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AIBU?

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To think DP's nephews are tearing us apart?

531 replies

FuchsiaBottles · 22/10/2023 11:13

DP has recently moved in with me.

Yesterday, we were supposed to go to this restaurant for dinner. This is the kind of restaurant that requires you to make a reservation way in advance and we've been looking forward to yesterday night for weeks.

On Fri, DP's sister called asking him if he could look after his nephews (aged 10 and 8) from "tomorrow afternoon onwards" because her and her husband have had a stressful week and would like to take some downtime to have dinner + movie together. DP agreed!!

This caused an argument and I ended up going to the restaurant with a friend of mine. Came home last night and DP was sulking. He's upset that I went without him, that I wouldn't compromise and go get a pizza with him and his nephews instead, that he was left alone to run around after his nephews who are very loud, full-on, and frankly have a penchant for destruction (they've already broken my iPad which I had to pay to replace and my favourite bag has a disgusting stain on it from when they touched it with ice-cream soaked hands).

This isn't a one-off incident. We (mostly DP) are basically on demand childcare for his sister and that demand comes along once every fortnight.

I was WFH one day and one came around (we got the notice only 2h in advance) because the other had a football match. He was just running around the house (DP also had to WFH so couldn't be watching him throughout even though he was in the same room as DP as it's where the Xbox was). Nephew kept opening the door to my office while I was working. I locked the door. He kept hammering the door while running around despite me telling DP that I was in an important meeting and would like him to keep his nephew under control.

I love that he's close to his family. But I think there's a limit to that and I can't deal with it anymore. AIBU to think that this arrangement with his sister is unsustainable?

OP posts:
SeulementUneFois · 24/10/2023 12:31

Well done OP!
Steel yourself for the inevitable emotional blackmail to follow...don't give in!

Ktime · 24/10/2023 12:37

FuchsiaBottles · 24/10/2023 12:20

P has been shipped out of the house and out of the relationship. I don’t want the whole bloody gang over for Halloween

Omg was that their plan? To have a party at yours?

How did he react to being turfed out?

Well done!

INeedAnotherName · 24/10/2023 12:39

FuchsiaBottles · 24/10/2023 12:20

P has been shipped out of the house and out of the relationship. I don’t want the whole bloody gang over for Halloween

I'm assuming you had a proper chat first so it's sad that he couldn't realise the harm he was doing to your relationship. I'm sorry OP.

Thelaundryfairyhasbeenassassinated · 24/10/2023 12:40

Well done OP. Can't of been easy but you and your home deserve to be respected.

Coffeepot72 · 24/10/2023 12:44

FuchsiaBottles · 24/10/2023 12:20

P has been shipped out of the house and out of the relationship. I don’t want the whole bloody gang over for Halloween

Blimey OP, what happened? And were they planning to hold a halloween party at your house (god forbid)??

blondiepigtails · 24/10/2023 13:16

Why can't he look after them at his sister's house and leave you in peace??

Coffeepot72 · 24/10/2023 13:21

blondiepigtails · 24/10/2023 13:16

Why can't he look after them at his sister's house and leave you in peace??

Good question. What did he used to do, before he met you OP?

LolaSmiles · 24/10/2023 13:29

Why can't he look after them at his sister's house and leave you in peace??
I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's because his sister and her DH don't want to hear the noise of their badly behaved children so want them out of sight and out of mind in order to relax.
If the kids are somewhere else then it's not their problem.

sassyclassyandsmartassy · 24/10/2023 13:30

If his sister and her husband are struggling it’s because of their attitude to parenting explained in this thread 🙄. They chose to have their children, it is therefore their responsibility to raise them. They can ask your DP to have them, by means, and he has every right to say no.

Your problem, in true MN style, is a DP problem!

Hes a man child who expects you to suck up what he is prepared to suffer and that’s a hard no! You had every right to go out as planned and he needs to give his head a wobble! He made a choice and choices have consequences (just like the choice his sister made in having two kids and actively choosing not to parent them effectively).

He should pay for your iPad and your bag, the nephews are old enough to be taught boundaries!!!!

diddl · 24/10/2023 13:31

FuchsiaBottles · 24/10/2023 12:20

P has been shipped out of the house and out of the relationship. I don’t want the whole bloody gang over for Halloween

Good for you!

Coffeepot72 · 24/10/2023 13:46

It never fails to amaze/sadden me, how many men are willing to sacrifice their relationship with their partner, just to avoid standing up to one of their relatives.

IncompleteSenten · 24/10/2023 13:49

FuchsiaBottles · 24/10/2023 12:20

P has been shipped out of the house and out of the relationship. I don’t want the whole bloody gang over for Halloween

Sounds like you had a last straw moment. What happened?

YerArseInParsley · 24/10/2023 13:50

@FuchsiaBottles

He now lives with you in your home. He now has to tell his sister I will speak to fuchsia and get back to you. He's not a single guy anymore.

Why is he agreeing to have the kids when you are working from home? You need to tell him what's acceptable and what isn't and he needs to consult you before saying yes as it's not just him looking after the kids it's both of you now. If he insists on looking after them when it's not convenient then he goes to his sisters to look after them. This sounds like it's going to be a permanent thing that every 2 weeks you are expected to have these boys. You need to nip it in the bud and as for him saying yes when yous were going out is a bit shitty. He should have said no, we have plans.

YerArseInParsley · 24/10/2023 13:57

Just saw the update after I posted. Wow, what happened?

Winnipeg23 · 24/10/2023 13:59

FuchsiaBottles · 24/10/2023 12:20

P has been shipped out of the house and out of the relationship. I don’t want the whole bloody gang over for Halloween

Well done. Rip the plaster right off. That was a massive red flag and horrible behaviour/attitude/disrespect on his part. You absolutely don't need that in your life.
Hopefully he will learn a lesson as well.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 24/10/2023 14:03

Understandable!
I hope you are OK Op - being right and doing the best thing doesn't always feel good at first.

Emotionalsupportviper · 24/10/2023 14:03

momonpurpose · 24/10/2023 01:42

I know a lot of people are saying if you have a child he will let them do anything they want. That's not the worst case scenario. It can go the other way where nephews can do anything they please while he is a hard disciplinarian to your own. I cannot tell you how damaging that is but my/our daughter's been in therapy for 3 years with very little improvement. It really broke her. I put my foot done about his nephew and he left. Good Riddance

I'm so sorry - you're poor daughter!

And for your DHto choose his nephew over his own child is appalling! (I wonder if he would have had the same parenting manner with your child had she been a boy? Or would he have indulged a boy the way he did your nephew?

Either way, your poor daughter has been undermined and her confidence very badly dented - thank heavens he's gone.

Emotionalsupportviper · 24/10/2023 14:12

NotLactoseFree · 24/10/2023 10:44

There are quite a few things here but as someone with a not dissimilar situation - SIL who has no one else so we help out, plus a child who is very difficult. What we've found is:

Except in a genuine emergency, we don't do ad hoc childcare. He is high maintenance and we need to plan. In the same vein however, we DO have regular slots we take him - eg after school one day a week or if we're doing something we will offer to take him along. This allows us to plan, take time off work etc. This is really really important, especially also for our DC who love him but find him really hard work so they need to mentally prepare for his arrival.

We also absolutely DO impose boundaries and tell him off - and that goes for me and DH. Ironically, I am the adult in his life who is MOST likely to tell him off but I'm also one of his absolute favourite people in the world and, given the chance, would be glued to my side all the time (I'm not wild about that).

I think it's because while I do tell him off I find it quite easy to be very consistent with him (more so even than with my own children) - if he does X he gets a telling off, but if he does Y, he gets praise. Unfortunately, he gets very little consistency (praise or discipline) anywhere else because his parents are very erratic and his grandmother, who is around a lot, is very soft with him.

We also absolutely DO impose boundaries and tell him off - and that goes for me and DH. Ironically, I am the adult in his life who is MOST likely to tell him off but I'm also one of his absolute favourite people in the world and, given the chance, would be glued to my side all the time (I'm not wild about that).

I can well believe that he is very attached to you.

People forget that children need boundaries - they make them feel safe. Yes, they kick against them, and fight them all the time, but the fact that they are there reassures them.

This child knows exactly where he is with you. This is very important, especially if he is neurodivergent. Inconsistency will be alarming for him and his parents' erratic rules and regulations won't help him at all.

Emotionalsupportviper · 24/10/2023 14:17

Emotionalsupportviper · 24/10/2023 14:03

I'm so sorry - you're poor daughter!

And for your DHto choose his nephew over his own child is appalling! (I wonder if he would have had the same parenting manner with your child had she been a boy? Or would he have indulged a boy the way he did your nephew?

Either way, your poor daughter has been undermined and her confidence very badly dented - thank heavens he's gone.

you're poor daughter!

Sorry to quote myself - it was just so that I could grovel an apology for "you're" where it should have been "your".

As Nag the Cobra said - "Kill me! I am ashamed!" Blush

FuchsiaBottles · 24/10/2023 14:23

It’s ridiculous. Apparently their area doesn’t have anything going on for Halloween while ours do. So dear old sis sent him a screenshot of a Facebook post and he’s agreed (without consulting me) to have them over for Halloween!!

Apparently too this was all arranged around a week+ ago but as usual I was not notified until the last minute.

He now thinks I’m “cold/selfish/heartless” and “just like my bitch of a mother”. Confused

OP posts:
Olika · 24/10/2023 14:28

This actually really pisses me off. Tell your partner it's over and to live out.

2jacqi · 24/10/2023 14:28

FuchsiaBottles · 24/10/2023 14:23

It’s ridiculous. Apparently their area doesn’t have anything going on for Halloween while ours do. So dear old sis sent him a screenshot of a Facebook post and he’s agreed (without consulting me) to have them over for Halloween!!

Apparently too this was all arranged around a week+ ago but as usual I was not notified until the last minute.

He now thinks I’m “cold/selfish/heartless” and “just like my bitch of a mother”. Confused

sorry but you just have to say to his sister and him "fuck off, my home, not his so it is always going to be your rules"

nibblessquibbles · 24/10/2023 14:31

This is not a nephew problem but a DP problem. Your DP doesn't seem to consider your feelings or want to consult you on important matters.
So actually he is selfish and heartless as he is not considering your needs. If he doesn't want to change then that says it all really

BetterPlease · 24/10/2023 14:35

Anytime someone called me a bitch would be the very last time, let alone my mother. No coming back from that. Basic respect is the bare minimum you can expect.

Emotionalsupportviper · 24/10/2023 14:35

FuchsiaBottles · 24/10/2023 14:23

It’s ridiculous. Apparently their area doesn’t have anything going on for Halloween while ours do. So dear old sis sent him a screenshot of a Facebook post and he’s agreed (without consulting me) to have them over for Halloween!!

Apparently too this was all arranged around a week+ ago but as usual I was not notified until the last minute.

He now thinks I’m “cold/selfish/heartless” and “just like my bitch of a mother”. Confused

I'm glad that your "bitch of a mother" has taught you not to put up with any cr@p! 😁