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Russel has spoken

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Whyismyfacealwaysdry · 22/09/2023 22:31

On Instagram, has anyone seen? What are your thoughts?

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browneyes77 · 25/09/2023 23:40

Jumpingthruhoops · 25/09/2023 13:36

🤦🏼‍♀️

Facepalm all you like, but you’re just showing your ignorance.

Having a ‘consensual relationship’ with someone, is not the same as someone giving sexual consent. A husband who forces himself on his wife is still committing rape, despite the fact they’re in a marriage.

His wording is questionable, given the other wording he could’ve chosen.

greenhydrangea · 25/09/2023 23:46

Jumpingthruhoops · 25/09/2023 23:33

Are you serious!? Yes, he WAS a heroin addict but, at 20 years clean, don't you think he may have changed, just a tad?

Fair play to you, though. It must be so lovely being whiter than white. 🙄

His reported rapes and SA were committed when he was in recovery.

Jumpingthruhoops · 25/09/2023 23:53

bombastix · 25/09/2023 17:32

@SatsumaNightmare / in my view journalism is exactly for that.

However, we do have s society that is increasingly divided because we have a media full of opinion.

Contrary to conspiracy theorists who don't deal with facts, who suggest thoughts or give opinions inviting you to make your own conclusions, fact based media is a very good thing.

There used to be a lot more of it.

Social media is opinion. That is why it has messed us up so much. But this is another thread.

By 'fact-based media' do you mean the BBC? Because throughout covid, they literally became the PR arm of the UK Govt!

As I've mentioned before, 'fact-based media' was strictly prohibited from running anything negative about the 'covid response'. So, if you like, it wasn't about the information they were giving us, but what they weren't!

People had to look elsewhere for answers - and naturally turned to the internet, which wasn't bound by the same restrictions. That's why the likes of RB gained such a following because he was presenting information that wasn't WIDELY available via the MSM.

Jumpingthruhoops · 25/09/2023 23:56

SatsumaNightmare · 25/09/2023 17:38

And yet repeatedly we see cases, at a later date, where they aren’t.

It’s also interesting how many people in this thread attribute Brand’s motives regarding his videos as nefarious because he makes money yet nobody has also recognised that the media has conflicting priorities (if one thinks they strive to be fact based) because they are also there to make money.

100% this! 👏👏

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Jumpingthruhoops · 26/09/2023 00:14

Biochemist · 25/09/2023 19:14

It is quite possible to take a quote or statistic out of context from a reputable source, and make it mean whatever you want it to.

The entire anti-vaccine industry is built on using this tactic. I can't speak for his other videos, but ones regarding COVID and vaccines are complete and utter nonsense @Jumpingthruhoops

Scientists - real ones - are concerned about worsening overall health and increased mortality. There are multiple contributing factors which are being robustly evaluated.

They aren't however pinning it on a vaccine that the majority had over two years ago. What he's doing is incredibly irresponsible.

There is no suggestion he has been 'taken it out of context' though.

Like I said upthread, the sources he cites are available to the public, they just have to know where to look. So if they were to look they could easily see for themselves whether it had been taken out of context.

Jumpingthruhoops · 26/09/2023 00:16

vlo · 25/09/2023 19:22

Christ, just taken a glance at the youtube video he released today. Brazen – all guns blazing, 30 mins talking about how he’s being silenced.

I don’t think the stuff he talks about is ‘conspiracy theory’ stuff (ie nonsense paranoia) – the pharmaceutical industry, the relationship between the media and the state, etc., etc. – they’re all topics worthy of discussion and scrutiny. There are obviously plenty of shady parties out there trying to manipulate public discourse and information in the public realm for their own gain – I mean just look at Brexit, or have a read of ‘Bad Pharma’ by Ben Goldacre.

The only thing I’d contest is that his discussing these things explains away the allegations against him – he’s obviously repurposed this as a motive for attacking him.

It’s v weird to watch.

This! 👏👏

Jumpingthruhoops · 26/09/2023 00:19

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Theoriginalmrscillianmurphy · 26/09/2023 00:23

Alleged rapist.

He can never even have a fair trial now.

bombastix · 26/09/2023 00:46

@Jumpingthruhoops / you've attributed all sorts of things "fact based media".

Investigative journalism is part of democracy. It's part of how we hold people accountable for what they do. Facts are the evidence that makes for accountability or not. You can test them in a court of law, or in peer review scientific paper.

Our society is saturated with people who present their opinion as fact. A lot of them are on social media.

I don't believe Brand's dribble because it is fact free. He has no credentials to make me think yes, I should listen to him. He could be talking about anything because he has no expertise but to ask questions which are not concluded by fact or evidence.

This matters because facts are the source of making good decisions or bad ones. Opinions are different. They are there to lead and influence. The thinking is done for you.

When we look at Brand's alleged behaviour, we look at facts not opinion of him. That is a good thing. It's good for him and us. But if we say well his opinion should change us, then we are sheep, simply manipulated.

If Brand ever puts his thoughts on the covid vaccine into s book makes use of facts I would think differently. But he doesn't and so he's not to be taken seriously.

Claiming the sky is falling in is the old trick in the book along with his side hustle of wellness. In the 1960s he would probably been one of those loons in the California hills with a group of daft followers but today he can simply be on YouTube.

bemorebernard · 26/09/2023 00:58

I refuse to watch him "speak" now because I resent lining g his deep pockets after these allegations have surfaced

I'm not giving him a bloody penny

And the title Russel has spoken - he's not the messiah , as much as he'd like to think he's the second coming

He's a rapist . Or he was. A women using rapist dickhead and I'm not interested in anything he has to say , I dont wanna see him in an ice bath or doing yoga or loving his dog .

These women have remained anonymous and aren't benefiting in any way . And I believe he was so out of control, such a sex addict he has done what they say . Yeah he can turn it all around now he's settled down, married, got clean , it doesn't change the past .

So Russell can go stick his videos up his arse .

Blueink · 26/09/2023 01:28

So many posts and statistics shared about how hard is it to convict for these type of crime, especially when the victims are know to each other in a “consensual relationship’.

Plus he is very well connected legally and financially. He previously was able to turn an allegation of harassment on to a woman who was trying to be heard. RB has a loud voice. The women have been living in silence.

1% conviction versus 99% go free. He has a good chance! Plus Kevin Spacey.

Those least likely to have a voice and see justice are the women.

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/09/2023 01:35

Theoriginalmrscillianmurphy · 26/09/2023 00:23

Alleged rapist.

He can never even have a fair trial now.

Of course he can. Kevin Spacey managed it. Even Lucy Letby wasn't found guilty of all the crimes she was accused of by the same jury that found her guilty of multiple child murders.

Russell Brand is not a victim. He hasn't been silenced and he didn't give a shit about free speech when he was silencing women with the threat of litigation.

Russell Brand is a rich, relatively powerful, whiny as fuck, multiple sex offender.

Blueink · 26/09/2023 01:42

To add, of the 1% convicted only 20% are known to each other, versus 80% stranger attacks.

RB has great odds but he looks desperate by screeching conspiracy.

oakleaffy · 26/09/2023 03:08

ThreeLocusts · 22/09/2023 23:05

Of course! That's who he reminded me of. Couldn't put my finger on it.

BTW. Surely a certain frequency of allegations makes the 'alleged' unnecessary? Unless you think it's really possible that the 'deep state' is behind it.

YES!! Manson vibes. Absolutely it.

Horribly creepy

oakleaffy · 26/09/2023 03:09

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ChillysWaterBottle · 26/09/2023 03:56

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newnamethanks · 26/09/2023 06:22

"I'VE BEEN SILENCED!" He shouted.

WarriorN · 26/09/2023 06:33

He can never even have a fair trial now

The whole point of a fair trial is that they can absolutely make it a fair trial.

They've always had to do this as public figures have always been accused of all manner of things.

WarriorN · 26/09/2023 06:34

newnamethanks · 26/09/2023 06:22

"I'VE BEEN SILENCED!" He shouted.

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Jumpingthruhoops · 26/09/2023 08:26

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greenhydrangea · 26/09/2023 08:44

I'd probably stop now. You're starting to sound a bit silly.

This would be good advice for you to follow. You've been sounding silly for a couple of days now.

The police have reported a "significant number" of women have now come forward with claims of sexual assault by Brand, and they are investigating.

sashh · 26/09/2023 08:56

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Er just because something is reported in the BMJ does not mean it is 'fact'. It means a scientific paper has been written and peer reviewed.

It is very rare for anything to actually 'prove' anything, usually that wins a nobel prize.

As for alleged not being fact, well it could be a fact, you don't know yet. You can look at the evidence eg the woman who allegedly turned around in the bathroom to be faced with RB's cock and him saying he is going to have sex with her, then 20 mins later, on air, he is joking about it with his co host, and the woman making two complaints to the BBC.

That's evidence.

Drivingone · 26/09/2023 09:03

I'd probably stop now. You're starting to sound a bit silly.

Great example of projection right there.

bombastix · 26/09/2023 09:04

@Jumpingthruhoops if you work in the media then you are symptomatic of the problems we have.

The facts here are that women have made allegations. Those aren't opinions.

Now, whether it's a matter of criminal law is for the police.

The media has always reported allegations. That is part of their role.

Brand has zero credibility to present other people's work. None. They do not agree with his suggestions, insinuations and rhetorical devices he uses to manipulate people. If they did, they would say so. Their silence is deafening.

It is the last hope of someone like Brand that he will find enough gullible people to listen to him without asking any questions of his motivation or presentation.

You want to ask yourself why you have decided to give your own thinking over to him instead of engaging with people of real expertise and experience. What does it do for you?

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