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Gen Z can’t work with people with different views?

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MaggieBsBoat · 22/09/2023 20:25

I saw this on my LinkedIn feed just now and have been thinking about it. I’ve been ‚disowned‘ (for want of a better term ‘by a few gen z family members as I don’t agree with them on things and I often wondered how common this was. Anyone else? If so, why do you think that is? For me if was because I’m a TERF (apparently).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12542363/generation-z-alex-mahon-channel-4-gen-z-cambridge-convention.html?ico=amp-comments-viewall&_gl=11h9xcpc_ga*d0NYeGJuOHRRXzFQOFhuTHZqYXctSklzSTkwQXFIaUhtbGRNVy1RUEhQWHNQRHREOF9sVmJTVklPNlZaaXZYaA..#comments-12542363

Gen Z can't work with people with different views says Channel 4 boss

Channel 4 boss Alex Mahon (pictured) said 'particularly post-pandemic' Gen Z youngsters 'haven't got the skills to discuss' and 'haven't got the skills to disagree'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12542363/generation-z-alex-mahon-channel-4-gen-z-cambridge-convention.html?ico=amp-comments-viewall&_gl=1*1h9xcpc*_ga*d0NYeGJuOHRRXzFQOFhuTHZqYXctSklzSTkwQXFIaUhtbGRNVy1RUEhQWHNQRHREOF9sVmJTVklPNlZaaXZYaA..#comments-12542363

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PinkFrogss · 22/09/2023 20:27

I don’t think that’s true at all, there plenty of Gen Z individuals who are very successful at work in a variety of work cultures.

Its just ageism at its finest, simple as that.

user76541055773 · 22/09/2023 20:29

I don’t think it’s a generational thing, no. But I do think it’s part of “cancel culture” and I hope we get back to a point where people with differing views can discuss and debate them.

Some of my best friends have wildly different political views and it makes for a really interesting evening with a bottle of wine. And sometimes people are persuaded of each others points of view.

Encouragingly, it’s the same for my 17 year old DS with his friends 🙂

Changingplace · 22/09/2023 20:32

I’ve seen this in the workplace, a real inflexibility and lack of comprehension from a younger generation that other people can have valid different opinions but you can still work alongside them.

GarlicGrace · 22/09/2023 20:32

I can't figure out if they've been too cosseted to develop flexibility, or if it's just a fad. All the safe spaces and trigger warnings, etc, feels like overkill but also a bit too sudden, so I'm hoping it's more of a fashion than an actual failure in social development.

My Gen Z nieces & nephews are capable of understanding different perspectives and thinking for themselves but, yeah, there does seem to be a widespread tendency to stamp their offended feet if asked to question their assumptions.

Legale · 22/09/2023 20:34

Nope, just ageism. DP is gen Z, I'm a millenial (I think!). I would say he is overall much more accepting than me and gets on fine with everyone at work.

donquixotedelamancha · 22/09/2023 20:39

It's certainly true that intolerance and polarization has got much worse. I do think it's more prevalent in the young but it's certainly not unique to them and there are plenty of young people who hate it.

I've just had to tell off someone (at a hobby group I run) for blocking JKR on our Twitter account- he's older than me.

AutumnFroglets · 22/09/2023 20:41

I disagree actually. I have a Gen Z and a Millennial child and the Millennial one and her peers is the unbending, I know more/better attitude. The Gen Z and her peers are too scared of being cancelled for saying the wrong thing.

Sparklesocks · 22/09/2023 20:42

I don’t think it’s fair to generalise an entire generation and say they can’t do X, in the same way some people say boomers can’t do tech at work etc. The Gen Z staff at my office work very hard and are friendly with everyone.

cuddlebear · 22/09/2023 20:44

Horrible ageism.

Isitsixoclockalready · 22/09/2023 20:44

Agree with Sparklesocks - generalising is unhelpful.

allhellcantstopusnow · 22/09/2023 20:46

I imagine they disowned you because you read the Daily Mail. Fair game I reckon.

thedancingbear · 22/09/2023 20:47

Pop over to your ‘gender critical’ board and see how much tolerance of different views you find there. You and I both know that it’s not populated by twenty-somethings.

tolerance works in both directions, you know.

Hufflepods · 22/09/2023 20:49

Classic mumsnet only having an issue with ageism when it’s aimed at older women but they are perfectly happy with it in reverse.

Immoralplant · 22/09/2023 20:50

thedancingbear I think you are confusing 'intolerance' with disagreement.

blahblahblah1654 · 22/09/2023 20:51

Yeah I can't believe it's ok to criticise one generation but not another. Middle age women are up in arms when they are criticised and generalised so why is ok to moan about the younger generation this way?

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/09/2023 20:51

Twatty cancelling and all that nonsense is promoted as being Gen Z but actually beardy twats in their 40s and 50s are the ones throwing their toys out the pram.

And @thedancingbear the FWR is open to hearing other ideas, engaging with them and yes, vehemently disagreeing. Arguing with someone is not the same as calling for them to be arrested and lose their livelihood. I don't have to agree with you. I can hear you, disagree and move on. The right not to be slightly disturbed by someone not affirming everything you say doesn't exist. It's not FWR with death threats.

minou123 · 22/09/2023 20:53

allhellcantstopusnow · 22/09/2023 20:46

I imagine they disowned you because you read the Daily Mail. Fair game I reckon.

😁

I agree.
It's the typical lazy "journalism" fodder, creating division between the generations
▪︎ Boomers are so called "greedy, selfish, racists"
▪︎ Millennials are so called " lazy, avocado guzzling, snowflakes"
▪︎Gen Z are so called "rude, intolerant gobshites"

I'm so pleased I belong to Gen X, where we are left the fuck alone and dont have to endure this shite.

Spirallingdownwards · 22/09/2023 20:54

I disagree. But I do think younger people are more prepared to call older people out for bigoted or racist or misogynistic views and may choose not to associate with you if you hold such views.

HamBone · 22/09/2023 20:54

I think the majority of Gen Z is still pretty young, right? My two are Gen Z’s (18 and 15) and we put a big emphasis on the art of debate, listening to differing opinions, plus doing your research before blindly agreeing with other people.

I think the “cancellers”of recent years are getting older now, they’re close to 30 and will be complaining about ageism soon!

Peverellshire · 22/09/2023 20:56

The v smart I know don’t seem to understand J.K Rowling’s stance on Trans etc & see only bigotry. This worries me.

WelcomeToLagos · 22/09/2023 20:57

I think a 15 year old would officially be Gen alpha?

Anyway, I don’t really find it to be true, and the Gen Z’s that I work with are bigger TERFs than me (and that’s saying something!) It’s great.

HamBone · 22/09/2023 20:57

I'm so pleased I belong to Gen X, where we are left the fuck alone and dont have to endure this shite.

@minou123 Don't speak too soon, once the so-called Boomers die out, someone somewhere will need some older people to blame, and they’ll be us. 🤣

thedancingbear · 22/09/2023 20:58

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/09/2023 20:51

Twatty cancelling and all that nonsense is promoted as being Gen Z but actually beardy twats in their 40s and 50s are the ones throwing their toys out the pram.

And @thedancingbear the FWR is open to hearing other ideas, engaging with them and yes, vehemently disagreeing. Arguing with someone is not the same as calling for them to be arrested and lose their livelihood. I don't have to agree with you. I can hear you, disagree and move on. The right not to be slightly disturbed by someone not affirming everything you say doesn't exist. It's not FWR with death threats.

That’s not I see (and, fwiw, I agree with the thrust of what’s posted there). Dissenting voices are bullied off the board.

But we can agree to disagree on that, can’t we?

HamBone · 22/09/2023 20:58

WelcomeToLagos · 22/09/2023 20:57

I think a 15 year old would officially be Gen alpha?

Anyway, I don’t really find it to be true, and the Gen Z’s that I work with are bigger TERFs than me (and that’s saying something!) It’s great.

@WelcomeToLagos A quick Google says Gen Z spans 1997-2012, but who knows and really cares for that matter!

minou123 · 22/09/2023 21:04

HamBone · 22/09/2023 20:57

I'm so pleased I belong to Gen X, where we are left the fuck alone and dont have to endure this shite.

@minou123 Don't speak too soon, once the so-called Boomers die out, someone somewhere will need some older people to blame, and they’ll be us. 🤣

😂

They can give it a go, but I dont think any of us Gen Z will care.

Here's the only a bit of true generalisation from me:
Gen Z - we don't give a fuck
😁

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