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FKATondelayo · 30/09/2023 11:52

Fair play OP. I withdraw my comment.

Peccary · 30/09/2023 11:56

He's a commodity and he's worth it to his employers. The money in football is ridiculous but it's a business. We're a United household and I'd still admit he's a great player and seems a good role model and all round great guy.

He also has value as a North African/Muslim player to the club and it's status in other countries (he's a hero in Egypt). The EPL is an international business.

DeeCee77 · 30/09/2023 11:58

EasternStandard · 30/09/2023 11:30

I agree with other pp on paying taxes, good causes and talent but this reminds me of an excellent film I saw where Michael Jordan (mother mostly as he was a teen) changed the market so athletes would get a share of profits

I thought it great. The players with the talent should see the financial reward not just owners. Also a clear ethnicity divide and Jordan helped black players after him

Reward the athletes imo

Must have been a poor film then, because it was Pelé who changed the game in 1970 when he got a share of the profits from Puma King boot sales.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pel%C3%A9#%22Pel%C3%A9_Pact%22_and_Puma_sponsorship

That and the rivalry between Adidas and Puma transforming sports apparel into a million billion pound industry.

OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 30/09/2023 12:00

I also think it’s abhorrent that anyone can earn that kind of money from playing a game. And worse are the executives in charge of the clubs/associations. The Saudi league for example?

But that's capitalism for you. It's unfair to single out football. Look at big corporations where the CEOs earn millions while those at the bottom struggle on minimum wage. As pps have said, look at those with inherited wealth who do precisely fuck all for their money.

Salah has a skill that can command an exceptionally high wage. He has presumably worked his way up the football ranks, trained intensively and so on. It's a matter of luck for him that his skill is worth so much, and a matter of market forces in a capitalist society that make it so.

In the wider sense, capitalism is indeed abhorrent, but individual footballers are not abhorrent for simply taking what is been offered in a system they can't change - again, as pps have pointed out, Salah has been using at least some of the money charitably.

SymbolicSymbals · 30/09/2023 12:01

No. He’s an outstandingly talented individual, one of the greatest players in world football. The club make a very significant sum of money off him, why shouldn’t he have a share of it? He could earn far more if he went to the Saudi league, so it’s the going rate for a player of his stature. He’s also paying more in tax than most of us will ever earn in our lifetime.

LimeCheesecake · 30/09/2023 12:02

Would it help to put some other numbers on this:

Liverpool football club revenues for 2022 was £594m, but their costs are high (including player wages) so their profit was £7.5m. The club is owned by an American company who owns lots of other sports teams.

I just don’t think it’s more “moral” that the American company that owns Liverpool gets to keep more of the £594m so that the players get less.

LakeTiticaca · 30/09/2023 12:03

Footballers need to earn their money while they can as most are past their best when they hit early 30s. So the sensible ones invest wisely for their futures

Lifeinlists · 30/09/2023 12:12

LakeTiticaca · 30/09/2023 12:03

Footballers need to earn their money while they can as most are past their best when they hit early 30s. So the sensible ones invest wisely for their futures

Exactly this.
He's an exceptional player who could go anywhere in the world. He chooses to stay here for now which is our gain tax wise. What he chooses to do with his income is up to him but in a capitalist society someone has decided he is worth that figure.

BadLad · 30/09/2023 12:17

flapjackfairy · 30/09/2023 11:18

nobody no matter what their job should be earning a million pounds a week. It is obscene .

Do you also object to the money J.K.Rowling makes from the Harry Potter IP?

EasternStandard · 30/09/2023 12:24

DeeCee77 · 30/09/2023 11:58

Must have been a poor film then, because it was Pelé who changed the game in 1970 when he got a share of the profits from Puma King boot sales.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pel%C3%A9#%22Pel%C3%A9_Pact%22_and_Puma_sponsorship

That and the rivalry between Adidas and Puma transforming sports apparel into a million billion pound industry.

It’s a great film, good on Pelé though, Jordan still had to fight for it with that precedent

I’m for any athlete who changes the structure

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/09/2023 12:25

Christ Almighty. Humanity really does have its priorities all wrong.

AndIKnewYouMeantIt · 30/09/2023 12:29

BoohooWoohoo · 30/09/2023 11:10

If he wasn't paid £1m then won't the money that he "earns" for the club go to the TV broadcasters and club instead? If he makes the club more than a million a week (ticket sales, tv rights, shirts etc) then he should be paid a million. He's hardly the only professional on a 7 figure salary- do the others like movie stars, models and CEOs deserve it?

Perfectly put. Thank you.

Please can we be looking at the likes of Manchester City as clubs if we are going to be bothered about the ethics of football and money?

AndIKnewYouMeantIt · 30/09/2023 12:31

As for "god knows what price", my husband's Liverpool ticket on Wednesday cost £27. Less than a curry.

OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 30/09/2023 12:36

AndIKnewYouMeantIt · 30/09/2023 12:31

As for "god knows what price", my husband's Liverpool ticket on Wednesday cost £27. Less than a curry.

Where on earth do you get your curries from? 😄

NuffSaidSam · 30/09/2023 12:37

AndIKnewYouMeantIt · 30/09/2023 12:31

As for "god knows what price", my husband's Liverpool ticket on Wednesday cost £27. Less than a curry.

Not the point of the thread, but....you spend more than £27 per head on curry?!?

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 30/09/2023 12:41

I don’t know, I hate football and hate how they roll around on the floor pretending to be injured but if that’s the going rate, if anyone deserves it Mo Salah does.

MorrisZapp · 30/09/2023 12:41

He's worth it. I'm not a football fan but have you seen his smile?

He lights up the whole world.

BadLad · 30/09/2023 12:41

LimeCheesecake · 30/09/2023 12:02

Would it help to put some other numbers on this:

Liverpool football club revenues for 2022 was £594m, but their costs are high (including player wages) so their profit was £7.5m. The club is owned by an American company who owns lots of other sports teams.

I just don’t think it’s more “moral” that the American company that owns Liverpool gets to keep more of the £594m so that the players get less.

That is hardly an insane(ly big) profit.

Beezknees · 30/09/2023 12:42

Wait until you find out how much Ronaldo gets paid...

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/09/2023 12:43

MorrisZapp · Today 12:41

He's worth it. I'm not a football fan but have you seen his smile?

He lights up the whole world”

oh, well, in that case. 🙄

theduchessofspork · 30/09/2023 12:48

It’s a business and he’s worth what people are prepared to pay him. And he does, in point of fact, have extraordinary skill - he’s not Kylie Jenner. He also will pay a lot of tax.

The wealth inequality problem in the Uk isn’t driven by footballers being paid too much.

TeenLifeMum · 30/09/2023 12:52

It saddens me what we value in society when someone who kicks a ball earns more than someone who saves lives, dedicates their life to caring etc.

theduchessofspork · 30/09/2023 12:52

FKATondelayo · 30/09/2023 11:24

Oh not this again. Funny how nobody ever starts these posts outraged at the wealth and car collections of the Duke of Westminster or the Candy brothers. We see you OP. It's just the self-made African man who grinds your gears.

To put his salary in context, Egypt has a population of over 100 million and Mo Salah is almost certainly the most famous Egyptian ever. Millions around the world buy his likeness on shirts, football cards and video games. People who have never watched a game of football know who Mo Salah is. People who aren't Liverpool supporters follow his career. Is he not supposed to benefit from the wealth and income he personally has generated?

Nothing the OP said indicated she’s being racist. People complain about how much footballers earn all the time. She just saw an article in the guardian about him.

DeeCee77 · 30/09/2023 12:53

ShooLala · 30/09/2023 11:28

I ❤️ him. He’s a massive asset to the club. Deserves every penny for being at the top of his game x

100%.

He entertains millions, and being able to do that is a priceless asset.

RudsyFarmer · 30/09/2023 12:54

Doesn’t bother me in the least. Good for him.

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