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To intensely dislike Rishi Sunak?

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IClaudine · 30/09/2023 10:03

He has no backbone, no coherent policies (u-turns a dozen times a day)and no understanding of ordinary people's lives. Plus he wears all his clothes a size too small, which really irritates me.

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DuncinToffee · 03/10/2023 14:45

Rishi Sunak suggests he could welcome Nigel Farage back into the Tory party.

Asked by @christopherhope whether he would, PM says: "Look, the Tory party is a broad church. I welcome lots of people who want to subscribe to our ideals, to our values."

Any brave Tories like to comment on how they would feel about this?

IClaudine · 03/10/2023 14:55

Bloody hell. Is Sunak angling to put Farage into one of the many vacant Tory seats for the next GE?

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Iwantmyoldnameback · 03/10/2023 14:56

DuncinToffee · 03/10/2023 14:45

Rishi Sunak suggests he could welcome Nigel Farage back into the Tory party.

Asked by @christopherhope whether he would, PM says: "Look, the Tory party is a broad church. I welcome lots of people who want to subscribe to our ideals, to our values."

Any brave Tories like to comment on how they would feel about this?

I think they'd be delirious with bleeding happiness. And start droning on about Tony Blair or even more predictably Jeremy Corbyn.

Efacsen · 03/10/2023 15:05

Yeah but Farage has said Thanks but no thanks

How embaressing

Zoelander · 03/10/2023 15:08

DuncinToffee · 03/10/2023 14:45

Rishi Sunak suggests he could welcome Nigel Farage back into the Tory party.

Asked by @christopherhope whether he would, PM says: "Look, the Tory party is a broad church. I welcome lots of people who want to subscribe to our ideals, to our values."

Any brave Tories like to comment on how they would feel about this?

This doesn't surprise me. Sunak was very right wing in his teens and supported Farage"s campaign to leave the EU back in the 90's.

He is still extremely right wing today, it's just that it's become the norm in the Tory parry. Nigel would be at home there.

Apparently he said today nobody in the country wants an election that's why he is not calling one. I respectfully disagree !

MrTiddlesTheCat · 03/10/2023 15:15

'I ALWAYS think a dictator is a good idea, if they're a good dictator'

Lee Anderson CPC23

itsgettingweird · 03/10/2023 16:05

DuncinToffee · 03/10/2023 08:24

Tories bad, Labour good

Absolute nonsense.

Many posters on here are swing voters, some have even voted Conservative in the past. There is plenty to criticise about Labour but if you are looking around after 13 years of Tory and think they deserve more time, then at least list the things that you think they have done well.

'labour would be worse' is just lazy.

So come on, what have the Tories done well the last 13 years?

🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️ that's me 🫣

I voted for Tory in 2019 so equally to blame for this mess as others that did because Corbyn was too left wing for me and Johnson more centrist which aligns more with my political standing.

I'm still able to realise Corbyn wasn't at fault for this when I don't even like him 🤣🤣

itsgettingweird · 03/10/2023 16:10

Katharinablumwasinnocent · 03/10/2023 12:43

@Daz57 thinks the NHS is in fine shape and that Russell Brand is being victimised. I think that tells us dazza’s opinions on things.
Awaiting being told not to question certain voters intelligence for fear of putting them off voting labour

I hate this bunch of right wing Tory's.

I also don't agree with the way the RB thing was handled. Do I think he's guilty - yes. I think he's done stuff. I don't agree with trial by SM.

When it happened to a woman who was found to have evidence and found to court for DV loads of MNers were up in arms about it and the media reporting of her.

I'm very fair minded. I like things to be done properly.

I don't think those issues are the same.

SerendipityJane · 03/10/2023 16:11

MrTiddlesTheCat · 03/10/2023 15:15

'I ALWAYS think a dictator is a good idea, if they're a good dictator'

Lee Anderson CPC23

Incidentally, didn't Rish! admit to LK this weekend that he had no mandate for his policies, but was going to press ahead with them as he knows best ?

itsgettingweird · 03/10/2023 16:12

And yes to it being valid that if you believe RB shouldn't have trial by SM until found guilty or at least charged with offences why decide Starmer who was found innocent after investigation - is guilty?

itsgettingweird · 03/10/2023 16:13

Peter Davies in Fareham was an amazing Conservative councillor. How he could bring himself to work under Braverman (he's retired now) is beyond me.

He set up our local hub cafe. It went when he did Sad

bombastix · 03/10/2023 16:31

Notonthestairs · 03/10/2023 14:24

I thought Julian Smith was good as SoS for NI.

Grieve & Gauke in their roles also.

(appreciate the latter 2 weren't Brexity enough but they seemed sensible and measured)

There are others but those ones came to mind.

These are all good Tory men, thoughtful people who were driven out. The fact that they are not in the party any more is not a good thing, imo.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 03/10/2023 16:38

itsgettingweird · 03/10/2023 16:10

I hate this bunch of right wing Tory's.

I also don't agree with the way the RB thing was handled. Do I think he's guilty - yes. I think he's done stuff. I don't agree with trial by SM.

When it happened to a woman who was found to have evidence and found to court for DV loads of MNers were up in arms about it and the media reporting of her.

I'm very fair minded. I like things to be done properly.

I don't think those issues are the same.

There's no other trial available to women who've been raped and sexually assaulted in the UK. One woman had been to the police about him several times but they refused to take any action. Now all of a sudden they're investigating her complaints. Would they be doing that if the story hadn't broken in the media?

Passepartoute · 03/10/2023 19:26

Luckydip1 · 02/10/2023 20:01

We should be getting behind the PM, not knocking him down.

Strangely that wasn't a sentiment felt by Sunak in May/June last year.

Passepartoute · 03/10/2023 19:44

Daz57 · 03/10/2023 09:56

This is the most accurate post on this thread. I was thinking exactly the same. Well said.

How can a statement that Starmer broke lockdown rules be accurate when it was the subject of a number of investigations - to say nothing of incredibly strenuous efforts by the Mail et al to secure prosecutions - and people who actually knew the law agreed he didn't?

Are you able to tell us what the Conservatives have done (particularly with regard to the economy, the environment, education, social care, health care, housing, and the justice system)that makes them a good bet to stay in government?

Crikeyalmighty · 03/10/2023 19:49

@jgw1 Tobias Ellwood is a pretty ok guy too- clearly out of stance with this bunch of business illiterate ukip arses who reside under a Tory banner

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/10/2023 19:51

Passepartoute · 03/10/2023 19:26

Strangely that wasn't a sentiment felt by Sunak in May/June last year.

Or in September/October last year.

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 03/10/2023 20:24

Crikeyalmighty · 03/10/2023 19:49

@jgw1 Tobias Ellwood is a pretty ok guy too- clearly out of stance with this bunch of business illiterate ukip arses who reside under a Tory banner

Nope, he's just a more polished ignorant bullshitter.

Saw him on the news a while back sounding all inforned and sensible, talking about nuclear power and the small reactors Rolls Royce make, and how the only thing stopping us from buying them was that treasury rules on competition meant the money couldn't be released as RR were the only producers in the world. We just needed the money to be released and the energy crisis would be sorted.

As I said, very knowledgeable and sensible I thought. Until DH pipes up that it sounded great but was utter bollocks.

DH is a nuclear scientist so knows what he's talking about. Rolls Royce don't have a reactor ready to buy. They have a theoretical design. They haven't even built a prototype. There's nothing to buy, they're looking for research/development money to see if it works. If it does, you'd be looking at 10-20 years before it's ready to go to market.

The USA put a lot of money into their design but eventually gave up due to safety concerns.

China are around 5 years into developing theirs. They're hoping they'll have it working in another 5 or so years.

Russia have developed one that is up and running and on the market!

Alexandra2001 · 03/10/2023 20:50

Crikeyalmighty · 03/10/2023 19:49

@jgw1 Tobias Ellwood is a pretty ok guy too- clearly out of stance with this bunch of business illiterate ukip arses who reside under a Tory banner

He came out with some crap supporting the Taliban, posted a video on how much Afghan has improved under their rule... riiiiight.

Sounds like another out of touch Tory.

Yeah SMRs are untried and tested tech... with one Tory minister suggesting the waste they produce is on par with a oil/gas power station.

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 03/10/2023 21:38

Alexandra2001 · 03/10/2023 20:50

He came out with some crap supporting the Taliban, posted a video on how much Afghan has improved under their rule... riiiiight.

Sounds like another out of touch Tory.

Yeah SMRs are untried and tested tech... with one Tory minister suggesting the waste they produce is on par with a oil/gas power station.

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I vaguely remember DH telling me once that the waste from coal powered plants is just as radioactive as from nuclear plants. But I may have dreamt it. I'll ask him tomorrow and about oil and gas ones.

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/10/2023 21:51

Alexandra2001 · 03/10/2023 20:50

He came out with some crap supporting the Taliban, posted a video on how much Afghan has improved under their rule... riiiiight.

Sounds like another out of touch Tory.

Yeah SMRs are untried and tested tech... with one Tory minister suggesting the waste they produce is on par with a oil/gas power station.

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Women don't matter to Tories.Angry

Passepartoute · 03/10/2023 23:55

Daz57 · 03/10/2023 10:11

I vote for them because I think at this point in time they would be the better party to run the country but of course time will tell. I am older and have very bad memories of Labour governments.
I hope more people will find the courage to put their heads above the parapet too.

What is it about -

  • massively increased inflation
  • massively increased debt, far far above what it was when Labour left power
  • massively increased NHS waiting lists
  • massively increased delays in bringing criminals to trial
  • increased fuel costs
  • schools closing because the government did nothing to stop them falling down till it was too late
  • massive cuts to local authority spending
  • massively increased sewage pollution
  • massive staff shortages in service industries
  • billions wasted on corrupt PPE contracts
  • SEN decision making resulting from underfunding that is so poor that parents win over 90% of appeals
  • widely acknowledged failure of the social care system
  • appalling mental health provision
  • government plans to add to environmental pollution
  • widespread business failures

that makes you feel the Conservatives would be better at running the country in future?

Passepartoute · 04/10/2023 00:00

Daz57 · 03/10/2023 13:09

Sorry but this is getting silly now.

Why? I just don't see how you can possibly have it both ways.

Crikeyalmighty · 04/10/2023 00:04

@Passepartoute I get that your view may not be mine but you missed off 400 billion spent on Brexit for very very few actual tangible benefits!!

Passepartoute · 04/10/2023 00:06

Crikeyalmighty · 04/10/2023 00:04

@Passepartoute I get that your view may not be mine but you missed off 400 billion spent on Brexit for very very few actual tangible benefits!!

You're quite right, I should have included it.

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