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I still fancy RB

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WesterChick · 19/09/2023 23:16

I've watched the documentary.

I still fancy RB.

I identify as a radical feminist.

I'm married with kids.

I think that if you are a heterosexual woman, you are either in denial on what men are or you accept what they are but find them irresistibly sexually attractive and so continue to be with them.

RB is simply what the vast majority of men would be like if they could get away with it.

Therefore - and because he's bloody good looking, funny and intelligent - and sexy - I will continue to fancy the pants off him.

I think women who are being all shocked and descusted at his behaviour need to consider what men are actually like. There's not some massive demarcation between him and other men.

OP posts:
AllOfThemWitches · 20/09/2023 07:41

So, all men secretly want to rape women? Actually, I'm not that surprised to read that on mumsnet.

Moranguinho · 20/09/2023 07:43

There are many types of men and women, I choose not to be with the predatory type.

WesterChick · 20/09/2023 07:43

'In making him into a monster, we can conveniently pretend he existed in a vacuum rather than being a rather extreme version of the culture of the time.'

This.

OP posts:
Blacknosugarplease · 20/09/2023 07:44

ZenNudist · 19/09/2023 23:19

That Vladimir Putin is a bit of alright. Have you seen him with his top off riding a horse?

😂

FloorWipes · 20/09/2023 07:44

He has always been absolutely rancid.

Most men and not like him and most women are not attracted to it. You need to examine your grip on reality OP. No one is in denial, you are just confused and possibly traumatised, about which I am sorry.

AllOfThemWitches · 20/09/2023 07:45

I mean, he made himself a monster when he started raping women/girls.

AllOfThemWitches · 20/09/2023 07:45

If*

Tandora · 20/09/2023 07:46

WesterChick · 20/09/2023 07:43

'In making him into a monster, we can conveniently pretend he existed in a vacuum rather than being a rather extreme version of the culture of the time.'

This.

Yea this is a thoughtful analysis, unlike what you posted which was to exalt/ excuse a rapist.

SpringCalling · 20/09/2023 07:46

I remember finding him weirdly attractive back in the day. It's interesting to wonder why I wasn't shocked by what he said back then. I think I was shocked but as another poster said, everyone was laughing so assumed I was a prude. We were so programmed to accept the sexist shit back in the day. I clearly was incapable of the critical thinking some amazing women had to call it out even then. And when i was sexually assaulted I did the classic blaming myself. My dd will hopefully never fall for this narrative. When half of the population won't take it then it becomes rather irrelevant if most men may be similar if they could - because there will be nowhere to go with it. and i do think a decent proportion of men are truly incapable of this behaviour.

WesterChick · 20/09/2023 07:47

I'm not exalting him and neither do I expect you all to fancy him too.

I do still fancy him. Maybe it'll wear off given the huge mass of opposite opinion.

OP posts:
Maireas · 20/09/2023 07:47

ZenNudist · 19/09/2023 23:19

That Vladimir Putin is a bit of alright. Have you seen him with his top off riding a horse?

😂

Middleagedmeangirls · 20/09/2023 07:47

He looked scruffy, grubby and unattractive before this news came out and he still looks scruffy, grubby and unattractive. Like another sleaze Johnny Depp.

Thicklegs · 20/09/2023 07:48

Hi OP

In your fantasy of him, does he treat you better than he has other women? Are you the one that makes him see women differently? Or does he use you or rape you like he has others? Just want to understand the mindset.

I don't think other men are like him BTW. If you do think men are like him then I'm sorry for your bad experiences of men. Xx

WesterChick · 20/09/2023 07:48

Do you all seriously think times have moved on?! Look at the world. We live in a patriarchy where men take what they want. If you have a daughter, teach her well and hope for the best for her.

One of my friends teenage daughters came out as a lesbian recently and my friend confessed to feeling relieved that she wouldn't be dealing with predatory and controlling men.

OP posts:
skinnycrumpet · 20/09/2023 07:48

I wouldn’t touch him with a stick. He looks like the type of guy who never changes his bedsheets

IClaudine · 20/09/2023 07:48

There will always be women who are attracted to men who sex offend (if this is what RB is guilty of). Look at the women who write to rapists and murderers in prison. It is very troubling.

RB is quite a handsome man, it is true. But anyone who is still attracted to him now is probably a bit screwed up. I just see a sweaty, pervy woman hater now.

EarringsandLipstick · 20/09/2023 07:50

HopeMumsnet · 20/09/2023 06:56

Hi there,
We're intervening to say that this poster has been with us for many years so we are inclined to let her have her say, and for posters who disagree to have theirs.
Thanks.

You what?!

This is appalling MN.

'Have her say' sure.

Demean the situation of assault faced by many many women, for which sufficient evidence has been produced - not at all.

Do better, MN

Mrsjayy · 20/09/2023 07:50

WesterChick · 20/09/2023 07:47

I'm not exalting him and neither do I expect you all to fancy him too.

I do still fancy him. Maybe it'll wear off given the huge mass of opposite opinion.

He has always been disgusting and just used women to pleasure himself apart from the recent revelations how could you have ever found that attractive?

Tandora · 20/09/2023 07:50

I’m not exalting him

he's bloody good looking, funny and intelligent - and sexy - I will continue to fancy the pants off him

ohdamnitjanet · 20/09/2023 07:50

Speedweed · 20/09/2023 07:22

Morning Russell!

Now fuck off

😂 😂 😂

Maireas · 20/09/2023 07:51

How do you define "radical feminism" OP, because I'm quite intrigued.

EarringsandLipstick · 20/09/2023 07:51

Does literally nobody else think that most men would do what he did if they could get away with it?

Don't be so stupid.

No, I don't firstly.

And if you do, surely it still makes it entirely wrong & hardly someone you'd 'fancy'.

You're just being goady - shame on MN for facilitating it.

PosterBoy · 20/09/2023 07:51

He was hugely sexually popular with women for decades so, no, I am not surprised op. He literally wrote books about the thousands of women who voluntarily slept with him. No point us all pretending women always found him vile.

He never did anything for me,( although I might have given him a go, why not) because he looked like he'd be shit in bed. Selfish and quick. He's charismatic though.

Nannyfannybanny · 20/09/2023 07:51

He is scruffy,dirty looking,wild eyes (always looks like he's taken some illegal substance) weird,talks rubbish while trying to pop in the odd fancy word. Oh,is he a comedian, his behaviour a few years ago, targeting people with "prank" phone calls was sick and inexcusable.

EmmaPaella · 20/09/2023 07:52

Maireas · 20/09/2023 07:51

How do you define "radical feminism" OP, because I'm quite intrigued.

Me too.