To intensely dislike Rishi Sunak?

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He has no backbone, no coherent policies (u-turns a dozen times a day)and no understanding of ordinary people's lives. Plus he wears all his clothes a size too small, which really irritates me.

If you can't even spell lefties, let alone set out any coherent arguments against them, why should we engage?

But you were never ever going to vote Labour, were you?

Shh - let them waste their time here.

Seems that all Rish! and his ragtag bunch of deeply unpleasant chums are doing is trying to attract the votes of people who would vote Tory anyway. Which isn't how you win elections.

I won't be voting for Dishy Rishi but I know a lot of people who will be. I'm still surprised people think labour will be worse than this utter mess!

@SerendipityJane it could be worse like with Labour. Keep hearing people they used to vote Labour and are now politically homeless.

Yeah, they're Tories.

Me and my husband met him last year in Richmond and he is a tiny and so incredibly posh! I felt like a right commoner speaking to him and I'm not working class!

I'm from about 10 miles away from where he's from and I always feel common when I hear him speak. And people tell me I sound posh if they are north of London 🤣🤣

No one has attacked anyone.

It's the Tory voters who keep saying Labour will be a disaster.

All people have asked is why you think that. Sure that's a valid question?

And most asking are swing voters so not actually affiliated with Labour at all.

If you can't say why you think Labour will be a disaster just write that. Don't go defensive writing a load of twaddle instead 🙄

It's a bit like asking Brexiteers what the upsides of Brexit are.

They can't come up with anything.

On Labour - all anyone seems to be able to come up with is the fact that the bins weren't emptied in 1978.

How do you know that? I feel exactly the same as Strawberry06. The majority of Labour voters on here have verbally attacked anyone who dares to disagree with them … very sad.

You must have a short memory if you've forgotten all Blair/Browns mistakes and disasters!

@Strawberry06 the fact you use the word lefty says a lot- I'm definitely not a lefty- very much in the middle- but it seems anything left of Hitler these days is termed 'a lefty'

It is possible to be critical of the lack of direction, forward planning, filling your mates boots , lack of business understanding and general 1st class degree level in bullshit that the current gvt seem to be operating on without being as you deem it 'a lefty'

Asking for a rationale beyond 'Labour would be worse' does not equate to a verbal attack. Unless you're a very sensitive person.

@Badbadbunny when Labour left in 2010, debt was lower, waiting lists in the NHS were much shorter, there was a costed plan for replacing crumbling school buildings, we had the NMW, we were able to live and work in 27 other countries without visas and permits. Did Labour get everything right? Hell no. Were they better than the current government? Hell yes - unless you're a blind loyalist.

Sunak is at least better than his two immediate predecessors.

I think I prefer him to Starmer, who just seems… nothing? With the Tories messing things up everywhere, you’d think that they’d be really easy targets for the Opposition but Starmer doesn’t seem to be able to take advantage, which is surprising for someone with his legal experience. I thought he was going to be the person to make Labour more electable, but I don’t think he’s done it - if they get in, it will be the Tories losing the election, not Labour winning it.

I’ll probably vote Liberal Democrats at the next GE and hold my nose. Simply because they have a better chance at getting the Tories out round here, and I think it is time for a change in government. I just wish that there would be a change in politicians - would like to see more cross-party working for the good of the country, and less spin / posturing (and the rise of that in the first place is something I blame Blair for, but no one has rolled that back)

Of course it doesn't, but it doesn't stop some posters whining about it.

Still no one prepared to defend Sunak's record and provide proof of his decency and integrity I see.

If Labour do win, it will be an anti Tory vote not a pro Labour vote.

@Alstroemeria123 and your post perfectly illustrates the problem with politics these days. People want personalities and entertainment, not competence. It's so incredibly shallow. I'd much rather have Mr Boring at the helm steadily getting on with things than an endless succession of Mr/Ms Splashy Soundbite, which is what we've had for the last few years.

What a snowflake reaction - a few people asked for more details on the reasons why Labour would be a disaster and that's an "attack" - really?
You're the ones who start crying if someone doesn't share your blind Tory loyality.

Did you factor in all the tens of billions of PFI liabilities for the shiny new hospitals and schools with atriums etc??

Or Brown constantly lengthening the "economic cycle" because the deficit kept growing even in the economic boom?

Or Blair's illegal war in Iraq?

Brown trying to pretend that nurses' wages were an "investment" rather than an expense, or calling benefits "tax credit" to try to fool the IMF that our benefits were lower than they really were?

Or Brown's yo-yo tax rates, i.e. 0% and 10% for limited companies that he withdrawn a couple of years after introduction, or the 10% basic rate tax he scrapped a few years after bringing it in?

It's what we've had for 25 years, not "the last few years"!

Well I hope Sunak had a lovely time at the conference. It was his last as PM.

If Labour do win (for whatever reason) they cant fuck up more then the Tories have, lets face it..

I dont dislike Sunak as intensely as i do Rees-Mogg, Braverman, Truss, or Patel (and her dance buddy Farage)

At least Starmer has some in his party who are actually bloody sane.

Tiny man in a tiny suit.... and he used the term " fork out" the other day when referring to the "poor people." Oh do stop it 😕

@Badbadbunny I never said Labour were perfect. The PFI contracts were very badly handled and gave far too much money to greedy private sector providers.

But nurses pay is an investment. The current state of the NHS is testimony to what happens if you continually give nurses and doctors below inflation pay rises, also known as pay cuts. The Trust I work in can't recruit the nurses it needs and it's patients who suffer. If you want good healthcare, you have to pay for it.

As for the Iraq war - may I remind you that the Tories wholeheartedly support it, and that the only dissent came from Labour and Lib Dem voices?

Meanwhile we've had 13 years of utter shitshow - perhaps it's time now to hold the actual government responsible for that instead of bleating about how bad Labour are?

@Badbadbunny well at least we got some schools and hospitals- albeit I agree not the best deal- I personally can't see one single benefit after £400 billion spent on Brexit and a declining economy, plus billions in money to their mates and donors during covid-strange that we needed all that 'austerity' and yet that money magically appeared - seems that if labour spend billions on something it is forever in the memory- if the Tory's do- it's totally forgotten about