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To want to take my 12kg dog in the plane cabin

377 replies

BettyBoomer · 30/09/2023 12:13

I’m going to Europe this summer and I’d like to take my dog but I dont want to put the dog in the hold. There are a number of airlines that allow dogs in the cabin if they are under 10kg (KLM, AirFrance, ITA air).

does anyone know of an airline from UK to Europe that would take a 12kg dog?

thanks!

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NeedToChangeName · 30/09/2023 17:39

MyDogTails · 30/09/2023 14:07

Truly baffled by this notion.
Someone in my family is allergic to dogs. Does that mean they’d be forced to sit beside a dog for a (say) 3 hour flight?
We need to stop treating dogs as children.

@MyDogTails I thought this too

Not allergic, but scared of dogs. I wouldn't cope well sitting next to a dog

ChesterDrawz · 30/09/2023 17:40

BettyBoomer · 30/09/2023 16:57

Actually, it IS a thing. And I just LOVE that you hate it. So I WILL be doing it 😘

Vile.

Flickersy · 30/09/2023 17:40

LadyGrinningSoul85 · 30/09/2023 17:38

To answer the OP, and NRTFT.

Have you maybe thought about what other passengers 'want'?
I know I wouldn't want your bloody dog, or anyone else's for that matter, anywhere near me.

I swear dog owners are getting more entitled by the day.

But it's not about what you or anyone else wants. It's about what the airline allows. If the airline allows OP to take a dog, she can. If it doesn't, she can't. Anything else is irrelevant.

Blackandwhitemakesgrey · 30/09/2023 17:41

sleepyscientist · 30/09/2023 16:51

It would take two seconds to clean up, if it became normal to take dogs you could just have puppy pads

Even after picking up poo, the poo bags still smell very bad. Plus our dog has digestive problems so it isn’t always easy to pick up without leaving some behind. Bad enough on grass…..

Boomboom22 · 30/09/2023 17:41

This is why we have the problems with dogs and why therapy wouldn't/ doesn't help.
Vile nasty owners who when they hear they might cause death by analyphalactic shock or scare people say good, I want to do that.
Bully owners.

Boomboom22 · 30/09/2023 17:42

Flickersy · 30/09/2023 17:40

But it's not about what you or anyone else wants. It's about what the airline allows. If the airline allows OP to take a dog, she can. If it doesn't, she can't. Anything else is irrelevant.

So you only ever follow the law to the letter and no social niceties or norms, no consideration of other humans at all. Nice.

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/09/2023 17:48

BettyBoomer · 30/09/2023 16:59

Yes you can. Costs £75. They have to be in a dog carrier.

Mmmm... carrier that must fit under the seat. Which yours won't.

BettyBoomer · 30/09/2023 17:50

LadyGrinningSoul85 · 30/09/2023 17:38

To answer the OP, and NRTFT.

Have you maybe thought about what other passengers 'want'?
I know I wouldn't want your bloody dog, or anyone else's for that matter, anywhere near me.

I swear dog owners are getting more entitled by the day.

Nope. Haven’t thought what the passengers want! 😂

just like no-one else thinks about passengers when their bratty kids kick seats, or bawling newborns travel in first class, or when chavvy Brits get drunk, or when youths play they’re videos without headphones, or parents allow kids to watch iPads without headphones and I have to listen to Peppa Bloody Pig for 2 hours.

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BettyBoomer · 30/09/2023 17:51

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/09/2023 17:48

Mmmm... carrier that must fit under the seat. Which yours won't.

Yeah the carrier does fit under the seat. So it’s not a problem. But thanks for mentioning that. I appreciate your help.

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HisNibs · 30/09/2023 17:53

Which airline does 12kg in the cabin then? (and flies to Europe)

ŁadnaPogoda · 30/09/2023 17:54

I have a friend who flew with her “emotional support animal”, aka her pet dog, in the cabin. He was stressed and did a massive wee in the aisle during the flight, which was nice for everyone on board.

Blackandwhitemakesgrey · 30/09/2023 17:55

BettyBoomer · 30/09/2023 17:51

Yeah the carrier does fit under the seat. So it’s not a problem. But thanks for mentioning that. I appreciate your help.

Will your dog be comfortable in a small carrier for quite a few hours by the time you queue on both sides as well ? My dog would be very very scared of the plane noise and would be likely to cry a lot….. I wouldn’t take him for that reason.

rollonretirementfgs · 30/09/2023 17:56

No no no and no

Flickersy · 30/09/2023 17:56

Boomboom22 · 30/09/2023 17:42

So you only ever follow the law to the letter and no social niceties or norms, no consideration of other humans at all. Nice.

There is a lot of generally inconsiderate behaviour I don't like.

People playing music without headphones on buses. People who don't maintain basic personal hygiene. People who eat smelly food on a busy train.

The thing is, they're allowed to do that. And if I have a problem with it, I'm the one who needs to move or put up with it. I might like eating food to be banned on a train but until it is, I need to accept people will eat food on trains.

I don't demand other people who are just going about their business within the rules bend to accommodate my personal whims.

Lovemusic82 · 30/09/2023 17:56

I don’t fly but I would be tempted if I could sit next to a dog instead of a human 😁.

I can see it being a problem but if you have an allergy or fear of dogs I’m guessing you wouldn’t book a flight on a plane that’s classed as ‘dog friendly’, I think there are in lot certain flights that allow dogs?

jenpil · 30/09/2023 17:58

Boomboom22 · 30/09/2023 17:42

So you only ever follow the law to the letter and no social niceties or norms, no consideration of other humans at all. Nice.

Aviation rules are about the law, and NOT about social niceties or norms.

Sausagenbacon · 30/09/2023 17:59

When we took the ferry to Eire, our dog had to go in a crate in a special area.
Which is fine by me, but then I try not to be an entitled t**t

Womencanlift · 30/09/2023 18:06

BettyBoomer · 30/09/2023 17:10

See below, which is KLM. Dog has to be 8kg or less.

So glad you posted this OP. Good to know they allow this so I know not to fly with KLM. Will also make me check other airlines too.

Thanks for the heads up 👍

CakeInAJar · 30/09/2023 18:07

God it would be my worst nightmare having a dog on the plane, under your feet and barking. Why do airlines allow this? What about people with allergies?

jenpil · 30/09/2023 18:08

Tryingmybestadhd · 30/09/2023 14:41

Do you realise people have assistance dogs for other things ? My young nephew has a supprt dog that detects epilepsy and asks help , my friend has a dog as she is dead and the dog is trained to aid her .there are dogs to help with autism and keep the owners from danger too .
Your ableism is disgusting !

It's not ableism....people don't want to be travelling in and seated amongst a living zoo.
If any "assistance" dog is accepted on the owners say so, then it won't be long before cats, rats, parrots and all manner of other animals are too.

The UK needs to have an official database of authorised guide dogs and official assistance dogs, then the situation can be managed more effectively.

Ippdippdoo · 30/09/2023 18:08

I can find Air Baltic but that’s 12kg including the carrier, which airline is it OP?

HisNibs · 30/09/2023 18:08

Some European airlines allow dogs in the cabin providing they're small enough but... no airline (UK or otherwise) is allowed to fly a dog into the UK in the cabin. Going to be very costly for the return journey. Flying a 12kg dog in the cabin (in a crate) both ways? Bullshit - nice try.

bluebeck · 30/09/2023 18:11

jenpil · 30/09/2023 18:08

It's not ableism....people don't want to be travelling in and seated amongst a living zoo.
If any "assistance" dog is accepted on the owners say so, then it won't be long before cats, rats, parrots and all manner of other animals are too.

The UK needs to have an official database of authorised guide dogs and official assistance dogs, then the situation can be managed more effectively.

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Speak for yourself! I would much rather share a plane with lots of different animals than a lot of babies and children. Most adults too now I come to think of it 😂

HisNibs · 30/09/2023 18:11

HisNibs · 30/09/2023 18:08

Some European airlines allow dogs in the cabin providing they're small enough but... no airline (UK or otherwise) is allowed to fly a dog into the UK in the cabin. Going to be very costly for the return journey. Flying a 12kg dog in the cabin (in a crate) both ways? Bullshit - nice try.

Service dogs are an exception of course (for most airlines)