To think this, is how the Tories could win?

[madamreign]

Sunak is setting out his stall as pro-car:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/28/rishi-sunak-expected-to-limit-powers-of-councils-in-england-to-curb-car-use-20mph-speed-limit-traffic-camera-fines

This could actually swing it for him. People sink vast amounts of time and money into their cars, they're aspirational status symbols. The UK loves it's cars.

And after five years Labour are very likely to strip the country of everything that works and is outstanding about this country taking us on a levelling down path.

Did you type that with a straight face? What do you think the Tories have been up to for the last 13 years?

2008! We ran out of money and ten years of austerity was required..

The 1970s?

Shall we go on?

Dealing with brexit - voted across all parties

Pandemic for years

A war in Ukraine

Cost of living crisis

Austerity was ideological, not economic.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2018/10/austerity-how-ideological-project-failed-its-own-terms

Language doesn't matter to Tories.🤷‍♀️
https://debbiehayton.com/2021/03/17/why-does-penny-mordaunt-think-trans-men-are-men/

Have a good Friday everyone

World banking crash? Or are massive financial crises affecting the entire world (ala COVID lockdowns and war) only acceptable excuses for Tory government failures?

Austerity was a choice, not a requirement. The note was a long-standing joke, etc etc.

I really am laughing at your insistence of our impending doom under Labour's watch, whilst decrying they stand for nothing/have no policies.

This is all a bit pointless. Labour 2023 isn’t Labour 1974.

Tories 2023 aren’t Tories 1979.

The main problem I see is that social media has been exploited to vilify and lie about all parties (and, to be fair, by all parties).

Starmer does not want unlimited immigration. He does not want to confiscate your granny’s house or all your other assets, etc.

Equally, this government is not corrupt as MNers so credulously accept. Every challenge brought in court over covid contracts has failed to show anything unlawful. After full disclosure and judicial scrutiny. It’s just a boring, boring, deceitful campaign by non-Tory zealots.

And after five years Labour are very likely to strip the country of everything that works

Yes, it would be awful to strip the country of everything that works in 5 years wouldn’t it. Cant imagine what that would feel like. Emoji.

I'm here - I've only ever had one name on Mumsnet.
Perhaps some of the other 14 million voters who voted Conservative in 2019 have found this forum. Funny that.

You changed your name yesterday - who were you a few days ago?

Ooh! Burn.

If the response to such a tactic is intelligent, then no chance. They don't really care about ordinary people. Take ULEZ as an example. Forget the hype:

• They care, but not enough to provide more money for scrappage schemes.
• They care, but oblivious to the worst polluted places being in poor areas.
• They care, but played politics when it came to helping TFL funding and forced them to raise fares, hurting the poorest

I could go on and on, the reality is that environmental issues intersect with so many things and its always the poorest that suffer the most. What is deliberately missed is that the serious environmentalists talk about climate justice and a just transition. Very much aware of costs and helping those who need help. All Sunak wants to do is play a cynical political games with people's lives and their health, and line the pockets of the wealthy few. Wreaking the NHS and our environment at the same time, when you see what is likely to unfold if he's successful it's an awful future ahead

BIossomtoes
Austerity was ideological, not economic

EU ideology?

16 March 2010
Curb your spending, Brussels tells Gordon Brown.

Gordon Brown was dealt an embarrassing blow last night when Brussels gave warning that Britain must do more to curb its spiralling debt.

The European Commission wants Labour to outline further spending cuts and spell out where the axe will fall.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/curb-your-spending-brussels-tells-gordon-brown-3rkmql67hxs

No, Tory ideology as per the New Statesman article.

This Ulez thing only affects a small number of motorists and it was brought in by a Tory Mayor of London, Boris Johnson. Nobody made a big deal out of it . Because its not a big deal.

But now they've found they can attack Khan over it. And Starmer has obligingly bottled and ratted on Sadiq . So yeah I'd run with it if I was Sunak. Not like he has anything else to talk about?

They're still gonna lose because they are shyte. It just won't be a landslide because so is Starmer?

DdraigGoch
The expansion of the London ULEZ was something Shapps insisted Khan did as part of the TfL bailout deal during the pandemic

https://fullfact.org/online/ulez-expansion-letter/

Oh no! You mean that the Labour shills are thoughtlessly repeating falsehoods again? Well I never.

Why do you keep repeating this load of old arse?

Mumbleer
Sunak proves why the UN was right to snub the UK PM for its Climate Ambition Summit

the summit has failed to attract the leaders of the two biggest carbon emitters, with neither Joe Biden, the US president, nor Xi Jinping, president of China, attending. Rishi Sunak, the British prime minister, and Emmanuel Macron, the French president, are also missing the gathering

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/20/un-climate-summit-polluting-countries-leaders-skipping

But your happy to vote for a party which has systematically run the country into the ground whilst making themselves and their mates richer for 13 years.

Ok then.

Yep even if Labour did intend to strip anything that worked it wouldn’t take long since almost nothing works for ordinary people after 13 years of Tory austerity.

Oh no! You mean that the Labour shills are thoughtlessly repeating

Says the username with no posting history. Shills you say?

Oh, maybe you name changed? Clav never changes her name, she’s told us, so that’s cleared that up. But maybe you do.

Is that the best you can do? Why not answer Clavinova’s post?

BTW, I’ve been a poster and reader for many years, but de-registered.

If you want to PM me I’ll give you past usernames.

BIossomtoes
No, Tory ideology as per the New Statesman article

I can't read much of the article.

What's this?

Council of the European Union

On 5 December 2017, the Council closed the excessive deficit procedure for the United Kingdom, confirming that its government deficit has dropped below the EU’s 3% of GDP reference value.

It abrogated its 2008 decision on the existence of an excessive deficit in the UK.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2017/12/05/uk-s-deficit-back-below-3percent-of-gdp-council-closes-procedure/

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