David Beckham

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Enjoyed watching the documentary, he was different than I expected him to be, not sure how really, but I have more respect for Victoria now as I think their lives have been about what he wanted/needed mainly
There are rumours of lots of affairs, is this true though as I find that hard to believe, he seemed so obsessed with her

She was way more famous than him when they met. He wouldn’t have been as successful off the pitch without her.

I really enjoyed it.

I've never taken that much notice of them and was totally unaware of just how world famous they are and how they still get followed all the time.

I have total respect for David for how he coped with the hatred after the World Cup, to live through that and turn it round to get people to support him again takes some determination and guts.

And also to continue to train at Real Madrid after they said they'd never play him again. He's obviously very stubborn and when he decides he's going to do something, he does it.

It made me feel old, seeing all the old footage of them, and seeing how old David looks now. Loved Victoria's input, she's an amazing strong woman.

Also I was so shocked at how Glen Hoddle and then other football pundits put so much blame onto David.

That footage of Glen really doesn't age well.

They went to penalties and they lost, but they blamed a 23 year old.

Nothing about Hoddle has aged well. Especially the comment that the disabled are paying the price for sins they committed in a previous life. Disgusting man. I was surprised to see him on the documentary as he's been persona non grata (quite rightly) for so long after that comment that lost him his job.

I simply don't agree.

She was the more famous one originally, especially for non football fans. Pretty much everyone knew who she was back then, much more so than him. These same people have grown up still knowing her, and him. Even children these days will have heard Spice Girl songs - go to a kid's disco party and you hear it played.

They are both in the limelight now as they both work to keep their names there, with social media and outside interests, beyond the spice girls and Manchester United years. Their social media activity is probably the key aspect these days.

And why not - if it keeps them happy and busy, let them get in with it. It's easy enough to ignore if you don't like them.

@BreadInCaptivity so what? It's a chat about the documentary. I'm allowed to post my thoughts. So what if I did 🤷🏻‍♀️

Glen Hoddle- what a freak!

Victoria was the more famous one of the two, but once the Spice Girls broke up the star of the respective members started to fade and a few of them, most noticeably Geri, Mel B and Victoria were a bit stuck weren't they? Having had such enormous fame, how were they now to retain it?

Victoria retained hers through David. By allying her star to his, she retained her celebrity fame and influence. It was a very fortuitous match for both of them. Of course there was love there, but it also neatly solved that issue of 'what next' for Victoria.

Also Victoria was the only Spice Girl with a useful descriptor of 'posh' (Baby, or Scary are hardly aspirational) which, unlike the others, she could continue to maximise on. Unfortunately, she leaned into it very hard, and went from a smiling, relatable girl-next-door-made-good-type, who would even wear high street fashion, (someone ordinary women could see themselves in), into a sort of high fashion, ultra-elite caricature, of celebrity- ultra lean, unable to smile, plastic surgery, aloof persona, posing formally every single time she's papped and I suspect she's a bit compulsive about her pictures.

Hate is too strong a word. People don't hate her. They just don't like what appears overly curated and disingenuous. People feel far less animosity overall towards the other ex spice girl members, who have remained relatable.

I admire how they've built their brand and very much respect the courage it took for Victoria to start her own fashion house. That is really impressive, whether her father owned a Rolls-Royce or not.

If the rumours of (alleged) multiple cheating since the Loos scandal are true, then I really feel for her. I can't imagine any man who witnessed his wife being publicly humiliated once, would risk bringing such to her again.

That said, I suspect, like the Smiths, they have an agreement and she's content with the status quo and non-disclosures and super injunctions are used to solve problems. Some women really don't care about cheating as long as they never witness it and that's their prerogative.

@Bimblebore Yes exactly what you said. I agree again. The affairs are none of our business either way. It is for Victoria and David to decide what works for them. It is their private business. Personally I wish them all the best.

I’m pretty certain Victoria had a number plate with POSH I remember seeing it around as her parents lived in the next village to me. Well I assume it was hers! It was on a Mercedes I think.

I think fair play to them for managing to have what appears to be a happy family life. Marriage is a marathon, not a sprint.
How is it that if DB had all these alleged affairs no one other than Rebecca Loos has come out with it?

What I don't agree with is how they've put their kids out in the spotlight. Look at Harper, she is set up to be judged by the media at such a young age. And the media will do it savagely. That I don't get. Even the way Harper was dressed the other night at the premiere of their show. Lovely little girl but why put her out there.

I do agree to an extent about elite athletes. Everything and everyone in their lives comes second, I've read so many sports biographies and they all seem the same. It's that tunnel vision and focus that gives them the edge that sets them apart. Very hard for their families.

Oh Gary Neville is fab but I've always had a soft spot for the Neville brothers, used to prefer Phil back in the day. Gary has a few shows with Roy Keane, very funny and he comes across so lovely. Lucky woman Mrs. Neville, not a hint of scandal about him.

I'd love to hear what Roy Keane and Fergie really thinks of the Beckhams, now that would be funny!!! 😂

Haven’t read through the whole thread and haven’t yet watched the whole documentary but I think it’s brilliant so far.

I remember the absolutely vile way he was treated by the press and fans after his sending off during the World Cup. That episode was so painful to watch. I hope those who vilified him now hang their heads in shame!

What strength of character he must have had to continue to play, match after match, being booed and threatened. A resilience his Dad drummed into him (often not in a good way though) from an early age.

Thank goodness he did have Victoria and his team mates supporting him. The way he eventually turned it around was amazing and at such a young age too!

Remember when Posh got the lawyers in to prevent Peterborough United from using and registering their "the posh" nickname they'd had since 1934 🙄.

I agree, so called football fans and their abuse of him was just horrendous. Some of them are so fickle and nasty. It's only bloody football and no human deserves that level of abuse, more shame them.

You’re 100% correct - how anyone can disagree is beyond me.

Yes, OCD is really funny isn't it? 😂🙄

Another one who thought Gary Neville came off really well. Him getting heckled in the street for wearing a fancy scarf and shouting back "Whatcha talking about it's a bloody hoody" was my favourite moment of the whole series. He comes across as loyal and honest.

I've come across him through work, what with him owning half of Manchester these days. He's someone who genuinely cares about Manchester and it's people.

I noted the lack of Ryan Giggs.

Also thought Beckham came across as quite selfish. Missing a C-section because he had a photo shoot, making his family upend repeatedly, the non-denial of the affair.

I also noted the comment where Harper was eating at the end and David said "you know you can eat what you want" in a way that said "I can't cope with another woman in my life being crazy about food".

Watched it and enjoyed it - was interesting to see Victoria be someone completely different to who I assumed she was.

Met DB once, once was enough. Didn’t like him or the way he acted at all. He was how I expected him to be when edited though missing his wife’s c-section did reinforce the way he seemed when I met him.

Totally!

I can just imagine DB coming along with his dandy outfits or a daft car and Gary giving it the full ‘WTF Dave’.
Like when one of his friends said of his LA party, Stevie Wonder got up to sing and he thought ‘we’ve lost him now’.
It’s good to still be friends with a no nonsense lot. Even if Gary does own half of Manchester!

I observed a definite shift in brand Beckham when they moved to LA and thought Victoria came across very disingenuous in the doc.
All this "I just wanted to be in safe place and provide a safe home/school for my kids - LA could provide all of that", bollocks.

As for the faux surprise at all the attention they attracted 🙄
The money, the parties, the schmoozing - they (or certainly she) knew exactly what they were doing.

I don't follow the beckhams at all & haven't seen the documentary but you're spot on. Reportedly they're a very genuine couple and very nice to everyone they meet and I have no reason to think otherwise, but they're also very successful social climbers..Nothing wrong with that but you'd have to be daft to think it's all a happy accident. Look at how Beckham reacted when he found out he still wasn't on the honours list - they are obviously agitating for one.

I really enjoyed it and you can tell the level of respect he holds/held in his career with the members of his teams over the years willing to take part in it.

I thought Victoria came across really well and could understand her frustration with having to keep moving around with hardly any consultation. She definitely helped his star rise and his profile.

I can’t get over the fact Gary Neville’s dad is called Neville.

Neville Neville your face is a mess.

Yes, I might have been Googling…😳

I’ve just had to google too as I couldn’t quite believe it! Wonder what made his parents decide that no other name would do!

Found this on wiki though 😁