To not want my 3 year old to come out of nursery telling me that Jesus died on the cross but came alive later?

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DS3 is 3 and goes to a nursery affiliated to the local church school. However, it is a nursery for all local schools, not just the church one. Even if he was going to the church school I would still think 3 is a bit young for this, but he is going to a different school. Do I just bite my tongue when he announces with absolute certainty what the Easter story is?

TEACHING= giving someone information
INDOCTRINATING= poisoning the minds of children to strap bombs to themselves and blow people up in the name of something posing as religion

Teaching is not just giving information, but also putting information in context and teaching people how to think about and weigh the "facts" they are given. Or should be.

or build illegal settlements, Kimi.

I like cut of young Blu boy's jib (gib? never known...).

teaching a three year old that it is a fact that Jesus died and rose again is indoctrination.
because teaching would be balanced and based in truth rather than belief.
teaching about Easter would be telling the children about an ancient pagan festival celebrating new life and spring, with bunnies and eggs as symbols of fertility. that the name Easter comes from Oestre (sp?) the great Saxon mother goddess and that many other cultures celebrate
it might also mention that Christian faiths merged their own celebrations of rebirth with these festivals, and that Christians believe that a man called Jesus was tortured and died a hideous death and then was born again. because prior to that their God would condemn them all to eternal damnation for their sins.
though why you would want to teach 3 year olds about torture and horrible death, and the viciousness of a vengeful god, I really don't know . unless of course it is to persuade them to believe one thing rather than another, or to influence their beliefs throiugh fear and gratitude

other cultures celebrate mother goddesses in the spring

If we get onto telling children before they do things about religion that they are possibly not true, but many people beleive it then it's going to get ridiculous.

Every lesson we may as well make them sign a disclaimer that says 'My teachers may at some point during this lesson read a story, that may or may not be real, it may cover Jesus, or Allah or other religious characters, it may contain animals that talk, or children that are magic or people that lived hundreds of years ago, but we must remember it may not be true.'

It's ridiculous, everything we are taught in history could be un-true, it's all based on other peoples recordings of events so where do we stop?

Just tell him it's a story, like all the other stories they are told.

it is a Church Of England Nursery and School. What do you expect?

DP#s family are Irish catholics, but DP is a staunch athiest.

We came back from a visit from Ireland last year with 2 crucifixes complete with a glow in the dark crucified christ.

it is a nursery for all local schools.
I really wouldn't expect indoctrination, no.
there is a heck of a difference between your average fictional story and the Easter story, in terms of significance.
it really is quite a violent and disturbing story tbh.
I am also not keen on the whole Flood story either, tbh, which gave dd1 horrible nightmares about everyone being drowned and dying under the water.

I don't think it is such a big deal- your child will not even remember this.
Like MT my dp was born and raise a Catholic and niether he nor his siblings are crazy christians or even particularly religious.

YANBU. It's a particularly nasty story, and shouldn't be presented to children as something that really happened, unless you are in a Sunday School, where parents send kids to learn AS christians. Any child upset by stories of bears and wolves would quickly be reassured that 'it's only a story'. What will the teacher say when children have nightmares about nails, scourging etc? Ok the nuresery is affilited to a church school. I would be fine with 'stories Jesus told to help us treat each other well' Christmas story can just be about the preciousness of a baby. Death and torture not appropriate- even at Easter.

I have to say I personally wouldnt label a child age 3 saying "Jesus died on the cross and came alive later" as indoctrination.
Seems like a good encapsulation of Easter to me.

If she came out saying that those who dont believe will go to hell, it may be more of a cause for concern, yes.

The amount of religious teaching/indoctrination (choose which you like) doesn't necessarily reflect beliefs held in later life.

lol you could say it was a long time ago, we don't do that anymore madlentil

I can't say I recall details of scourging at Sunday school.

I blame Mel Gibson's Passion of christ for that one.

A person faith/belief is a personal think, my mother is lapsed catholic my father a non believer I was left to make up my own mind, I went to church, to Sunday school because I wanted to, I was baptized and confirmed as an adult, nobody indoctrinated me, I was delighted when DS1 said he felt he was ready for his conformation but I would not push either of my children to stay in the faith if they did not want to.

A glow-in-the-dark Christ would be very useful during powercuts.

Instead of "Oh, Christ, where are the matches?" we'd be saying, "Oh, Christ, where's the Christ?"

I'm considering a glow in the dark crucified bunny for this year's easter bonnet competition. That would fit with the school topic of electricity and circuits too. How could they not award a prize for that?

pmsl at Blu's ds.

I love Easter. I particularly like the fact that there are layers of pre-Christian, Christian and post-Christian* tradition running through it. The Christian part is a bit gory in place, but that's life.

*re post-Christian traditions - just been into Paperchase and I must say they have some quite divine Easter tat in this year.

unquietdad

That's why we say "may the light of the lord always be with you", unquiet dad

I love Easter/springtime too- it is a fascinating time of year, so much history, breathtaking changes in nature, it is beautiful

It is not a vicious story of a vengeful God-you are missing the main message entirely!!

They must have mentioned it at sunday school, PV or I wouldn't have heard of it...isn't it one of the stations of the cross? We had a similar thing whenn DDs were in reception (at state school) they came home quoting some christian belief as if it were fact...can't remember what it was. They had a student teacher at the time, and I was quite pissed off, but said to her, 'hah, hah, you'll never guess what they said, they said you told them it really happened, of course I said you MUST have said SOME PEOPLE believe that...'