conclusion then, parents have no responsibility for their children's upbringing. It's all down to "the authorities" (whether national or local) and the schools. Never heard such nonsense.

Gidrich · 24/10/2023 01:34

IvorTheEngineDriver · 24/10/2023 01:27

Taken to the logical conclusion then, parents have no responsibility for their children's upbringing. It's all down to "the authorities" (whether national or local) and the schools. Never heard such nonsense.

Bloody convenient though- never having to put any effort in to creating boundaries. I would have the energy to have 3 more kids if someone else is going to do all the difficult bits!

user1492757084 · 24/10/2023 05:50

Just say NO to your child.
Can you not teach the days of the week to him?
Teach him that on Fridays he gets an ice-cream. Mark the days off in the morning and prepare him for no ice-cream until Friday.

Paltrypam · 24/10/2023 06:28

I smiled at the way the OP responded with a her strong defence about how her kids are otherwise dream children - never ever kick up a fuss about toys, sweets, never had a MacDonald’s etc etc
😂

CeriB82 · 24/10/2023 06:38

Its ice cream, not class A drugs.

Wonkasworld · 24/10/2023 10:29

Gidrich · 24/10/2023 01:34

Bloody convenient though- never having to put any effort in to creating boundaries. I would have the energy to have 3 more kids if someone else is going to do all the difficult bits!

😂

Gifgirl · 24/10/2023 10:49

bathrobeandpie · 23/10/2023 21:59

You have to love how quickly a trail derail from an ice-cream van in October to one selling drug and now how grateful anyone should be if their kids are served any food at all at school.

Says the person who mentioned school dinners in the first place....

bathrobeandpie · 24/10/2023 11:16

Gifgirl · 24/10/2023 10:49

Says the person who mentioned school dinners in the first place....

I made an off comment to tell the OP if she was that bothered about <shock horror> unhealthy ice-cream, she should have a look at school diners first.

It's not me who turned it into a huge debate 😂

Gifgirl · 24/10/2023 11:33

bathrobeandpie · 24/10/2023 11:16

I made an off comment to tell the OP if she was that bothered about <shock horror> unhealthy ice-cream, she should have a look at school diners first.

It's not me who turned it into a huge debate 😂

Lols. There really is no point in this conversation 😂

bathrobeandpie · 24/10/2023 11:37

and yet there you are 😂

ManateeFair · 24/10/2023 11:39

Yes, YABU. He is perfectly to run his business by parking up where it's most profitable, ie where there are lots of kids.

It's not his fault you can't deal with your toddler. How do you cope with walking past a sweet shop? Do think they should all close down for you as well?

You phoned the council because you can't cope with saying no to a fucking ice cream? Good grief.

Maray1967 · 24/10/2023 11:41

RedHelenB · 23/10/2023 17:11

This. Or have a day a week where they can have one. "Not today, we get one on a Friday"

This was my solution - Friday treat.

OP, you need to get tough. Tantrumming three year old gets picked up and marched past, kicking and screaming. If too heavy, take the buggy and strap them in.

Never ever give in.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 24/10/2023 17:41

WillowCraft · 23/10/2023 22:19

Eh? Every school round here has a nursery/preschool for 3 year olds. And the OP has a 5 year old as well at the school..

We clearly don't live in the same place then. I don't see what the "Eh?" is required for 🙄

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