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To think he had no right to tell me not to buy milk?

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notmilkingit · 11/10/2023 21:33

Walked home from dropping dc to school with dh today. I nipped in to a corner shop with the intention of buying some milk as it was a cold rainy day where I am and I was planning to make dc and friends they had coming for a play date hot chocolates after school (5 children in total if that is relevant).

I took it to the counter to pay and dh started barking at me in front of the shop assistant that we had a litre and a half at home already and I was being wasteful. He told me to put it back, I didn’t. He then reached for it and I told him I was buying it because it was my choice to buy it.

Bearing in mind the 5 cups of hot chocolate, teas and coffees and 2 bowls of cereal the next morning for dc1 and dh, there would be very little left from a litre and a half and I have no plans to go to the shops tomorrow!

OP posts:
BeavisMcTavish · 12/10/2023 07:07

Perfect28 · 12/10/2023 06:35

@BeavisMcTavish how can you read this situation as her fault? No, normal communication isn't discussing and agreeing on every little mudane thing, that's control.

i didn’t say that did I. He sounds like a bit of a knob in general, but how on earth did a couple who were together end up in a shop, at the counter buying a product without the other knowing anything about it.

AND when enquired why given the abundance of said product was told ‘because I want to’.

The husband is an arse for sure, but no one else finds this a completely unnecessary confrontation that wasn’t solved by simply saying ‘ahh I’m doing a batch of hot chocolate’

the mind boggles - they probably deserve each other.

BarleySugars · 12/10/2023 07:09

Unless you are putting family in debt through vast constant food waste i think his behaviour is bloody weird. If thats normal for him maybe time to think about living without it, if not i do wonder if theres secret money worries or something causing such freaky behaviour?

C1N1C · 12/10/2023 07:09

SchoolQuestionnaire · 12/10/2023 06:52

This.

Imagine thinking it’s acceptable to tell someone the ‘correct response’.

Fwiw in my house dh might have asked if we definitely need the milk. I’d have said yes and that would have been the extent of the discussion. If he’d told me to put something back I would have been far more argumentative than op.

While 'correct', I'll agree, does sound a bit assertive, I stand by my words. I would choose a healthy discussion any day over 'tough sh!t, I'm doing this anyway'.

As I stated above, this issue is 99% around the tone rather than the sentiment. He said a flat 'no' rather than questioning why it was needed, and she said 'tough sh!t' rather than explaining her reasoning.

His 'no' is just as assertive (and controlling) as her "I'm doing this anyway". Both are wrong. Don't you agree that a healthy (although I used the term 'correct') response should have been a discussion instead? "I disagree with your need (or lack thereof) for this product... here's why"?

MessyMyrtle · 12/10/2023 07:09

OP had already explained why she was getting the milk outside the shop - before they went in.

Theunamedcat · 12/10/2023 07:22

BeavisMcTavish · 12/10/2023 07:07

i didn’t say that did I. He sounds like a bit of a knob in general, but how on earth did a couple who were together end up in a shop, at the counter buying a product without the other knowing anything about it.

AND when enquired why given the abundance of said product was told ‘because I want to’.

The husband is an arse for sure, but no one else finds this a completely unnecessary confrontation that wasn’t solved by simply saying ‘ahh I’m doing a batch of hot chocolate’

the mind boggles - they probably deserve each other.

But she already TOLD him why BEFORE they went into the shop why does she need to repeat herself like he is a child

BeavisMcTavish · 12/10/2023 07:28

Theunamedcat · 12/10/2023 07:22

But she already TOLD him why BEFORE they went into the shop why does she need to repeat herself like he is a child

Which post did you read? It looks like it was a closely guarded secret until the counter?

Jackienory · 12/10/2023 07:32

Not another buying milk thread ?.

Myneighboursarewankers · 12/10/2023 07:40

Gnomegnomegnome · 11/10/2023 21:37

Mumsnet is a funny place tonight.

Buy a cow and be done with it.

Sounds like she married one 🤷‍♀️

ScarlettSunset · 12/10/2023 07:44

Not too sure why there's some snippy responses on here (though I've clearly missed all the milk buying threads) but I'd be really upset about this too.
I'd feel awful and embarrassed if my DP started telling me not to buy something and trying to put it back in front of everyone in a shop, and generally treating me like I was too stupid to know whether we had enough of something at home, while we were out in public.
I'm not saying it's ok to treat someone like that at home in private either, but behaving like that in the shop would definitely cause additional discomfort.

JingsMahBucket · 12/10/2023 07:46

BeavisMcTavish · 12/10/2023 07:28

Which post did you read? It looks like it was a closely guarded secret until the counter?

@BeavisMcTavish read the OP’s posts. You can tap “See All” and just read hers alone in order to catch up.

MustBeNapTime · 12/10/2023 07:49

BeavisMcTavish · 12/10/2023 07:28

Which post did you read? It looks like it was a closely guarded secret until the counter?

In her post, Yesterday 23:28.

DappledThings · 12/10/2023 08:01

TheShellBeach · 11/10/2023 23:19

Yes, but not in bottles!

Of course you can. My parents only have defrosted milk. They buy 6 pint bottles and use them to bulk out the freezer. Then take one out as necessary and defrost it overnight.

We have an emergency pint in the freezer for when we've run out and need some in the morning.

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 12/10/2023 08:03

aloris · 12/10/2023 04:41

It's not necessary to have the purchase of every quart of milk pre-planned like a military operation, nor to criticize someone as "impulsive and wasteful" if she buys a quart outside of her husband's predetermined schedule. That is merely an excuse to rationalize controlling behavior. Also, she did actually have a good reason for buying extra milk, it's just that her husband expected her to provide a codified petition to justify less than two pounds worth of groceries as if he was the owner of all their money and she was merely a servant living in his home. Disgusting.

There is such a vault of rank misogyny lurking in some people that it really makes me afraid of what happens whenever laws protecting women are weakened.

I was replying to @squirrelfeeder, not the OP

Pigeon31 · 12/10/2023 08:07

I do have some sympathy for the partner, because I don't use much milk at home but he has cereal every day et al, and when I go out to the local supermarket I usually ask him if there is anything we need, and he always reflexively says we need milk.

After coming home with a 4-pint to find there was at least half the existing milk still in the fridge, I have tried to explain that I kind of expect him to know how much milk is left since he uses it every day so when I say "do we need anything" I actually mean, DO WE NEED ANYTHING RIGHT NOW and not "is the milk likely to run out in 3 or 4 days time".

ASCCM · 12/10/2023 08:09

By milk do you actually mean £6k Chanel handbag?

because if you do actually mean milk then your husband is an absolute dickhead.

Mikimoto · 12/10/2023 08:16

Maybe he prefers Oatly?

Goldenbear · 12/10/2023 08:17

I don't agree with his behaviour but you said he is stressed and presumably he doesn't want to what he thinks, buy something that is a waste of money. Is that related to the number of children coming to yours for a playdate?

Partyfavour123 · 12/10/2023 08:21

He can tell you what he likes but you don't have to listen to him. Ignore and move on

AgnesX · 12/10/2023 08:40

C1N1C · 11/10/2023 23:05

I can see both sides here. I do the shopping and my wife is 'less experienced' with the planning that is required for the task. She'll have a craving for say a sandwich and buy 10 ingredients costing £20, and will never return to those ingredients after she's made her sandwich as "she's not a snacker". Those ingredients will all go off in the fridge over the next few days. I'll buy what I need, know exactly what is in the fridge, and use all of it before it's use by date.

So if OP's hubby genuinely thought the amount of milk you already had was more than enough for what he believed it would be used for on the coming days, he had a right to speak up.

All he did was tell you to put it back (because he thought it was wasteful). Your correct response should have been "we typically have two coffees, three bowls of cereal, and five bowls of porridge, and that easily comes to the amount we have AND what I am adding here". Your response of "it's my choice" is actually more argumentative.

Less experienced .....did it ever occur to you that she can buy what she wants because she wants to and it's her choice 🙄

As for "telling" you don't tell your spouse to do anything. If mine had that attitude, especially in public he'd have been an ex a long time ago.

BeavisMcTavish · 12/10/2023 08:52

JingsMahBucket · 12/10/2023 07:46

@BeavisMcTavish read the OP’s posts. You can tap “See All” and just read hers alone in order to catch up.

Amazing,,, literally read again very slow to make sure it wasn’t me. The OP does not say she mentioned to her husband at all!

there maybe lies the issue in people assuming others are mind readers.

looks like the milk was a complete surprise to the husband!

(he’s still a knob of course for making a scene)

AfraidToRun · 12/10/2023 09:04

Busy at work is not a valid excuse to bark at your spouse.

Arrivederla · 12/10/2023 09:12

C1N1C · 12/10/2023 06:43

This has nothing to do with misogyny. I'd expect any partner/gender to do the same. The point is, OP didn't explain her reasoning, she just said 'tough sh!t'.

"Put 'x' back, we already have enough"

"No, actually you haven't taken into account a, b and c..."

"Oh OK, I was wrong, yep, let's get more".

The OP already stated she knew exactly how much she needed, so I don't understand why it would have been so difficult to say the above rather than 'tough, I'm getting it anyway'.

I think in this instance, it is as much about the OP (and many posters in here) feeling entitled, as it is the husband being 'controlling'. If this were a car... would your responses be the same?
-puts car in shopping basket-
"Put it back, we don't need another car"

"Ltb, your dp is so controlling!"

I actually pity some of the partners in here... Any partner is allowed to say no, man or woman, without fear of being called controlling. A healthy relationship is about discussion.

In truth, I think they're both in the wrong. Husband for saying a flat-out 'no' rather than "honey, do we actually need that much milk, I thought we had enough...?" ...and the OP for saying 'tough sh!t, I'm buying it anyway', rather than "yes dear, we normally have five cups of hot chocolate, teas and coffees, and 2 bowls of cereal... I think this is a sensible amount".

If you just bothered to read the OPs posts properly, you would see that she told him why she wanted the milk but he was playing with his phone and not listening.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/10/2023 09:17

@BeavisMcTavish - it's you.

I did tell him why but he was looking at his phone and obviously not paying attention. I said then why I was getting it too!

The first why being why they were going into the shop. She told him, as it turns out he evidently wasn't listening. Well sure, people who have their head in a phone rather than doing their companion the courtesy of listening to them may sometimes be surprised!

Arrivederla · 12/10/2023 09:19

BeavisMcTavish · 12/10/2023 08:52

Amazing,,, literally read again very slow to make sure it wasn’t me. The OP does not say she mentioned to her husband at all!

there maybe lies the issue in people assuming others are mind readers.

looks like the milk was a complete surprise to the husband!

(he’s still a knob of course for making a scene)

Yes it is you - the op says very clearly in 2 posts (at 21.51 and 23.28) that she told her husband outside the shop that she needed milk, and why.

Lindtislife · 12/10/2023 09:36

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