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To not make Christmas dinner dairy free??

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Bellyblueboy · 17/09/2023 10:14

Very early I know! I cater Christmas dinner every year for my family. I am single and child free but I host for my parents, brother, sister and their families. My parents stay with me for a few nights. It’s a lot of work.

My nine year old nephew was diagnosed as lactose intolerant this year. So of course I will be researching this and making sure his starter, main and desert is lactose free. I even thought of putting little flags in bowls that are lactose free. I was going to order little flags with a picture of a cow crossed out! Make it fun.

my SIL has said it will be unfair if there is food on the table that he can’t eat so the whole meal has to be dairy free.

I order Black Forest gateau every year - my parents love it. Apparently no. He never eats it - I get kid friendly deserts for the four children.

I am a lazy cook - I get the whole meal from marks and Spencer! Prepared mash the lot. I am now told I can’t do this as there are milk products in the mashed and roast potatoes. It would be a huge amount of work to do everything from scratch, I don’t want that to be my Christmas Day and my cooking skills aren’t up to it.

I have said no - this is what I am doing. My brother is now annoyed that i won’t bend to his wife’s demands and have ruined Christmas. I had said he is welcome to come to my house and do the cooking, or host. Or eat at his house then come for coffee and presents. He has told on me! My mum is upset that she won’t have all her family round her at Christmas - dad was ill this year and they have been looking forward to a relaxing Christmas! Agh. It’s only September.

rant over. But honestly give it to me straight am I a selfish child hating spinster! Would you all accommodate this???

OP posts:
TurkeyLurkey4 · 17/09/2023 11:59

My child was dairy free for years (allergy, not intolerance). I never expected for her to be catered for exclusively like this. Especially not to the detriment of other people. Nephew is old enough to be told what he can and can’t have and why. How do they expect he’ll function at a birthday party etc? You’ve offered lots of reasonable suggestions and alternatives. They’re being demanding and entitled.

friendlycat · 17/09/2023 11:59

I hope your family see sense and recognise the generosity that you provide at Christmas with all this hosting.

I do a large pre Christmas bash for family (as we go on holiday at Christmas) and I always cater for dairy free and gluten free and others without dietary requirements.

You just have to be organised and have appropriate foods for all. I don’t make it all df or gf but give options for everyone. This is something he faces at school and in everyday life so it is for Christmas dinner as well.

You are obviously more than happy to accommodate his requirements but your family should also be delighted and happy that you are hosting and be polite and gracious in their acceptance of how you wish to host. Otherwise they host how they wish to at their home.

VickyEadieofThigh · 17/09/2023 12:00

Bellyblueboy · 17/09/2023 11:43

😂 okay - I wondered how long I would be attacked for being single and selfish.

to be honest I am shocked by this thread. Some of the comments have really upset me.

I live my nephew very much. I go out of my way to accommodate his food intolerance.

i will wait and see what reply I get from the family WhatsApp. The whole school hasn’t gone dairy free - he gets special
meals there and enjoys being special. His own parents haven’t gone dairy free in their house. I am not sure why I am
the unreasonable one here.

THEY ABU, NOT you.

The fact that the parents are not dairy-free at home, but are insisting YOU do this (?and you host them single-handedly for THREE DAYS!) is just outrageous.

I'd be chucking my rattle out of my pram and saying I'm not doing the hosting at all if it were me!

HelpWhatIf · 17/09/2023 12:01

Jesus Christ some of these messages!! OP, I am FIRMLY on your side here, and this is coming from someone with coeliac!!

Wetellyourstory · 17/09/2023 12:01

Please don’t take to heart some of the negatives comments on here saying you should do the whole dinner to suit your nephew. Two in our family have intolerances and one a severe allergy. When other family members host Christmas we go through the menu and I take suitable food items for us such as the puddings/gravy/yorkshires which are cooked separately if “normal” options aren’t suitable. I would never expect everyone to eat the same as us, mainly due to allergy/intolerance suitable food is so much more expensive and sometimes does not taste as nice.

As for flags, as adults we still like those as it shows care and thought has gone in to preparing/providing food that is suitable to eat.

Dobbyismyabsolutefav · 17/09/2023 12:01

YANBU, and I say this as a coeliac. You will obviously have alternatives for your nephew. I never have a meal with friends and expect to eat everything, same as in a restaurant as not every dish is gluten free.

PixiePirate · 17/09/2023 12:02

Not at all unreasonable of you. The world (and your Christmas) doesn’t revolve any one individual. Being inclusive and making something accessible to all (a nice celebratory meal in this case) doesn’t mean making it exactly the same for everyone. I think your family is being both unreasonable and rude.

Bellyblueboy · 17/09/2023 12:02

Spywoman · 17/09/2023 11:51

I don't understand why it's expected that you do it every year. This seems extremely unfair. Certainly for all three days. Each family group should take turns. You should only provide the venue. It's exhausting to do everything yourself, and I bet you end up having to do all the clearing up as well!

Why is your mum blaming you? Are you by any chance the scapegoat and your brother goldenballs? Otherwise I can't understand why she would be so unreasonable as to not back you up. You are bending over backwards to accommodate your nephew, with additional food just for him etc. My experience of 9 year olds is they don't really care too much about food as long as they get treats and some of their favourites. Also your brother and SiL are very unreasonable if they are not entirely lactose free in their house. What hypocrites!

I started doing it years ago and the tradition has stuck. Some years I even have SIL’s parents (who are lovely).

my brother is the golden child and my mum does tip toe around him.

they don’t contribute anything to the food or drink. My parents and sister do.

my dad has put a thumbs up on the WhatsApp😂. Nothing else. Assume thumbs up means he doesn’t really give a shit what everyone else does but he is coming to my house and will not be having a dairy free Christmas.

In answer to questions the intolerance isn’t an allergy. It appeared in the last year and dairy does seem to cause an upset stomach. I know he eats some dairy - and I particularly know my brother will not really accommodate this when he takes the boys out. His parents obviously know much more than I do about this. So I will of course respect their wishes and would never give him lactose.

if I am baby sitting I get in lots of dairy free options. I don’t get him dorritos anymore for example and wouldn’t have them in the house for Christmas beciase he loves them. I know my brother lets him eat them though 🫣

OP posts:
HaddawayAndShite · 17/09/2023 12:03

His parents are expecting op to make an effort that they themselves don’t!

Perfectly put. Is there a backstory with your brother OP? Always the golden child and getting his own way? Would explain his ridiculous behaviour and your mother backing him up.

Unless your bother and mother are like half this thread and have glibly ignored the fact you are going out of your way to cater for your nephew, and think he’s going to be left to starve all day?

PhantomUnicorn · 17/09/2023 12:03

Can someone explain what they're doing to their roast potatoes that they need to consider a 'dairy-free' roast potato?

Last i checked, potato and goose fat don't come from cows.

CosyNightsOnTheSofa · 17/09/2023 12:04

Motorina · 17/09/2023 11:58

I was all prepared to come on here and say your SIL in law was wildly unreasonable. Of course it's okay to serve the black forest gateux, as you also have other puds the kids can eat. Of course it's okay to have two bowls of mash.

But this:

But can you get dairy free prepared? Maybe you can. I even buy two large turkey crown - they are butter basted. So I was going to do him a chicken breast separately (he wouldn’t notice the difference). Veg would be the same and gravy. He would have a good dairy free meal.

Doing a giant buffet spread, with two turkey crowns that everyone helps themselves to, and then a sad seperate chicken breast? That's plain mean. Of course he'll notice the difference.

I can see why your SIL is unhappy.

Get turkey crowns that aren't basted in butter. Get dairy-free roasties. Makes sure all the main bits are cooked in a way that he can share them.

Then knock yourself out and enjoy your black forest gateux.

This is a 9 year old, I can bet he isn't arsed about anything on there be it chicken or turkey, I really think people are forgetting this is a child, truth be told he'd be happier with breaded chicken and beans!

Naunet · 17/09/2023 12:05

The only part you’re being unreasonable about, is to keep allowing your entitled, spoilt brother to turn up empty handed.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 17/09/2023 12:06

Finally, and forgive me if this is somehow wrong, but for one day a year can’t he take lactase as a treat?

I'm not sure that anybody would appreciate those additional smelly 'presents'!

EtiennePalmiere · 17/09/2023 12:06

I wonder if they're acting out because they're embarrassed about not having as nice a house, in any event they're spoiled attention seekers and if I were you I'd bow out this year and take yourself on a nice holiday

Anothershitusername · 17/09/2023 12:07

Don’t you want a relaxing Christmas op
id be booking a hotel spa with food included for my Christmas day
how dare they put so much pressure on you

BellaTheDarkOverlord · 17/09/2023 12:07

I’m lactose intolerant, have been milk free for 25+ years. I do not expect dairy options to be removed just because I’m going to someone’s house! When I was lactose intolerant as a kid I would have been mortified if my siblings were refused certain foods so I didn’t feel left out. It’s not their fault my stomach is a twat!

It’s telling that your brother and SIL eat milk options at their house but they expect you to remove them for everyone at Xmas. It does seem very attention seeking.

HaddawayAndShite · 17/09/2023 12:08

PhantomUnicorn · 17/09/2023 12:03

Can someone explain what they're doing to their roast potatoes that they need to consider a 'dairy-free' roast potato?

Last i checked, potato and goose fat don't come from cows.

OP explained she buys them pre-prepared from M&S. A quick Google shows their goose fat roast potatoes also include seasoned butter. That would be the lactose issue.

WickedSerious · 17/09/2023 12:08

Zebdya · 17/09/2023 10:30

Well now you are being mean! It’s awful to invite someone for Christmas then pick a turkey they can’t share. Especially when meat is naturally dairy free and you can easily get a turkey that hasn’t been basted in butter. I agree with your inlaws now, you just don’t want to make any effort to include him.

The OP is making plenty of effort to include her nephew.

arethereanyleftatall · 17/09/2023 12:09

Some posters have a really negative take on life. It's interesting how you can take a nice thing and twist it in to something negative.

It isn't being remotely 'mean' to go to the effort of making him something that doesn't hurt his tummy. It's actually lovely.

'That is so so kind of you to make me my own special dish Aunty Op, thank you.' Is what my dc would be saying.

I don't think it's a good thing at all to teach kids that the world should revolve around them. hello trans

ZickZack · 17/09/2023 12:10

I've been off dairy and so have my children due to cmpa (oldest can have dairy now, little one is about to do the milk ladder). Id never dream of making my family have dairy free. Id just appreciate the fact you have options for me / my children at the table. Your sil is being ridiculous

Olika · 17/09/2023 12:10

I have lactose intolerance since I was a kid and I would never expect all dishes to be lactose free. I just pick what I can eat and get on with the fact that I cannot have the rest. Considering that your brother is not even contributing I would take no notice. Or tell him that he can contribute by bringing more lactose free dishes.

fairyfluf · 17/09/2023 12:10

PhantomUnicorn · 17/09/2023 12:03

Can someone explain what they're doing to their roast potatoes that they need to consider a 'dairy-free' roast potato?

Last i checked, potato and goose fat don't come from cows.

Buying them in ready prepared

89redballoons · 17/09/2023 12:11

YANBU at all and they are being extremely cheeky for not only expecting you to host year after year, but also expecting you to change the menu for everyone rather than just the nephew.

I host Christmas day for my family, which is a smaller group than yours (6 adults 2 kids). My brother in law is coeliac and I do something similar to what you are suggesting - so I just make as much gluten free as possible, but for things that can't really be replicated I do something alternative for BIL.

So I don't add flour to the roasties or use stuffing recipes with gluten in them, and I make a pavlova for dessert rather than cake or pudding. But I make a separate gluten free gravy from g/f Bisto (I've tried making gluten free gravy myself but it is always a horrorshow), and I buy a pack of gluten free mince pies and buy in some gluten free crackers to go with cheese.

I have known BIL for 14 years, since he was a teenager, and this is how he's always been catered to at family meals, including by his parents.

ZiriForEver · 17/09/2023 12:12

YANBU for not having everything dairy free. If they haven't changed the food in their house, it is completely ridiculous they try to demand it from you.

I would say that your plan with dairy free starters for all children and getting one dairy free turkey sounds very reasonable. If you find df roasties as well, it would be ideal, I suppose df mash isn't really necessary in that case.

Ignore the toxic, faux-suggestions like "why don't you accept the challenge and change something". You know what you can reasonably offer, you are already doing a lot, and you are thinking about how to do the best within your boundaries.

annlee3817 · 17/09/2023 12:12

Dairy free daughter and other daughter was previously dairy intolerant and I would never expect someone to change the whole menu to cater for one of my children. If anything I'd probably offer to bring their food to make it easier. At nine I'd fully expect them to understand that there is stuff they can't eat as it would make them poorly

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