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Seeing lots of single child family

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Guffpuff · 23/09/2023 18:44

We went for a long walk today around a reservoir. It's quite a popular place. We saw a large number of single child families. We feel that it's becoming more and more common now. Could be due to Cost of living and inflation or mix of lots of reasons.
Is this something you're observing as well?

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Thepeopleversuswork · 25/09/2023 08:21

I have an only, never occurred to me to have more.

My marriage broke down when my DD was not quite four and I was 40+ by then so it wasn’t an option even if I had wanted more children but I never regretted it at all.

So many benefits for me:

  • more money to go around
  • more time to invest
  • didn’t derail my career
  • me and DD are very close, much more so than if I had had more kids

The only regret I have ever had is just the curiosity about what a second child might have been like.

But having an only is definitely the best option for me.

Badseedmum · 25/09/2023 08:24

I've just read more of this thread and had to laugh out loud at the notion that cousins are your first best friends. I don't know anyone who is best friends with their cousins! Or anyone who was first best friends with their cousins.

One of my cousins is an only child. She didn't invite any of her cousins to her small wedding as she's far closer to her friends than us and considers them more family. I wasn't in the least bit upset about it

Family can come in all sorts of shapes and sizes and sometimes the family we choose can be closer than the ones that are blood. My mum had an elderly neighbour who had 2 daughters. One lived abroad and one wasn't in contact with her. It was mostly my mum that organised her care and visited her when she was in a care home. Proof that family comes in all forms. My DC is an only child and may in future get step siblings or half siblings and I have no idea how many cousins they will have but I know I will give them the skills to build close and nurturing relationships that will support them whatever.

NeedMyDress · 25/09/2023 08:29

Has anyone yet mentioned the fact that the generation who are now parents (roughly mid thirties to mid forties) grew up being half cared for by their own grandparents, whereas now the baby boomers seem to have decided they don't want to do childcare, or parents of young children have had to move away from family support in order to find work - mothers now compared to mothers in the eighties have so much less practical support from family.

Living away from any support network, the costs of childcare/ housing being about triple in real terms compared to their parents generation - of course families are getting smaller. Women can only cope with so much.

Comedycook · 25/09/2023 08:42

NeedMyDress · 25/09/2023 08:29

Has anyone yet mentioned the fact that the generation who are now parents (roughly mid thirties to mid forties) grew up being half cared for by their own grandparents, whereas now the baby boomers seem to have decided they don't want to do childcare, or parents of young children have had to move away from family support in order to find work - mothers now compared to mothers in the eighties have so much less practical support from family.

Living away from any support network, the costs of childcare/ housing being about triple in real terms compared to their parents generation - of course families are getting smaller. Women can only cope with so much.

Parenting is very different now for sure. Most women have to work as well. But parents are now so much more invested and involved with every aspect of their children's life. I'm not sure it's healthy for either party. Lots of parents of only children on here saying they have more one on one time, can give their child more attention and more financial assistance. It's all very intense.

Wolfricbriandumbledore · 25/09/2023 09:09

Comedycook · 25/09/2023 08:42

Parenting is very different now for sure. Most women have to work as well. But parents are now so much more invested and involved with every aspect of their children's life. I'm not sure it's healthy for either party. Lots of parents of only children on here saying they have more one on one time, can give their child more attention and more financial assistance. It's all very intense.

Most women choose to work as well, and many choose to have a single child who fits in more easily around that. The people going on about ‘intensity’ appear to be imagining some kind of SAHP situation where the child is the sole focus of the household. Not so here.

Comedycook · 25/09/2023 09:15

Wolfricbriandumbledore · 25/09/2023 09:09

Most women choose to work as well, and many choose to have a single child who fits in more easily around that. The people going on about ‘intensity’ appear to be imagining some kind of SAHP situation where the child is the sole focus of the household. Not so here.

No ...I'm imagining the housewives of the past with multiple kids who kicked them out to play in the street whilst they got on with their housework. And yes plenty of working parents are intensely parenting their dc. Tutors, extra curricular clubs, organised play dates, blah blah blah. Of course no one wants multiple kids when they're parenting in that way.

Wolfricbriandumbledore · 25/09/2023 09:21

Comedycook · 25/09/2023 09:15

No ...I'm imagining the housewives of the past with multiple kids who kicked them out to play in the street whilst they got on with their housework. And yes plenty of working parents are intensely parenting their dc. Tutors, extra curricular clubs, organised play dates, blah blah blah. Of course no one wants multiple kids when they're parenting in that way.

I would see the tutoring, extracurricular clubs as the reverse of ‘intense’ — it’s just outsourcing, not a million miles from sending your kids out to play all day, apart from financially, obv. And all that focus on private schools, sports, musical instruments, tutoring, is mostly social insecurity aspirationalism , or a fear their children will get ‘left behind’.

WhatNoRaisins · 25/09/2023 09:23

If you read some of the stuff by "experts" on attachment parenting or gentle parenting you quickly find yourself thinking how the hell you are supposed to do it with a big family. Some of the most extreme advice wouldn't even be possible with two children.

WhatNoRaisins · 25/09/2023 09:25

The difference with modern clubs and sending kids out to play is the ferrying around needed. It's very time consuming and the more kids the more of your evening you're sitting in traffic trying to take them places.

mogtheexcellent · 25/09/2023 09:25

Mostly the reason was because i was an older mum but the reality is the cost. I estimated the cost of childcare for my DD over the weekend. Shes year 5 and i have a spreadsheet from when she started nursery at 8 months old. Ive estimated year 6 costs.

Its just over 84k.

My dh and i work full time with a joint income of 45k. I worked at a loss until DD was nearly 3.

Theres no way we could have afforded a second.

CurlyTop1980 · 25/09/2023 09:28

Most people I know have 2 or 1 child.

I very rarely meet people with 3 or more unless they are blended families.

SherbetLemonn · 25/09/2023 09:28

I can’t say I’ve really noticed this. Within my close friends (so I know the ins and outs of their family life!) and family circles, no one much has an only child, or if they have one at the moment, it is with plans of another in the near future. Most families 2-3 kids, but I know a couple with 4.
I myself only have one child, but he’s only two and I’d love another. We’ll see, ttc is working out about as well as it did last time so far, 18 months + ttc and nothing!

Comedycook · 25/09/2023 09:30

WhatNoRaisins · 25/09/2023 09:23

If you read some of the stuff by "experts" on attachment parenting or gentle parenting you quickly find yourself thinking how the hell you are supposed to do it with a big family. Some of the most extreme advice wouldn't even be possible with two children.

Yes it's crazy. Women in the old days put their babies in the pram at the end of the garden and got on with their cleaning

TempsPerdu · 25/09/2023 09:34

@Comedycook I think this is true to a point - we have an only and are very conscious of not being overbearing or smothering, and ensuring that DD learns to be independent, amuse herself etc. I definitely agree that this can be a bit harder to achieve with just the one child, as you need to specifically ‘teach’ these skills, rather than having your attention naturally divided by a second or third DC.

But for me it’s two things: firstly, the fact that resources and opportunities for the average family are becoming much scarcer than they were when I was growing up (or even than they were a decade ago) - not just personal finances but education, social mobility, healthcare, housing, even environmental resources are reducing in quality, affordability and accessibility. Just one small example - my brother had free NHS speech therapy back in the ‘80s because he was struggling to pronounce one particular sound properly; now friends whose DC have a severe speech delay or suspected ASD are having to pay privately for speech therapy because we have NHS waiting lists here of at least two years and they aren’t considered severe enough to meet the threshold for urgent help. It’s not at all surprising to me that more families are choosing to focus what resources they do have available on one child.

For us it isn’t even particularly about money really - it’s more about having the time, headspace and flexibility to fight for things that you didn’t used to have to fight for, like healthcare (£175 for private hearing test for DD as she failed her NHS school one but our local NHS trust won’t do any follow up audiology) and decent school places (with one child we have the flexibility to move to an area with a good comprehensive, rather than facing the choice we have now of a super strict academy or super selective grammar school). We always have an eye to the future in terms of helping DD through university, with housing etc - it’s not that we’re wanting to spoil her or pay for everything, but rather that we want her to have the same opportunities we had, but which are now much further out of reach for the average young person.

Secondly it’s seeing how incredibly frazzled and stretched all of our friends who do have 2+ DC (still the norm here) are. If it’s a choice between being too hyper focused or being constantly distracted, torn between the demands of work and home life and feeling constantly guilty, I’m pleased we took the former route! As @NeedMyDress says, many parents nowadays don’t have local family support (most of our friends are in this boat) and are trying to negotiate all this alone. My own parents are local but too elderly to provide any real childcare help and they’re not especially interested anyway. So we’ve cut our cloth accordingly!

Wolfricbriandumbledore · 25/09/2023 10:02

Comedycook · 25/09/2023 09:30

Yes it's crazy. Women in the old days put their babies in the pram at the end of the garden and got on with their cleaning

Are you suggesting it was better in the good old days where women were too often stuck at home, and in situations where regressive social attitudes and a lack of labour-saving devices meant these women had to spend most of every day shopping, cooking and cleaning?

I am the eldest of a large family brought up in exactly this way, and it was utterly miserable. My parents were also brought up this way, and as a result had absolutely no idea how to parent.

Comedycook · 25/09/2023 10:04

Wolfricbriandumbledore · 25/09/2023 10:02

Are you suggesting it was better in the good old days where women were too often stuck at home, and in situations where regressive social attitudes and a lack of labour-saving devices meant these women had to spend most of every day shopping, cooking and cleaning?

I am the eldest of a large family brought up in exactly this way, and it was utterly miserable. My parents were also brought up this way, and as a result had absolutely no idea how to parent.

There is a middle ground between that and micro managing every aspect of your child's life.

MsLavender · 25/09/2023 10:19

I only have DS 13 and wouldn't have any more. One reason being a traumatic pregnancy. The main reason though is that I split from his dad when he was young, if I got with someone else and had a child with them I would worry about the impact on DS because his dad isn't around and the second childs dad would be. Not only that but his dad is on drugs and in and out of prison (obviously he wasn't when we got together), he's not in DS life so he's had a lot to deal with in regards to his dad, if he had a half sibling with a decent father how would that affect him? if I then split with the second childs father and that dad took their child on holidays how would DS feel? Then of course second childs father could leave them a lot of money whereas DS won't have a penny from his father, I couldn't do it to him, I wouldn't risk it.

Uggtrending · 25/09/2023 10:25

@MsLavender you've given some really good reasons. I have an only my situation is a bit different but ultimately I wouldn't want the risk if a new child and relationship didn't work out then my DS I've got now goes to his dad's EOW. I couldn't cope with the thought of 1 child seeing his dad and the other one not plus he's 8 now so that boats sailed for me. I would have loved having 2 boys though!

kikisparks · 25/09/2023 11:31

Comedycook · 25/09/2023 10:04

There is a middle ground between that and micro managing every aspect of your child's life.

A middle ground I’m sure many parents, including those who have one child, manage to achieve.

TarquinOliverNimrod · 25/09/2023 12:40

I’m one and done. DH and I love being parents to our son, but have no desire for another. It’s not about money, we are comfortable financially. It’s about headspace, mental and physical pressure. Having the capacity to be a great parent and a decent husband or wife.

If we added another human to care and nurture to a certain standard, we’d both be exhausted. We wouldn’t have the time or energy we have now to devote to our son, and to one another; as well as providing a loving and stable environment for our son, the health and happiness of our marriage is very important to us.

DH is an only, he had a fantastic childhood and revelled in all the attention and love that was bestowed upon him by his adoring parents. He is now a very well rounded, confident, not to mention, charismatic adult. You can’t love a child too much and to suggest otherwise is ludicrous. Children thrive on love and attention.

ChChChCherryBomb · 25/09/2023 12:56

TempsPerdu · 25/09/2023 09:34

@Comedycook I think this is true to a point - we have an only and are very conscious of not being overbearing or smothering, and ensuring that DD learns to be independent, amuse herself etc. I definitely agree that this can be a bit harder to achieve with just the one child, as you need to specifically ‘teach’ these skills, rather than having your attention naturally divided by a second or third DC.

But for me it’s two things: firstly, the fact that resources and opportunities for the average family are becoming much scarcer than they were when I was growing up (or even than they were a decade ago) - not just personal finances but education, social mobility, healthcare, housing, even environmental resources are reducing in quality, affordability and accessibility. Just one small example - my brother had free NHS speech therapy back in the ‘80s because he was struggling to pronounce one particular sound properly; now friends whose DC have a severe speech delay or suspected ASD are having to pay privately for speech therapy because we have NHS waiting lists here of at least two years and they aren’t considered severe enough to meet the threshold for urgent help. It’s not at all surprising to me that more families are choosing to focus what resources they do have available on one child.

For us it isn’t even particularly about money really - it’s more about having the time, headspace and flexibility to fight for things that you didn’t used to have to fight for, like healthcare (£175 for private hearing test for DD as she failed her NHS school one but our local NHS trust won’t do any follow up audiology) and decent school places (with one child we have the flexibility to move to an area with a good comprehensive, rather than facing the choice we have now of a super strict academy or super selective grammar school). We always have an eye to the future in terms of helping DD through university, with housing etc - it’s not that we’re wanting to spoil her or pay for everything, but rather that we want her to have the same opportunities we had, but which are now much further out of reach for the average young person.

Secondly it’s seeing how incredibly frazzled and stretched all of our friends who do have 2+ DC (still the norm here) are. If it’s a choice between being too hyper focused or being constantly distracted, torn between the demands of work and home life and feeling constantly guilty, I’m pleased we took the former route! As @NeedMyDress says, many parents nowadays don’t have local family support (most of our friends are in this boat) and are trying to negotiate all this alone. My own parents are local but too elderly to provide any real childcare help and they’re not especially interested anyway. So we’ve cut our cloth accordingly!

This is a great post!

Thepeopleversuswork · 25/09/2023 13:28

@Comedycook

Parenting is very different now for sure. Most women have to work as well. But parents are now so much more invested and involved with every aspect of their children's life. I'm not sure it's healthy for either party. Lots of parents of only children on here saying they have more one on one time, can give their child more attention and more financial assistance. It's all very intense.

I don't think having more money and more resources automatically equals more "intense", I think that's just your interpretation. And try as I might I can't persuade myself that having more money is a bad thing for a kid (unless we're talking about Paris Hilton levels of money, which for the most part we're not).

I also think the rose-tinted glasses for the days of large families with a SAHM and kids being "kicked out" to play in the street is slightly overdone tbh. Having a large number children who never get any attention from their parents isn't necessarily a recipe for happiness or success. It's only nostalgia.

Also let's be honest being at home with three or four kids creating an endless cycles of washing, cooking and cleaning for a ragged mum isn't every woman's idea of a delightful life. I would never have considered having more kids but no job a better alternative than what I have now, which is a life balanced between the one kid I do have and can afford and the job I like and which brings in money. Works for me.

Comedycook · 25/09/2023 14:09

Thepeopleversuswork · 25/09/2023 13:28

@Comedycook

Parenting is very different now for sure. Most women have to work as well. But parents are now so much more invested and involved with every aspect of their children's life. I'm not sure it's healthy for either party. Lots of parents of only children on here saying they have more one on one time, can give their child more attention and more financial assistance. It's all very intense.

I don't think having more money and more resources automatically equals more "intense", I think that's just your interpretation. And try as I might I can't persuade myself that having more money is a bad thing for a kid (unless we're talking about Paris Hilton levels of money, which for the most part we're not).

I also think the rose-tinted glasses for the days of large families with a SAHM and kids being "kicked out" to play in the street is slightly overdone tbh. Having a large number children who never get any attention from their parents isn't necessarily a recipe for happiness or success. It's only nostalgia.

Also let's be honest being at home with three or four kids creating an endless cycles of washing, cooking and cleaning for a ragged mum isn't every woman's idea of a delightful life. I would never have considered having more kids but no job a better alternative than what I have now, which is a life balanced between the one kid I do have and can afford and the job I like and which brings in money. Works for me.

Yes I do agree to a certain extent. I just think only child discussions always seem to focus on how parents can have more one on one time and I actually think the benefits of having a sibling can easily outweigh that.

Letitgonowgr · 25/09/2023 14:11

I have one 5 year old, my sister has one 9 year old and brother has one 13 year old. All for different reasons… me because I struggled and he only just sleeps, sister for financial reasons and age and brother wanted more but they weren’t able to due to infertility.
There are many reasons but yes am sure the cost puts people off!

Thepeopleversuswork · 25/09/2023 14:16

@Comedycook

Yes I do agree to a certain extent. I just think only child discussions always seem to focus on how parents can have more one on one time and I actually think the benefits of having a sibling can easily outweigh that.

Hmmmm. Having a sibling might outweigh it, it might not: it's a lottery. For everyone I know who has a close relationship with their siblings I know at least two whose relationship is poor or just not particularly close. It's by no means guaranteed that having a sibling will enhance a child's life.

Given that another sibling will at minimum cost you tens of thousands of pounds more to support and if you're a woman will certainly set your career back many more years it's quite a gamble. I personally wasn't prepared to make that. (I wasn't in a position to anyway but I would have been reluctant to if I could have.)

I think the fact that having children is so expensive and so damaging to career progress and financial independence puts a lot of women off having more than they think they can support on their own.