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Gen Z can’t work with people with different views?

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MaggieBsBoat · 22/09/2023 20:25

I saw this on my LinkedIn feed just now and have been thinking about it. I’ve been ‚disowned‘ (for want of a better term ‘by a few gen z family members as I don’t agree with them on things and I often wondered how common this was. Anyone else? If so, why do you think that is? For me if was because I’m a TERF (apparently).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12542363/generation-z-alex-mahon-channel-4-gen-z-cambridge-convention.html?ico=amp-comments-viewall&_gl=11h9xcpc_ga*d0NYeGJuOHRRXzFQOFhuTHZqYXctSklzSTkwQXFIaUhtbGRNVy1RUEhQWHNQRHREOF9sVmJTVklPNlZaaXZYaA..#comments-12542363

Gen Z can't work with people with different views says Channel 4 boss

Channel 4 boss Alex Mahon (pictured) said 'particularly post-pandemic' Gen Z youngsters 'haven't got the skills to discuss' and 'haven't got the skills to disagree'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12542363/generation-z-alex-mahon-channel-4-gen-z-cambridge-convention.html?ico=amp-comments-viewall&_gl=1*1h9xcpc*_ga*d0NYeGJuOHRRXzFQOFhuTHZqYXctSklzSTkwQXFIaUhtbGRNVy1RUEhQWHNQRHREOF9sVmJTVklPNlZaaXZYaA..#comments-12542363

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Snoozysnoozy · 22/09/2023 21:54

Way to prove a point.

Dymaxion · 22/09/2023 21:54

Were you on my work conference call? No @minou123 but I bet your opinion was spot on Wink

Dymaxion · 22/09/2023 21:58

I started work in an environment where the Boss would stalk into the office, point at you and shout 'you, dickhead, in my office, now' and you would grab your marlboro lights and can of diet coke and scurry after her, knowing you could string out the bollocking to a 3 fag break Grin

CheshireCat1 · 22/09/2023 22:03

Personally I think everyone is unique, has differing opinions and personalities regardless of which generation they are. I don’t think attaching labels to groups is a positive thing.

Blinky21 · 22/09/2023 22:06

Considered reading it until I saw it was the DM and assume it's just ageist trip written for boomers

Dymaxion · 22/09/2023 22:09

Personally I think everyone is unique, has differing opinions and personalities regardless of which generation they are. I don’t think attaching labels to groups is a positive thing.

You are probably right @CheshireCat1 but its sometimes fun trying Wink

JaneJeffer · 22/09/2023 22:18

Gen Z are nothing like the media would have you believe and they are not afraid to give their opinion.

Gen Z can’t work with people with different views?
Dymaxion · 22/09/2023 22:20

@JaneJeffer God I loved that film Grin

JaneJeffer · 22/09/2023 22:22

Have another one @Dymaxion

Gen Z can’t work with people with different views?
PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer · 22/09/2023 22:23

@Dymaxion · Today 21:46

@PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer the heady delights of making a mix tape for someone you fancied, the amount of effort you went to, to show someone you quite liked them !

Aww, I used to do this for myself too. 😆 I had about 25 of them. Binned them all but 3 about a decade ago when we downsized our house. Regret it, but at least I have 3 still!

@AutumnFroglets and @DialSquare I did kinda carry on the highlighting the TV TIMES, til about 15 years ago. But there started to be sooooooooo much and so many listings, that I started going through the TV guide (on the TV) instead, and put 'Christmas' and 'Festive' into the search bar to seek stuff out... Grin

I may give it (highlighting in the TV TIMES) another go this year!

PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer · 22/09/2023 22:25

Dymaxion · 22/09/2023 21:39

Every Gen X woman I know has the 'special face' which is combination of 'Oh fuck !, Really !, slightly interested polite smile, combined with eyes that are away off checking lists in their brain, so a glazed look over peoples shoulders, whilst perspiring and wondering what the chuff they are going to make for Dinner or tea, depending on geography and socio-economic class'

Don't under any circumstances ask them for their opinion on anything at this point in time, because you will get it and you probably won't like it Grin

Grin
PomegranateRose · 22/09/2023 22:27

I think it's less "different" views and more views that involve denying other people rights and space to exist.

I work with people across all age groups every single day, and worked in education for a few years before that too. I can safely say that in those seven years so far, the younger generations have been by far the most tolerant and open-minded, on average.

Dymaxion · 22/09/2023 22:33

I think it's less "different" views and more views that involve denying other people rights and space to exist.

Go on ?

VeronicaSawyer89 · 22/09/2023 22:48

minou123 · 22/09/2023 20:53

😁

I agree.
It's the typical lazy "journalism" fodder, creating division between the generations
▪︎ Boomers are so called "greedy, selfish, racists"
▪︎ Millennials are so called " lazy, avocado guzzling, snowflakes"
▪︎Gen Z are so called "rude, intolerant gobshites"

I'm so pleased I belong to Gen X, where we are left the fuck alone and dont have to endure this shite.

I think us Xers are mostly left alone because everyone forgets we exist. 😂

Merrilydancing · 22/09/2023 23:12

I like the Gen z at my work. They are funny, polite, so full of energy, say and do stupid things all the time, just like I did at that age.

I’m sure some will be a pain in the arse just like my fellow gen x, although they will never look at the BT tower and get nostalgic for Christmas’s past!

JuliusWho · 22/09/2023 23:21

My personal experience is that my Gen Z colleagues quietly and professionally go about their jobs.

My older co-workers (and I’m not sure if they’re all boomers or if some are at the older end of Gen X) for some reason have all, at one time or another, found it necessary to air sweeping, unprompted and negative views on certain races or nationalities.

To be honest, I do find that makes for a less comfortable working environment. Wouldn’t say I’m unable to work with them but it isn’t always pleasant.

TheGhostofLoganRoy · 22/09/2023 23:29

I've worked with individuals of all ages who are inflexible and won't tolerate or accept opinions other than their own.

Sure, there are some Gen Zs who are super "woke" and won't tolerate (dismiss as bigoted) anything that doesn't fit their world view.

But come on, we all know plenty of older people who are extremely rigid in their worldview and dismiss anything that's not pretty far right wing as "woke nonsense." Look how many MNers there are who dismiss anyone who suggests that maybe black people shouldn't be shot dead for suspected shoplifting, or that it's fine for kids to know that gay people exist, as "wokester nonsense critical race theory ideology" (there have been threads where black British posters have shared their personal experience of racism in this country and been told they've just been brainwashed by "American critical race theory" and "wokeness" ffs).

That's just as extreme an example of not tolerating opposing opinions as anything the most trans-flag waving, BLM protest going, greenest-haired youngsters do, yet it's those posters who always demonize Gen Z as the intolerant ones.

aurynne · 22/09/2023 23:31

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/09/2023 21:21

Everyone knows that.

Why are we so great?

It's because we're so humble 😁

Oh, and because we don't give a fuck, in case it hasn't been said enough.

Presil · 22/09/2023 23:36

I don't think it's a gen z thing - the ones I know are pretty irreverent - but society in general seems to be going through a fairly puritanical phase. Not religious puritanism, but political/ideological puritanism, which I guess has taken the place of religion. I think these things tend to go in cycles - we had several decades of being pretty buttoned up 40s-60s, got a bit looser 70s-90s, and from 2000s on what's acceptable has got narrower and narrower. Instead of swinging out of it, possibly because there's no just so much to judge and analyse, a whole internet full of words, we do seem to be getting deeper into it. I mean I don't remember books being rewritten before, decades after they were published. Things like that are quite extreme. Hopefully we'll move out of it again but it is quite tiresome.

JuliusWho · 22/09/2023 23:47

Presil · 22/09/2023 23:36

I don't think it's a gen z thing - the ones I know are pretty irreverent - but society in general seems to be going through a fairly puritanical phase. Not religious puritanism, but political/ideological puritanism, which I guess has taken the place of religion. I think these things tend to go in cycles - we had several decades of being pretty buttoned up 40s-60s, got a bit looser 70s-90s, and from 2000s on what's acceptable has got narrower and narrower. Instead of swinging out of it, possibly because there's no just so much to judge and analyse, a whole internet full of words, we do seem to be getting deeper into it. I mean I don't remember books being rewritten before, decades after they were published. Things like that are quite extreme. Hopefully we'll move out of it again but it is quite tiresome.

Just because you don’t remember something doesn’t mean it wasn’t happening. Books being edited for contemporary sensibilities isn’t a new thing (the Dr Doolittle books, for example, were republished in the 70s with offensive language and plot points taken out).

There’s just a lot more handwringing about it these days because it fits nicely into certain political and media narratives.

Presil · 23/09/2023 00:06

Ah right fair enough, I didn't know that.

Mummyoflittledragon · 23/09/2023 00:07

Presil · 22/09/2023 23:36

I don't think it's a gen z thing - the ones I know are pretty irreverent - but society in general seems to be going through a fairly puritanical phase. Not religious puritanism, but political/ideological puritanism, which I guess has taken the place of religion. I think these things tend to go in cycles - we had several decades of being pretty buttoned up 40s-60s, got a bit looser 70s-90s, and from 2000s on what's acceptable has got narrower and narrower. Instead of swinging out of it, possibly because there's no just so much to judge and analyse, a whole internet full of words, we do seem to be getting deeper into it. I mean I don't remember books being rewritten before, decades after they were published. Things like that are quite extreme. Hopefully we'll move out of it again but it is quite tiresome.

Yes, it really is quite tiresome. My 15 yo dd is so much more strait laced than I ever was as a gen x. And I love the description of our lives upthread @PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer, so true.

Deathbyfluffy · 23/09/2023 00:16

Hufflepods · 22/09/2023 20:49

Classic mumsnet only having an issue with ageism when it’s aimed at older women but they are perfectly happy with it in reverse.

It’s much the same with sexism on here too - plenty willing to slate all men as one big group, but the world implodes if someone dares to call a woman out 😅

Presil · 23/09/2023 00:31

Gen X in the UK were the free range generation - we physically roamed about same as previous generations but had the added bonus that religion was really starting to lose its grip so we had fewer moral code type restrictions placed on us than them. In general.

I do think that the hands off approach to parenting would be considered lax now but as far as a lot of our parents were concerned we had nothing to worry about compared with what they experienced as children - there was a lot of poverty and general lack of amenities in the 30s, 40s and 50s.

PinkMoscatoLover · 23/09/2023 01:02

I’d love to know why no one can be ageist when it comes to people of older generations but when it’s to do with Gen Z, it’s free for all. Nonsense

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