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To want to take my 12kg dog in the plane cabin

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BettyBoomer · 30/09/2023 12:13

I’m going to Europe this summer and I’d like to take my dog but I dont want to put the dog in the hold. There are a number of airlines that allow dogs in the cabin if they are under 10kg (KLM, AirFrance, ITA air).

does anyone know of an airline from UK to Europe that would take a 12kg dog?

thanks!

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BlurredEdges · 30/09/2023 15:19

sleepyscientist · 30/09/2023 15:08

@ASCCM nope the person with the allergy should get the next flight as they are the one with an issue. I'm allergic to plants, perfumes, cats etc Like most people with similar allergies it's atopic so sneezing, coughing and skin rashes. I would just drop a few extra antihistamines and get on with it.

If someone is anaphylatic to dogs they are also going to react to the dog hair on my clothes so doubt they would want to sit next to me.

I would love to see dogs allowed on planes even if that meant cats were allowed

Who knew there was a way to make plane travel even more shitty than it is already? 🙄

StowOnTheWold · 30/09/2023 15:21

A little terrier on a long haul flight might come in handy. Humping a lower leg or two of random passengers might improve blood circulation and prevent DVT.

rasellagirl · 30/09/2023 15:24

LOL at sitting by a falcon

2jacqi · 30/09/2023 15:26

You can take your car and drive through the channel tunnel. It is probably easier than even relying on planes because your stuff will always be thrown in the car. you can see the sights easier and there is nothing better than driving through the alps or stopping at lake garda for a coffee just because you can!! many hotels accept dogs too!

Barnowlsandbluebells · 30/09/2023 15:35

SnowflakeCity · 30/09/2023 13:41

Not really relevant but I saw a tiktok the other day of someone in the US flying with his great dane beside him. It would make my flight to be sat near such a good boy.

I'm always delighted to be seated next to a dog on US domestics

topnoddy · 30/09/2023 15:38

smallshinybutton · 30/09/2023 12:50

Is your dog an assistance dog?

Of course it will be !!

Stands to reason don't it

FarEast · 30/09/2023 15:41

YABU totally. How selfish to subject all the other passengers to several hours in a confined space with a medium-sized dog. The smell, the hair, - what about those who are allergic to or scared of dogs?

DisquietintheRanks · 30/09/2023 15:44

UnctuousUnicorns · 30/09/2023 14:55

Clearly a dog that hasn't been toilet trained, with a dickish owner, then. 🙄

And no dickish owner would ever try and take their dog on a flight...

lazymum99 · 30/09/2023 15:51

Many airlines flying out of the uk allow dogs in the cabin. Dog and crate have to weigh less than 8kg. The dog cannot come out of the crate during the flight and it has to be a specific crate allowed by the airline.
I know people who regularly do this out of Heathrow. One couple have 2 dogs but the airline only allows one per flight, so they go separately.
the return is a nightmare. Cannot fly with dog in cabin into the UK. Has to go in hold. So these people fly to Paris, get a car to meet them and get driven to the euroshuttle and across. Very very expensive.

lazymum99 · 30/09/2023 15:52

The Eurostar does not allow dogs. So either ferry or car on shuttle

JudgeJ · 30/09/2023 15:54

AnonyLonnymouse · 30/09/2023 13:04

Oh dear god, this is a thing?!

I can think of any number of issues.

We'll hopefully not go down the American route where people can take all kinds of animals in a plane because they are 'support animals', supporting so-called anxiety and so on. The only support dogs should be certified dogs for those with eye-sight difficulties, anything else is just a prop.

ShagratandGorbag4ever · 30/09/2023 15:54

FarEast · 30/09/2023 15:41

YABU totally. How selfish to subject all the other passengers to several hours in a confined space with a medium-sized dog. The smell, the hair, - what about those who are allergic to or scared of dogs?

I don't mind provided that I can have my emotional support tarantulas, Boris and Nadine, on my lap during the flight.

Notagains · 30/09/2023 15:54

MyDogTails · 30/09/2023 14:07

Truly baffled by this notion.
Someone in my family is allergic to dogs. Does that mean they’d be forced to sit beside a dog for a (say) 3 hour flight?
We need to stop treating dogs as children.

This

margotrose · 30/09/2023 15:55

JudgeJ · 30/09/2023 15:54

We'll hopefully not go down the American route where people can take all kinds of animals in a plane because they are 'support animals', supporting so-called anxiety and so on. The only support dogs should be certified dogs for those with eye-sight difficulties, anything else is just a prop.

What about hearing dogs, or medical alert dogs? Surely they're just as essential as seeing-eye dogs.

Andrea87 · 30/09/2023 15:58

Some people seem to think it’s ok to bring their dog anywhere nowadays.
Recently there was one (badly behaved too) in the doctor’s waiting room. I am baffled - how can a doctor talk to/ examine a patient in peace when this lolloping dog runs all round the room?

As for planes - lots of animals go in a crate in the hold, this has been done for many years. It is important to get them used to the crate beforehand and I understand they are looked after well before the flight.

NeedTheSeaside · 30/09/2023 15:59

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@YayGoMe

Speak for yourself. You have no idea what 'pretty much everyone' wants!

I'd be more than happy to have it sit next to (on) me.

@BettyBoomer I've flown a lot & never seen a dog in the cabin. I'd like it if it was more common, hate thinking of them in the hold.

best of luck finding one that'll let you!!

Ascendant15 · 30/09/2023 16:01

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Then you are discriminatory. My assistance dog literally detects my heart stopping. That's "bullshit" is it? He is not an emotional support animal, he is a registered and trained assistance dog. Your comment is disgusting and offensive.

For those people discussing allergies, realistically, if an allergy is so severe that being in the same "airspace " as a dog will cause severe problems, then that person will struggle everyday and everywhere. Dog owners abound, and even a few stray hairs on the passenger opposite or next to you would set of the allergic reaction. It is practically impossible to ban anyone who had been near a dog from flying.

Ascendant15 · 30/09/2023 16:06

JudgeJ · 30/09/2023 15:54

We'll hopefully not go down the American route where people can take all kinds of animals in a plane because they are 'support animals', supporting so-called anxiety and so on. The only support dogs should be certified dogs for those with eye-sight difficulties, anything else is just a prop.

And again... there is no such thing as a "certified dog" in the UK; and it's really offensive to describe someone as having "eye- sight difficulties"; and there are many kinds of legitimate assistance dogs.

Dear God, the level of ignorance and offensiveness on disability just never gets old on this site.

AnotherBritInTheUSA · 30/09/2023 16:06

I live in the US and the rights of the dog owner with disabilities absolutely trump those of people with allergies, even if those allergies could make them seriously unwell. It would be against the law (Americans with Disabilities Act) for the airline to ask the dog owner to leave the plane

CrazyHamsterLady · 30/09/2023 16:09

Can you let me know what flight you’re on so I can avoid it 🤮 I don’t want a slobbery yapping dog on a plane, yuk.

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/09/2023 16:11

There are two ways.

1/ The dog is an assistance dog that fits in front of your seat AND you can document significant training that means your dog is suitable to fly. This in practice is really bloody difficult and usually means you've worked with your dog in airports and on simulated flights/training plane set ups and have letters of approval, video evidence etc. Hard to achieve but some have.

2/ You charter a private flight or space on one that permits dogs. This is quite expensive but is the preferred option for some of my private clients flying to unusual places. However even then, depending on the rules of the destination country, it still may not be possible, no matter how many millions you have.

I would suggest you drive/ferry/train, its a lot nicer for your dog anyway and much easier for you to meet your dogs needs during the journey.

Hatesf1 · 30/09/2023 16:19

ffs no you can’t do this

FarEast · 30/09/2023 16:23

How does it work with an assistance dog, especially those who assist the visually impaired? A lab or golden retriever (common breeds for dogs for the partially sighted or blind) are large dogs. They’d need a seat for themselves wouldn’t they?

I fly a lot but I’ve never seen any kind of animal (non-human, that is) in the cabin.

Boomboom22 · 30/09/2023 16:24

How horrific for other passengers to be confronted with a dog. What if they are allergic? Or terrified as I'd expect 25% of people would be seeing something like that great dane on a fflight. Maybe consider pet ownership and holidays together rather than expect everyone else to accept your beast. That goes for Cornwall too.

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