To be against the attacks on Palestine

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What happened in Israel was horrific by Hamas. But why are Palestinians being restricted, bombed, dehydrated and deprived of basic needs because of terrorists? Why is the world supporting Israel commiting war crimes?

Hamas are sick fucks to kill innocents. But it's like history repeating again. 9/11 caused millions of Iraqis killed for what?

Have we learned nothing from the past???

@Green777 "Do you think it’s possible to vacate 1.1 million (starved of food water and electricity) occupants from north to south in 24 hours under the circumstances and the state Gaza is in, with constant bombs raining down?"

With all the concrete-lined tunnels that Hamas have dug under the border fences over the years I think it is entirely possible to relocated many citizen into these 'bunkers' for safety.

At least the Gazans have got some warning, which is more than can be said for those in the Israeli kibbutzim.

100% agree with @Green777 I have posted lots of things as visual evidence on how Israel are acting. They have all conveniently been ignored. We haven't said that hamas aren't terrorists. We are saying Israel are targeting civilians on purpose and dressing it up as trying to get rid of hamas. But it's not really thr case is it!

@Tessofthebicyles

No it hasn’t worked for Netahanyu. Does that then mean his people that elected him deserve Hamas to massacre them?

In the same way the Palestinian civilians now deserve it bc they elected Hamas in 2006? Do they deserve to be killed bc the Israeli military failed them and didn’t heed to the warnings from Egyptian intelligence days before?

Doesn’t quite make sense does it.

@Dolphin1111111111111111111111111

Its a clear tactic being used to deflect how atrociously Israel is responding. Accusing people with any sympathy for the civilians as being people who support Hamas.

@Dolphin1111111111111111111111111

Its a clear tactic being used to deflect how atrociously Israel is responding. Accusing people with any sympathy for the civilians as being people who support Hamas.

No, not a lot of what you say makes much sense !

@Green777 100%

I am not pro hamas. I am however a Muslim and I will stand with my Muslim brothers and sisters. I do not condone any murder, rape, torture, starvation of any kind on any side. But I stand with the innocent civilians of palestine who have no defence and no future. This is genocide. You would think after ww2 the oppressed wouldn't ever think it was a good idea to become the oppressors!!

@Tessofthebicyles

Great answer 😉

@Green777

"Oh my god you are relentless!!!! "

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Thank you

"How many times do I have to say and it and does it have to be said? How many times will satisfy you? No one absolutely no one, and I’m repeating this for umpteenth time - is omitting that. Hamas are terrorists that don’t care about the civilians in Gaza. They are terrorists. "

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But you actually did omit the fact that Hamas have told the civilians to stay home and move south.

I also don't dispute the fact that you agree that Hamas are terrorists.

@Dolphin1111111111111111111111111

A lot of the world can see what’s going on and stand with you and the rest of peaceful Muslims

Wtaf? Terrorists aren't Muslim. A muslim.cant be terrorists.. if any one says they are committing murder in the name of God can not be Muslim. They can call themselves Muslim but they are not Muslim.

Do you just pick and choose which innocent civilians are worth more?

@Dolphin1111111111111111111111111

"We are saying Israel are targeting civilians on purpose and dressing it up as trying to get rid of hamas."

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The deliberate targeting of civilians with no military purpose would be a war crime. Also from a military perspective it would be pretty dumb as it only hardens resolve.

Do you have definitive evidence that the deaths of civilians we are now seeing in Gaza were by deliberate targeting (war crime) or were they innocent civilians killed in the course of targeting Hamas or military targets ( not a war crime).

Do you have evidence that they weren't deliberate? Israel saying it isn't deliberate isn't the same thing. Shock horror, people lie to justify what they are doing.

I'm leaving this thread now. You can't argue with ignorance. One day you will understand and regret the things you have said.

@Green777

So what bit of :

"I also don't dispute the fact that you agree that Hamas are terrorists."

do you think is a barefaced liar.

Or am I lying about your omission of the point of Hamas telling civilians to stay home.

You can throw insults all you like but it just shows that you have run out of a factual counter argument.

@Dolphin1111111111111111111111111 You said "Terrorists aren't Muslim. A muslim.cant be terrorists.. if any one says they are committing murder in the name of God can not be Muslim."

Really?

The Quran is replete with Surahs directing its followers to violence.

Some examples follow:

Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …"
Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)."
Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …"

@Dolphin1111111111111111111111111

"Do you have evidence that they weren't deliberate? Israel saying it isn't deliberate isn't the same thing. Shock horror, people lie to justify what they are doing."

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Absolutely no evidence that the Israeli army actions that killed civilians was or was not deliberate. The only ones that do know are the Israeli army and they are never going to disclose that.

Yes I realise that people lie on all sides but logically it would be a dumb move militarily to deliberately target civilians as you don't get any military benefit from it and you simply harden the resolve of other civilians.

Why would you stand with someone who completely denies that jihadist terrorism exists? 'They're not real muslims!' - repeat ad infinitum every single time. That's not a 'peaceful' thing to do, it's a standard apologist line.

@Tessofthebicyles which has been taken out of context. Have you read the whole surah or just cherry picked? Go back and read everything before cherry picking

It wasn't ignorance you were arguing with but factual evidence.

If any of my posts were factually incorrect then I am happy to receive counter evidence.

I've read all I need to read.

Seems pretty clear to me.

Hamas have made their 'raison d'etre' pretty clear.