David Beckham

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Enjoyed watching the documentary, he was different than I expected him to be, not sure how really, but I have more respect for Victoria now as I think their lives have been about what he wanted/needed mainly
There are rumours of lots of affairs, is this true though as I find that hard to believe, he seemed so obsessed with her

Are some people not actually old enough to really realise the cultural phenomenon that was the Spice Girls?

As someone who was in their 20s at the time - and who lived on the other side of the world - Victoria Adams was a household name. I’d never heard of David Beckham.

She was famous worldwide. He was, as we’d say down our way, ‘world famous in the UK’.

He was a (very talented) UK footballer. While that made him a God in the UK, it wasn’t all that significant outside it.

Then they got together, and as a couple, were greater than the sum of their parts. She made him world famous.

Except he very much wasn’t able to, was he?

If it were me, I would have undoubtedly waited until after the game to say anything.

How was it helpful for him to know then, and not two hours later?

All he clearly wanted, was to then be with VB. He was distracted, pure and simple.

No not just you.

Not just his face either. Pretty sure he has had a hair transplant.

But so what really? Up to him.

I've only skimmed this thread because the vitriolic posts leave me feeling ill. But.

I am of the Posh & Becks era. The Spice Girls were huge, waay more famous than David Beckham. So to whoever it was saying Victoria Beckham was a nobody, that is ignorant, rude and just so off the mark.

What I don't understand is the level of hatred for either/both of them. I remember in the early days some people complained that Victoria didn't smile. I actually went to the Spice Girls movie and it was fun, she was a laugh. I remember she said she didn't like her mouth and felt like it looked worse when she smiled. So the non-smiling is born out of insecurity.

I think what lots of English people don't get is just how famous the Beckhams are. They have both been at the forefront of fashion for decades now and actually wave the tourism flag for Britain in a way that you probably don't appreciate. They are iconic in status, and I remember thinking early in their marriage that they would probably last as they both seemed close to their families and had both experienced mega fame at a young age.

I'm impressed by the way they have kept their own children close, and I have enjoyed seeing photos of their family growing up.

People calling them thick, stupid, greedy, vain etc - do you realise how ugly you sound? They're out there living the good life and succeeding in every aspect while you type mean words on your phone.

There are few celebrities I feel this way about. For example, I had an instinctual loathing for Russell Brand from the moment I became aware of him. I have a dislike of Sarah Ferguson for her haughtiness and I always thought Queen Elizabeth was a very good queen. Of course, I have never met any of them and I appreciate that others will disagree with me.

But the Beckhams? I feel like they do a lot for England and are basically abused for being working class and it's gross.

What a horrible, bitchy thread.

Smacks of jealousy that a couple have been able to make a marriage work.

Contrary to what some on N believe, some marriages actually do survive affairs, and there is absolutely no basis other than gossipmongering to believe that he has had numerous affairs or that he fathered another child. As for saying they’re actually separated, what a crock of shit.

Do none of you people read social media? You do know that 99% of shit that is posted on there is bollocks posted for clicks and likes?

So they’ve ade a success of their lives and their marriage. What’s it to you?

I've only seen the 'Rolls Royce' clip and I think it made him come across as an arsehole. I hate it when couples publicly undermine each other. If I was talking shit like that, I'd hate it if my DH did that. I wouldn't do it to him either.

I surprisingly really enjoyed it.

Each to their own but I think Victoria would not entertain the idea of breaking up the children’s family.

I also think David came across as a selfish man.

I thought Victoria looked great.

I really enjoyed it , binge watched and really glad they stayed together and seem happy , thought it was quite touching and reminded me of what was a golden era of watching football and going to games for me.
The abuse that he got after the World Cup and how he dealt with it shocked me the most , I think Victoria has always been his rock and safe place.

What's 'pure and simple' about it?
Where's the proof he was distracted?
He got sent off due to a moment of anger/frustration, not doing something in a moment of distraction.

Also wasn't he left on the bench in the games before that? So he couldn't have been in top form anyway

I thought that came across as a jokey moment between them, rather than undermining.

Years ago a woman did a tabloid kiss and tell about sleeping with Beckham. She alleged that Beckham praised her figure saying that VB was skin and bone and that because of that he didn’t fancy her.

It was a complete amateur mistake.

And unbelievable of her to tell him minutes before a game like that. It couldn’t have waited 2 hours?

How must he have felt going out there with that life-changing news in his head, and unable to be with her? Not on his top game, clearly.

@Bimblebore I 100% agree with you.

So much of the hatred against them seems to me to be good old fashioned British classism.

Some people just hate to see working class people confidently doing so well.

(Although I suspect he did cheat and therefore their marriage is not perfect but 2 minutes on Mumsnet will show you that hardly makes then unique!)

I'll watch now. All I know about them is that she only has fish and veg for tea and even Gordon Ramsay was astounded at how that never changes, whereas David is quite a foodie.

Was this the 'Nanny' when they were living in Spain or somewhere?
I vividly remember reading a Kiss and Tell on him in The Sunday Mirror (after the Rebecca Loos story)
She was a young blonde woman.
The story was completely buried, never referred to again anywhere (guessing I missed a tiny apology the following week?)

Lawyers at work obviously.

But I always remembered it.

@Whatafustercluck - condescending? Nope, that's my opinion. In the women's World Cup a few weeks ago the Spanish footballer who scored the winning goal had lost her father a few days before & she wasn't told until after the final. That's how it works. My grandfather died when I was doing exams at University & I wasn't told until I'd finished. That's what normal people do. It's not difficult to understand.

I really like VB, she comes across as funny and obviously loves her family very much. I do struggle with why she’d want her family on show when they will spend their lives being scrutinised.

Whether he cheated or not is no-one else's business. Ultimately they are human and fallible, but God love them for making the best of their lives and talents.

What you describe are negative life events. That's very different to this scenario. And from your final sentence, I can see that you are indeed always that condescending.

I watched Stick to football podcast that Gary Neville does yesterday and DB was a quest. He said he'd always planned to do a documentary 10 years after he retired.

They used to live near me. My local M&S they were often in there. They were always surrounded by people wanting autographs. They’d stand there for up to an hour sometimes signing them. Never complained from what I saw.

I have friends who know VB as she grew up local to me. They say she has a great sense of humour and hates her mouth so doesn’t smile in public. One of my dcs is the same - I have no photos of them smiling and it makes me sad at times.

I also know quite a few people who have stayed while the other has strayed. No one knows what really goes on in a marriage.

I'm really enjoying the documentary and like both of them.

Years ago on here VB was the Meghan Markle of her generation. Thread after thread every time she was seen in public or the latest story popped up in the red tops.

Am also definitely old enough to remember the Spice Girls stratospheric rise to fame (and I shook my head saying wtf is happening to British music 😂) while DB at the time was A.N.Other footballer.

God knows how they have done it. Hats off to them. They are surviving together in the face of adversity.

Keeping huge news from people like that is not normal

@Whatafustercluck - they had been together for a year, he was 23 on the biggest stage in the World under immense pressure. She had absolutely no need to tell him the moment she found out. Call me condescending all you want.