To intensely dislike Rishi Sunak?

[IClaudine]

He has no backbone, no coherent policies (u-turns a dozen times a day)and no understanding of ordinary people's lives. Plus he wears all his clothes a size too small, which really irritates me.

Remember the other week when Sunak demonstrated his maths competence? Insisted that it was a lie that he cut funding to rebuilt schools to 50 schools a year, when in fact one of the first things he did was to approve funding for 500 schools over 10 years?

While Sunak’s team insist all their plans are well thought through, and reflect Sunak’s vision and desire for change, there are plenty in his party who smell panic and policymaking on the hoof.

“The policy blitz is just confusing people,” said one senior Tory. “It smacks of total desperation. HS2, smoking, net zero … Most people just seem to see this as flailing around in every direction rather than having any coherent strategy.”

Whether or not it is all coherent, most Tories agree on one thing at least: that the burst of recent activity points towards a general election sooner rather than later. “Multiple cabinet ministers now expect a May election,” said one Tory.

“They’ve decided to gamble the house and are behaving like problem gamblers in a casino. Throwing the kitchen sink at random policy. This can only end badly.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/24/this-can-only-end-badly-tories-fear-sunak-policy-blitz-is-bound-to-fail

@AdamRyan You are not correct. The Labour’s building schools for the future was based on location and not wholly on condition. Most projects were in Labour areas. This is why schools had not looked for RAAC or even undertaken proper surveys. It wasn’t about condition! Some poor buildings are easy to spot of course but it wasn’t addressing the worst buildings. Mostly secondary schools are academies: Converters or MATs or forced! They do have health and safety responsibilities. It’s not wholly the fault of the government. There is devolved responsibility. If schools are not academies they still have H&S responsibility.

The best that can be said for him is that he is not Johnson or Truss ...

Passepartoute
Opinions, not facts

That's what I posted -
it appears to be a fact that people on the left of the Labour Party think Keir Starmer is a liar:

think
^verb^
1.have a particular opinion, belief, or idea about someone or something.

I caught [an interview] when he was steadfastly refusing to admit that nowhere has a blanket 20 mph speed limit

I didn't catch the interview, but did he mean proposals such as this;

Surrey County Council is considering reducing the speed limits from 30mph to 20mph on most roads
A default 20mph speed limit could be introduced to most roads in Surrey’s towns and villages
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cml1g0kdy9go

Most roads is not a blanket ban.

You really think the A3 will become a 20mph road?

Fightyouforthatpie
How many times are you going to post irrelevant whataboutery about Starmer on a thread about Sunak?

Well that's funny, why didn't you say something on the Keir Starmer thread that preceded this one? Half of the thread (To intensely dislike Keir Starmer) was taken up with posts on Johnson, Sunak, Braverman, the Tories... including from the op and others on this thread. You were on the Keir Starmer thread - why didn't you wave your little rule book around then?

Am really getting annoyed with these daily policy briefs to the press which then get denied by Tory HQ. It's all super random with no coherent strategy. Sunak has clearly lost the plot.

Come on then, explain

My personal opinion is that Keir Starmer has told more 'lies' during the last three years than Boris Johnson - I expect that many people on the left of the Labour Party would agree with me

They planned to build or refurbish every secondary school in england and knew about the risks of RAAC over the next 10-20 years.
So they at least had a strategic plan that Conservatives cancelled without a backup plan.

https://www.partnershipsforschools.org.uk/about/aboutbsf.jsp

So you don’t have an answer then, as usual.

TBH if your born with every advantage, marry into an extremely rich family, you'd have to very stupid not to do very well.

At the weekend, Sunak said he was was reducing taxes and named Inflation as a "Tax"
I ve heard some porkies in my time but that is absurd and course if he takes credit for lowering inflation, he has to take the blame for the UK having higher inflation and for longer than almost all our comparable competitors.

.... which he wont do.

Sunak also backs Brexit, for that reason alone, i'd say he isn't "bright" at all, certainly not in terms of governing for the UK.

thread isn't about Starmer, we ve had one of those...

DuncinToffee
Come on then, explain

I already have to some extent - the lies Starmer told about his evening in Durham and the political lies listed in the Novara Media article;
https://novaramedia.com/2021/09/29/keir-starmer-is-just-as-dishonest-as-boris-johnson/

I see that Jewish Voice for Labour are on the case as well;
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/peter-oborsne-on-keir-starmer-a-definitive-condemnation/

This silly thread was started in direct retaliation to the thread about ‘Sir’ Keir. It even used the same title using a different name of course. People do not like Starm as it turns out, 60% voted that they ‘intensely’ disliked him.

The anger and resentment on here is because it’s only just landing with the Labour supporters on the forum now deeply unpopular Starmer is, and this might well cost them another election!

The Labour Party knew years ago he was an electoral lame duck, but they couldn’t replace him because of the infighting between hard left and centrists. He was the only acceptable middle ground despite serious fraying around the edges.

And.now it is a simmering pot of disunity unable to agree on any policies whatsoever. It is scary to note that the election campaign could start as early as 6 weeks time and they still haven’t even have an agreed vision or direction.

These threads are a sign of desperation, as the polls slam into reverse and Starm lisps through one blunder after another.

I didn't catch the interview, but did he mean proposals such as this;

Surrey County Council is considering reducing the speed limits from 30mph to 20mph on most roads
A default 20mph speed limit could be introduced to most roads in Surrey’s towns and villages

Surrey ... a Tory council and "roads in towns and villages" is NOT all roads in Surrey... and you say Starmer lies!!

TBH having driven around most Surrey towns, its pretty hard to get over 15mph.

Why did you put quotation marks around Sir?

These threads are a sign of desperation, as the polls slam into reverse and Starm lisps through one blunder after another.
😂You wish.

Alexandra2001
Surrey ... a Tory council and "roads in towns and villages" is NOT all roads in Surrey...

Sunak said 'areas' - I suppose it depends how you define areas -

"I think imposing a blanket 20 mile-an-hour speed limit on areas is absolutely not right. It doesn't reflect people's priorities."

Wow there's some projection going on in this thread! 😂

Is that it? But then you think lying to Parliament is ok.

This is hilarious
75% dislike Sunak, so Starmer is less unpopular than Sunak. Interestingly the figures align roughlu with national polling where 45% plan to vote Labour, 24% conservative.

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/47437-voting-intention-con-24-lab-45-26-27-sep-2023

In my opinion Starmer is staying quiet because the Conservatives are best left alone to make their own mess, flailing around with ridiculous policies and crises left right and centre.

@Clavinova / I don't mind you being pro conservative but come on Peter Oborne is not a voice for Labour even if he appears in a Labour supporting publication!!!

In my opinion Starmer is staying quiet because the Conservatives are best left alone to make their own mess

Never interrupt your enemy etc etc…

And let’s face it, these last few years have been one mistake after another, hence the Tories dismal poll ratings, and they’ll continue to fight, scheme and plot against each other over conference.

AdamRyan
They planned to build or refurbish every secondary school in england and knew about the risks of RAAC over the next 10-20 years.

Why didn't Labour's 2015 manifesto reinstate the £55bn Building Schools for the Future plan?

And yet it's still going principally because of people like you.

Just don't post on it if you can't stand people pointing out what a fuckwit Rishi is.