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Friend lying about tv appearance.

259 replies

KatKoot · 20/10/2023 22:54

A friend of mine has recently told me (& put on Facebook) that they were going to be a contestant on a popular quiz show
However when I checked online to see if I could be part of the audience the website said the show had been recorded in March and will be on tv in 2024.
WIBU to call this friend out on their lie or is it possible they’re telling the truth & audience website is incorrect.

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WomanStanleyWoman2 · 21/10/2023 10:06

KatKoot · 20/10/2023 23:10

I think they are a compulsive liar. I’ve always tried to be kind & help them out but it’s going too far now.

What other lies has this person told, OP? People might be a bit more willing to believe this isn’t a simple misunderstanding about recording dates if you provided some examples.

Fluffyowls · 21/10/2023 10:16

How many people get to 12 questions?

If this is true, and the production company see this thread then they can probably identify her and pull her appearance/prizes. I don't know if she's lying but your posts here could be jeopardising things for her if she isn't.

404usernotfound · 21/10/2023 10:21

As the daughter of a compulsive lier I’m going to go against the flow here.

I think most people assume compulsive lying is people telling little fibs for attention. It’s not. It’s a literal compulsion, an illness similar to OCD, and it can be hugely damaging for the friends and relatives of the sick person because of the complete breakdown of trust.

A compulsive lier, when going through a certain phase, really doesn’t think about “getting caught”. They genuinely don’t understand that other people can weigh up probability and evidence to reach a conclusion. It’s very close to narcissism in that they really think that others will believe the “reality” that they construct.

I think it is entirely possible that OPs friend has lied as a compulsion, and will simply construct more lies to explain it away (episode got pulled, turned out the other contestant was a Russian spy so it can’t be aired …)

That doesn’t mean you can’t be her friend OP. It really is an illness. But it’s very difficult to deal with.

Isthisexpected · 21/10/2023 10:24

I think the most likely explanation is the website isn't up to date.

YouJustDoYou · 21/10/2023 10:25

So what? Very sad you care so much, just ignore it.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 21/10/2023 10:28

The difficulty is when the liar expects you to go along with a lie. Smile and nod, and wait for her to appear on the programme. You know she won't, she knows she won't. If she says any more, call her out. But I wouldn't be discussing this or confronting her unless she tries to involve you. I had a friend at school who was is a compulsive liar. It was very wearing, but harmless, until one that was very upsetting. Thankfully I don't have to see her now.

Mirandawrongs · 21/10/2023 10:45

I’ve worked in tv production and calling contestants back even months later to re-record something is not unusual.
can be something to do with a question being changed or just the dialogue. Could even be someone in the audience causing issues.
none of this would be regarded as original filming just editing

you seem quite envious if your friend but if you do believe they are lying just distance yourself from them.
it’s a thing people will discover eventually why do you have to be the me to take the glory and hand out the shame.
you're not a friend.
“that’s nice, I’ll actively look out for it”
is what a friend would say.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 21/10/2023 10:47

404usernotfound · 21/10/2023 10:21

As the daughter of a compulsive lier I’m going to go against the flow here.

I think most people assume compulsive lying is people telling little fibs for attention. It’s not. It’s a literal compulsion, an illness similar to OCD, and it can be hugely damaging for the friends and relatives of the sick person because of the complete breakdown of trust.

A compulsive lier, when going through a certain phase, really doesn’t think about “getting caught”. They genuinely don’t understand that other people can weigh up probability and evidence to reach a conclusion. It’s very close to narcissism in that they really think that others will believe the “reality” that they construct.

I think it is entirely possible that OPs friend has lied as a compulsion, and will simply construct more lies to explain it away (episode got pulled, turned out the other contestant was a Russian spy so it can’t be aired …)

That doesn’t mean you can’t be her friend OP. It really is an illness. But it’s very difficult to deal with.

I agree with you on the behaviour of compulsive liars, having been at school with one (I wonder if it’s the same one as @Pocketfullofdogtreats? 😁)

However, the OP threw in “I think she’s a compulsive liar”, with no additional context, in the last of several posts. If that had been in the opening post with some kind of background (e.g. “She once told me she’d been to a five-star resort in Vegas when it was actually a B&B in Blackpool; she pretends she’s met famous people but never has her camera for a selfie” and so on), people would probably share the OP’s suspicions. As it is, it looks like the OP has leapt to the lie conclusion when it could be as simple as a website not being updated.

MalbecJunkie · 21/10/2023 11:08

I think it’s rather unkind of you to want to ‘expose’ her.

Either it’s true and you’ll look like an idiot or it isn’t and that will be obvious to everyone anyway.

Ahfeckingfeckit · 21/10/2023 11:20

I was on a quiz show that didn’t air for 9 months. Couldn’t talk about it. One of the stipulations though is if you talk about how you did to anyone outside of spouse/ partner you lose the prize money. The prize money is only given to you AFTER the show airs.
Millionaire also pays out AFTER show airs.
if you’re friend is genuine - could be,
Millionaire films in Media City, - she’s risking losing any money one.
Intold work colleagues Inhad done filming ( but not how I did obvs) and turns out a couple thought I was lying! Because they had seen it aired and I didn’t know the airing date till the week before.

GlasgowGal82 · 21/10/2023 11:26

A family member appeared on a TV quiz show a few years ago and they weren't allowed to tell any family or friends that they were going to be on it until the week it was broadcast. They also weren't allowed to tell anyone the outcome until after the show. They had to sign an agreement binding them to both those points so this sounds totally plausible to me.

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 21/10/2023 11:36

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 21/10/2023 01:26

I’ve never read so much overdramatic nonsense. The OP hasn’t been tarred and feathered, for heaven’s sake. You really need to get a grip.

The irony 😂you've never read such over dramatic nonsense, calm down!

I don't think that's an entirely factual reflection of my post, just because I called out the number of really overdone nasty posts. Honestly, supporting bullying isn't kind. OP really did not deserve the pile on.

RoomOfRequirement · 21/10/2023 11:41

With friends like you who needs enemies!

clpsmum · 21/10/2023 11:48

KatKoot · 20/10/2023 22:57

Not sure really. Maybe find out why they’ve said this if not true. I’ve caught them lying in the past but never had it out with them. But this is a biggie.

It's really not a biggie! There are lots of explanations and it's really odd you didn't just ask her if you could go instead of (what feels like) trying to catch her out in a sneaky manner. Maybe the days of your friendship are in the past

clpsmum · 21/10/2023 11:49

KatKoot · 20/10/2023 23:02

To reiterate. Friend told me last weekend they were going to be on who wants to be a millionaire as a contestant this week. I wanted to be in the audience so looked on Lost in tv who arrange tickets. The website said recording was in March not this week.
Friend messaged yesterday & said they had got to 12 questions.

And why couldn't she have recorded it on match? You don't sound like the greatest friend tbh. Good for her and her win hope she spends it wisely

FuckingHellAdele · 21/10/2023 11:52

A friend of mine took part in two unrelated quiz shows, about 10 months apart.

Coincidentally, they both aired in the same week. The funny thing was that he's terrible for yo-yo dieting, so in one he was thin, then a few days later he was fat 😂

allofthelove · 21/10/2023 11:56

My cousin has been on television multiple times for different quiz shows , these are normally filmed months in advance .

TurquoiseMermaid · 21/10/2023 12:06

My God, the reading comprehension on this thread is shocking.

OP's friend explicitly said that the show filmed this month October 2023 and is giving updates on filming in the present tense, eg saying "I've just reached 12 questions and have won £125,000."

I don't know why so many posters keep berating the OP by saying "DUHHHH everyone knows they film months in advance she filmed in back in March and it's only airing now" - friend very obviously is not referring to something that happened in March.

The episodes filmed in March don't even air until next year. Do posters think the episodes filmed in March are airing now, and that when the friend says "I'm on the show this week" she's referring to the airdate? Because that can't be the case - there are no new episodes airing until 2024. So why would friend say "this week"? She can't be in an episode that's airing this week because there aren't any, and she can't be in an episode that's filming this week because there aren't any.

I really don't understand why the OP is being given such a kicking. If a friend contacted me all excited saying they were going to be on TV, my first thought would be "oh it'd be fun to see if I can get tickets to watch them!" Most people have never been on a TV set, and would find the opportunity to watch someone they knew being filmed very fun and exciting and a break from the monotony of everyday life. That's very normal human behaviour. I actually work in TV so I see how excited people get about anything connected to TV. A neighbour of mine was on a quiz show and practically half the village were chomping at the bit to try to get tickets, even people who weren't that close to the person, just because people find it very exciting to be able to visit a TV set and say "I know that person."

OP was told her friend would be filming the show this October, naturally googled on the off-chance she could come and watch, found info that made her think her friend is lying, and is now worried that she's being lied to. It's very normal to dislike being lied to because that affects trust; I don't understand all the people going "it's none of your business that your friend tells you massive lies because the lie doesn't directly affect you" - really? Would YOU be comfortable with a friend telling you lies? All lies affect the person being lied to even if the lie itself doesn't directly affect them, because it means the other person is comfortable telling lies, which means you can't ever really trust anything they say.

I'm not seeing anything to indicate that OP looked up tickets with the intention of catching her friend out in a lie, or that OP hates her friends. I have friends who have habits or flaws (sometimes major flaws) that drive me nuts, but I still love them. It's possible to love someone and want their friendship, but still be discomfited by aspects of their behaviour. MN is very black and white about relationships: if someone isn't perfect it's "LTB!! Go NC with your entire family!!" but in real life you might like/love someone but still think they tell porkies, and be uncomfortable with that, but still consider them a friend.

KatKoot · 21/10/2023 12:27

Thank you @TurquoiseMermaid that is it in a nutshell. You put it so much better than me.
For those asking; friend has been caught lying by others. For example they said they could drive & had had a car in the past but only had a provisional licence. They’ve said they had a new job but didn’t. (Mutual friend worked there & said they never interviewed or worked there).
People’s comments have been quite unkind. Don’t know what I’ve said to deserve it.

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Angelsrose · 21/10/2023 12:33

@KatKoot I think most people are just thinking it's not a big deal. This is not a matter you will be really worried about in 30 years time, why spend time on it now? Your friend seems to have upset you a lot in the past. It just sounds as if it's time for you to move on from this friendship. I wish you well.

KrisAkabusi · 21/10/2023 12:34

For example they said they could drive & had had a car in the past but only had a provisional licence.
Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. It's quite possible to own a car on a provisional. Or to say you can drive when you have one.

KatKoot · 21/10/2023 12:36

They said they had a full driving licence but only had a provisional. Why lie about it?

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Wouldyouguess · 21/10/2023 12:46

KatKoot · 21/10/2023 12:36

They said they had a full driving licence but only had a provisional. Why lie about it?

If it bothers you, then don't be friends with them. Otherwise, do you get joy out of catching them out and announcing to the world they lied? Do your other friends?
Maybe they lie because they want to feel more relevant, maybe they have some other issues. If it is a big thing for you, distance yourself from them. If they are a friend, maybe have a conversation with them about it.

Wouldyouguess · 21/10/2023 12:47

Also you drip feed so much it's hard to follow. I think this annoys people more than anything. First you said they lied about having a driving license and a car, then add they supposedly had mentioned they had a FULL driving license, like you want to justify yourself.

KatKoot · 21/10/2023 13:00

We attend a group activity. A few of the others are ‘mean girls’ & may exclude this person with the continuous lies. I like this person. Have not gossiped about them but others keep saying things & it’s all adding up.
Surely you can only drive with a full licence.
Didn’t intend to drip feed just did a short first post with basic info.
Someone above shared an article stated that Jeremy Clarkson filmed his last Millionaire in March. No further episodes made due the newspaper article insulting MM.

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