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To not give him the money

130 replies

Dodobirds · 30/09/2023 11:09

I run my own business and I have a bit of a long distance thing with a man in the same industry (although entirely different jobs). It’s just a casual, fun thing when we’re in the same country (he lives in Australia).

I do a lot better financially than he does because of the nature of our jobs.

We had been talking about him coming to visit for a couple of weeks and I said I’d pay for his ticket.

He then asked if I’d pay for it at a certain time of year, so he could go on from the U.K. to Paris, to see some friends for their birthdays.

I was ok with that and asked if, in return, he’d help put me in touch with a couple of people that he knew in the industry, which he did, immediately.

I’ve not booked the ticket yet but two things have changed since he asked me:

  1. He has now said he’ll only actually come to visit for 2 days and then go straight to meet his friends, which makes me feel like he’s just wanting a free ticket to see his mates, really.

  2. I got hit with a huge, unexpected expense related to my house and am worried about my own finances.

I’m unsure what to do now. I have to see him again in a couple of weeks at ann industry event so I can’t really just cut ties with him, but I don’t really want to pay for his ticket now!

I am aware I said I would though and that he helped me out with those contacts.

OP posts:
AgnesX · 30/09/2023 13:26

Can you offer him a percentage as a gesture to cover the introduction..... explaining your financial situation not that he's only spending 2 days with you and it's not that you're miffed in any way.

He must have some awareness that he's taking the mickey a bit.

IslandsInTheSunshine · 30/09/2023 13:28

Well, sorry but it's clear he's just not into you.
If he's travelling halfway round the world to see you and can only give you 2 days, read the room, as they say.

I'd call the whole thing off. You never have to see him again.

Don't pay for his fares and find another FWB closer to home.

TellingBone · 30/09/2023 13:29

Glad you've told him. I was going to suggest offering to buy him a one way ticket. See how he likes them apples. 😂

IslandsInTheSunshine · 30/09/2023 13:32

Pleased to see your update.

He was just using you.

In principle, you shouldn't pay for any man to spend time with you.
Unless they are a paid-for escort and it's a business deal.

Nanaof1 · 30/09/2023 13:40

Dodobirds · 30/09/2023 11:36

when it was supposed to be a fun couple of weeks together, I was ok with it. I’d have gone to see him but I couldn’t find a window of time, so it just made more sense for him to come here.

Now it feels like I’m paying him for sex though!

It‘s not that I care enough about him to have a desperate need to have him around for 2 weeks, but 2 days feels like an insult. I’d rather be didn’t come at all.

Edited

The last paragraph is what you need to tell him. "I was willing to pay for your ticket when the plan was for you to spend two weeks here. To pay for your ticket when you only plan to spend two days with me is an insult and I rather you didn't come at all than to come for 2 days."

If he gets angry, so be it. HE changed the plans, so you can also change yours (paying for his ticket).

Mirabai · 30/09/2023 13:42

Thebigblueballoon · 30/09/2023 11:39

Ah right. Tricky one because the goalposts have moved. Two days is a bit of an insult if you agreed on two weeks together. But you did offer and he’s done you a favour with those contacts.
I’d stick by the suggestion to offer half like pp’s. If he takes issue with that, you’ve got a flag right there.

Bollocks to this. Only women would ever think there was any financial obligation in this case.

OP his passing you on a couple of contacts doesn’t mean you have to fork out half his plane fare now you have financial issues and he is taking the piss.

It was a crazy thing to offer to start with.

Just say no. He would never do it for you. And I’m sure you can furnish him with contacts, work benefits in the future.

Mirabai · 30/09/2023 13:45

Nanaof1 · 30/09/2023 13:40

The last paragraph is what you need to tell him. "I was willing to pay for your ticket when the plan was for you to spend two weeks here. To pay for your ticket when you only plan to spend two days with me is an insult and I rather you didn't come at all than to come for 2 days."

If he gets angry, so be it. HE changed the plans, so you can also change yours (paying for his ticket).

You don’t even need to say that. Just say: owing to substantial unexpected expenses you can no longer afford your generous offer.

Thebigblueballoon · 30/09/2023 13:50

Mirabai · 30/09/2023 13:42

Bollocks to this. Only women would ever think there was any financial obligation in this case.

OP his passing you on a couple of contacts doesn’t mean you have to fork out half his plane fare now you have financial issues and he is taking the piss.

It was a crazy thing to offer to start with.

Just say no. He would never do it for you. And I’m sure you can furnish him with contacts, work benefits in the future.

If you read the thread you’d see I’d already taken it back. Cheers though.

Kimten · 30/09/2023 13:56

You're right not the fund his flight.
I think he's using you.
Free flights and shags. Nice and snug for him.

I wouldn't give that fucker diddly.

crosstalk · 30/09/2023 14:01

If the contacts were really worth it and you couldn't have got them any other way, I'd be paying for the cheaper route to Paris as a PP has suggested and just bin the two days.

Steev · 30/09/2023 14:01

I bet he's furious

TurqoiseJasper · 30/09/2023 14:02

coolkatt · 30/09/2023 11:51

hun pay the ticket and suck it up.
then get rid of this guy who is seeing u as a
cheap shag.
he gave u the contacts straight away and has been honest about his plans.
doesn't matter who earns
more, but see it as a life lesson. don't pay for anyone's anything like that again.

No no no NO!
Suck it up what? Honest about his plans? So bloody what! He's taking this piss big time, why should she pay, it's a huge amount of money just for two contact names?

Also she's had an unexpected expense, and probably can't really afford it

And, believe it or not, there is something called changing one's mind. And she has very good reason to.

Kimten · 30/09/2023 14:03

Just as well its only 'casual' and 'fun', as you say.
He probably has a wife or girlfriend at home.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/09/2023 14:31

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 30/09/2023 11:41

Just say, "no, this wasn't our agreement. I was going to pay for you to come and us have a few weeks together, not just 2 days. Or are you expecting me to pay for your holiday with other friends that I'm not part of?

Lets not bother with this trip and let's see if there is another time in the future when you can come and spend a few weeks with me as clearly your plans for this trip have changed significantly."

This is what I’d say

Dodobirds · 30/09/2023 14:33

Kimten · 30/09/2023 14:03

Just as well its only 'casual' and 'fun', as you say.
He probably has a wife or girlfriend at home.

He definitely doesn’t! I’ve been to his house a few times.

OP posts:
EpitomeofEpiphany · 30/09/2023 14:34

I couldn't get passed the two days thing

caringcarer · 30/09/2023 14:52

I'd tell him I'd pay for the ticket when he can come for longer as 2 days its really not worth the ticket price. If he mentions these friends in Paris just say you will pay for his return ticket from Australia to the UK return. He can sort something out with friends in Paris another time when you are not paying.

Newestname002 · 30/09/2023 15:01

@Dodobirds

Sad the plans have gone astray but, sometimes, life just does just hit you in the face and you have then to sort out the problem with plan B.

Paying for his flights was a nice thing to offer but essential, major and expensive work on your home is more important to sort out this time.

I hope you can both get past this and it doesn't irretrievably ruin your friendship. 🌹

Dodobirds · 30/09/2023 15:20

caringcarer · 30/09/2023 14:52

I'd tell him I'd pay for the ticket when he can come for longer as 2 days its really not worth the ticket price. If he mentions these friends in Paris just say you will pay for his return ticket from Australia to the UK return. He can sort something out with friends in Paris another time when you are not paying.

I definitely don’t want to do this. I feel like he’s shown his true colours and shouldn’t have the benefit of hearing me suggest I want to spend more time with him!

OP posts:
caringcarer · 30/09/2023 15:25

Dodobirds · 30/09/2023 15:20

I definitely don’t want to do this. I feel like he’s shown his true colours and shouldn’t have the benefit of hearing me suggest I want to spend more time with him!

Surely nobody travels from Australia to UK for 2 days just to visit a friend? It's ridiculous for him to suggest it.

Andylion · 30/09/2023 15:31

Ffsnotaconference · 30/09/2023 12:21

This is so weird.

You say it’s like he is a prostitute. But you were fine with it when it’s was for 2 weeks visit. Now it’s not worth it as it’s for 2 days.

Its casual. You are having a bit of fun, when you offered you were under no illusion he was coming to see you for anymore than some fun.

I don’t think you are unreasonable to not pay. You can’t afford it. But is a bit ridiculous to talk about how he is acting like a prostitute. You are clearly acting like a punter. So I don’t think you can judge him.

You were fine with it when it was 2 weeks of casual fun. Now you don’t think it’s value for money so don’t want to.

I agree with this. I think it’s bizarre that OP offered to pay in the first place.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/09/2023 15:34

I feel like he’s shown his true colours and shouldn’t have the benefit of hearing me suggest I want to spend more time with him!

And you're absolutely right, OP

I guess the good news is that you found out about his plans before the trip and while you could still pull back, because otherwise he might well have spent a couple of days with you then announced he was off

A bit ssilly of him to give it away really, but perhaps he feels he's SO amazing that you'd have gladly paid anyway?

Mirabai · 30/09/2023 15:41

Dodobirds · 30/09/2023 15:20

I definitely don’t want to do this. I feel like he’s shown his true colours and shouldn’t have the benefit of hearing me suggest I want to spend more time with him!

Absolutely. I

Mrsgreen100 · 30/09/2023 15:44

Don’t pay anyone for visiting you
its not ok
NO No

Autumnleaves89 · 30/09/2023 19:50

OP, what was his response when you said you wouldn’t be paying?