To think this just sums up XL Bully owners?

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Look North last night. Peter Levy is interviewing a woman who owns two XL Bullys. Both cropped and docked which she says happened in another country before she got them (yeah, course it did).

Peter asks her “so why do people want these dogs in the first place, what’s the attraction for you?”

She replies “well I wanted dogs that were good with kids and famines and stuff so we got XL Bully’s cos they’re great with kids”

Wtf? If I didn’t know better I’d swear this was a spoof interview. Good with kids and families?? These dogs have been responsible for the most human deaths in dog attacks in the UK in recent years!!! Just last week an 11 year CHILD was attacked by one of these dogs … so when looking for a child friendly dog she bypasses the golden retriever etc and goes for the breed with the biggest track record of killing humans …

He then asked her if she will comply with the muzzle when the laws are changed - she said NO.

Then the cherry on the cake … he asked her “would you leave your child alone with these dogs?” And she said “yes, absolutely. I leave my two year old alone with them all the time whilst I’m busy making dinner etc”

Honestly the interview couldn’t have been any more gobsmacking.

This just sums up XL bully owners doesn’t it? Thick as pig shit with no regard to their own safety or the safety of others.

I bet she is a 'type', a 'cliche'- lower working class, uneducated, living in a rough area, displays tasteless status symbols, admires aggression as a means of anti-establishment defiance. I'd love to know how many if these dogs are owned by the same type- the majority I bet.

I overheard a conversation at the weekend where a man was talking about his young daughter and saying he was going to buy a dog that could grow up alongside her and would protect her. Then he said "yeah I'm thinking of one of those XL bullies". I had to really bite my tongue from piping up "you know that's more likely to kill her than protect her!". There were a few clues that this was not a man who was going to do any research or try and train the dog properly. (Although even with training, I wouldn't trust one with a young child). These people are just not understanding that if the dog turns, they will be very unlikely to be able to stop it. They seem to think it won't happen to them.

I just do not understand how anyone can think, yes an XL bully is the perfect family pet.

Drug dealer dogs innit

Yes! Originating from fighting pit bulls and this bloodline is the dominant bloodline in the UK.

@Twistedex but what do you say about all the evidence and experts saying that the breed has been taught to attack that's within them?

Like a sheep dog puppy will instinctively try and round up sheep?

It's always play until it isn't

Bully’s are in Pit Bull territory, they are being banned because they are not recognised as a breed in the UK. That’s more than likely the ban will go ahead.
It is the owner that is at fault totally. They need to do something to weed out irresponsible owners.

I'm university educated and work in a professional, skilled role. I was gifted my XL by some very good friends who had an accidental litter and who refused to let the pups go to anyone who wouldn't train them, love them, and be completely responsible. I've been around dogs my entire life and she's genuinely one of the best I've known. I also took the time to train my children in how to behave around dogs and how to read their behaviour, and they can handle her as well as I can.

I don't think all XL owners are thick, as clearly some aren't. But I do think they all have a blind spot when it comes to the breed. There are various things that worry me about the bully but in particular, their size and strength, their appeal to people who weaponise them and the fact that we do select dogs for certain traits and in this case it's aggression.

How old is your dog @Twistedex ? I have some experience with mastiffs and they can have distinct personality changes around the age of three. I don't know if the same is true of bullies but they do share some breeding. I would really watch out for that, as they can go from placid to hair trigger aggression. Some of it seems to be a kind of puberty stage, some of it I think might be that they develop joint problems and are in pain.

My dog was nearly torn to shreds by an XL bully. This bully was owned by a real chav who didn’t have a lead on it / no collar and it charged at my dog, pinned him down and ripped into
his neck and chest. All I could do was scream. My poor dog was bleeding everywhere and that bloody idiot just sauntered off without a backwards glance. I caught up with him once my dog was safely with a neighbour (DH ran him to the vets for surgery) and he said he “rescued him dog from a pub” - I could’ve punched him. He said his dog was great his grandkids but I warned him I would see their names in the news as that dog was unstable as his stupid reasoning for owning an aggressive dog. If I see an XL I turn around, I have no time for these dogs or their stupid owners.

This is why I'm hoping they ban anything with, for example, >20% pit bull DNA.

It stops new pit bull hybrids replacing XL Bullies and DNA testing dogs for breeds is very easy now.

"rescued the dog from a pub",has been said so many times I'm now taking that for drug dog dealers short hand...

Apparently they are part of a large network of dog breeders and it's also connected to drugs.

A lot of people unfortunately have bought into the "nanny dog" lie that was spread originally about pit bulls I think but has bled into these great ugly fuckers as well.

The "nanny dog" myth is so dangerous and toxic. Not only is it untrue, but it encourages people to leave children alone with dogs, thus risking more attacks. I've argued with people about it on MN previously - they insist that it's true, and that only anti-pitbull propangandists would say otherwise.

A nine-year-old boy was killed by his adult sister's three pitbulls in California a few years ago. She had previously posted this on Facebook:

I’m a vet and I’ve seen quite a few lovely ones and a small number of nasty ones. The problem is, even the nice ones are hard to control. A 2 year old came in last week to have a bandage placed. It took FOUR nurses to restrain her. These are people trained to hold dogs during procedures, usually needing 1/2 for a Labrador sized dog. We needed so many as whenever anyone praised her she would jump around. If she turned, we’d have no chance.

I'm always terribly saddened every time there's an attack; sad for the victims and their families, and sad for the dog that has attacked and will be destroyed. Because, whatever reason a dog attacks, it's in response to a situation or as a consequence of a condition or circumstance. It's not a decision that a dog makes through conscious thought, they don't have the same free will as humans, and they can't be 'evil'. That reason might be feeling threatened, being in pain, being trained to attack by humans, and any number of other reasons.

So yes, I do believe there's a risk in owning any dog, and good dog owners will do everything in their power to mitigate those risks. Obviously, because XL bullies are powerful by nature, there is a greater risk when people who shouldn't be allowed to own any dog get their hands on them and don't do anything to mitigate the risk of the dog being a danger to others. Or, worse still, deliberately raise them to be aggressive, nervous animals who are more likely to attack. As others have said, that applies to many breeds of dog, not just bullies, and they've all been subject to generalised, sweeping assumptions that they're dangerous, man-eating beasts over the years.

Oh OP your first post gave me a much needed giggle! And I agree with you.

I'm not the owner you intended this for...
But I'm presuming if the lady got pulled over the dog would turn with surprise and sniff/lick the lady's face.

Akitas are another breed that give me the scaries. I don’t feel the same way about Staffies as most are actually relatively average sized dogs. If I was scared of every staff I’d need to be scared of retrievers, Danes, setters etc

Being clever and ‘university educated’ isn’t going to protect you from an XL Bully attack

This is spooky, I was thinking the same. I'm in my 50s and when I was a child my neighbour also had a Staffie called Susie. Susie was tiny compared to the ones you see today. She was no bigger than my Westie.

Neighbour has two and they're impeccably well trained and friendly. He says they've got a bad enough rep as it is so need to be 100% well trained. The male one is a total wimp tbf.

You could put your car key in a safe place rather than own a potentially deadly dog.

I’m predicting the Cane Corso will be the next Dog of choice when it comes to penis extenders btw

Find me one piano playing Tate gallery visiting redbrick educated woman with an XL bully with cropped ears and tail.

I bet my house that you can't find one.

On the other hand, I do know a drug dealing wife beating twat with two of them. Go figure.

I'm honestly petrified of them, I saw one in my village, it's was massive like a freaking pony sized thing, I turned the other way, I'm going to stereotype now because the bloke was a chav so for me I was like typical boy wanting to look hard.

I don't get what people see in them i will never look at an XL bully and go "awww won't that make a lovely family pet". I've seen loads of post defending this breed and fair enough have your opinion on it, defend if you must but I think a few have lost their minds. The sooner this breeding stops the better.

Why do you presume that? The dog walker that got tangled in the leads and fell over in the park was then killed by her own bully xl.

I know. I wonder if some people actually understand what these animals are capable of.