Russell Brand

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AIBU to think... 'here we go again?'

Anyone watching? I've always said 'innocent until proven guilty' but also 'there is no smoke without fire'.

Having been sexually assaulted myself, one of the stories seem so similar to mine.

What's your thoughts?

This is the most confusing post, I know. I just don't know how I feel.

Apologies.
I'm not from the UK. I had read this and assumed they screened for biases.

Parliament has provided a safeguard against jurors who may be corrupt or biased by as the Juries Act 1974 makes it a criminal offence for a disqualified person to serve as a juror.

That's insane though, so in the UK you could potentially have several jurors who had participated on forums like this for example insisting a person was guilty before the trial and who walks in on day 1 with their mind already made up.

Can someone who keeps repeating it please clarify exactly who they think ‘They’ are? Who ‘The Establishment’ are? Who the ‘Big Bosses’ are? And what ‘Truth’ they think that Russell Brand is revealing?

Everyone knew about it. Why are they going after home now? Why not earlier? They are all complicit. There’s a bit of Ghislaine Maxwell about all of this. It’s not a problem, while the perpetrators continue to play ball. As soon as they step out of line, the paymasters go after them with a vengeance.

This big investigative expose is a slap in the face for women. They don’t care one jot about the women. They care that Brand speaks against the political establishment. The same establishment that puts men in women’s prisons, lets men pretending to be women assault female patients in hospitals, put young girls at risk in schools. If you trust these people to have your best interests at heart, you are your own worst enemy.

Another person who hasn’t RTFT but thinks what they’re saying is groundbreaking 🙄

This is all coming out now because abused young women get older and start asking questions. The 16yo approached RB’s agency in 2020 about his grooming her and she was aggressively accused of money hunting.

That could have made more determined to be heard.

Seeing Huw Edwards disappear off TV screens would have reinforced that TV celebrities can fall of their pedestals.

There are any number of reason why a story about a rapist starts to come together.

Again, who are you talking about? All these people keep referring to the dark establishment but not actually saying anything. It’s all just waffle.

Who exactly do you think has masterminded a huge take down of Russell bloody Brand? Who? I would like names. And what exactly do you think is so dangerous about Brand? What subject has he discussed that has revealed state or world secrets?

You have zero clue how long it takes to bring these stories into the public sphere.

You don’t give a shit about women, you just want to protect the rapist.

Absolutely this!

Does this go in the other direction where you are from? I.e. it’s possible for the defence team to curate the jury in a way that serves their client’s interests, by, for example, selecting a disproportionate number of people from demographics that are likely to be sympathetic, that sort of thing?

Apparently when he was a child he emotionally abused his dog and also physically, when he kicked it down the stairs. His own memoir, his own words. He is not a nice person, and very much a narcissist.

This. Its ridiculous, he's a self important prick with youtube channel, not Che Guevara

WEF, WHO, NWO, the Great Reset, Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, the Clintons, the list is endless, take your pick! Brand is a messiah, come to save us all with his knowledge and insight, along with Neil Oliver and Lozza Fox.

@ehupo7 In America juries are screened by the defence and the prosecution for biases. Its the norm. To me it's a clear attempt to have a jury that has a leaning (such as religious/anti abortion/right/left wing views) who will favour (or not) the client.

I’ve watched a bit of his stuff in recent years and the ‘they’ that people are referring to is (as I understand it) the large corporations (so unelected) that have a lot of power over government policy because of their huge wealth

For example, pharmaceutical companies that can lobby governments, bribe but make it look like it’s not a bribe, to change policy and ensure their drugs are bought

Vanguard and Blackrock who are essentially funds that own about 15% of ALL money. (I cba to Google the exact number but it’s staggering) and so have a say in how almost everything is run. See the new ‘ESG’ ratings for info on that!

I think RB wasn’t actually wrong to be talking about these things, most of it is kept out of the public sphere when it should be firmly in the public sphere, everyone should know exactly how pharmaceutical companies work, and ffs influence of blackrock on all of our lives/ finances, but he’s still allegedly a rapist, and almost definitely foul.

I can’t get my head around exactly what people think is going on. Do they think the government are shitting themselves because Russell Brand has done a YouTube video on why Covid lockdowns didn’t work? As if such subjects aren’t discussed around the world daily? They don’t care!

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What people are trying to say, is in promoting views that are not welcome in mainstream media - e.g. whether the covid response was necessary/appropriate - that makes him a target for MSM. MSM certainly do target people who dare to question their narrative but there's no real evidence to substantiate in this case.

The journalists did clearly decide to target Brand - they approached these women, not t'other way - having not bothered when he worked with/for them. People are quite reasonably speculating as to why. Could be any number of reasons of course.

Oh thank you! I have been arguing about 'they' for years. I have come to the conclusion it is just a nebulous other in power. The thin edge of conspiracy theory

Any company that ‘picks and chooses’ how it deals with libel/defamation wouldn’t last 6 months.

MN are shit hot on deleting threads that are risky.

@Panaa do me a favour i have no idea how to respond to you in your box can you tell me how please.

As to your question the principal here is that jurors cannot be interfered with at all and must be separated from both the prosecution and the defence so neither party has any say. Jurors as like all human beings come with their own prejudices. The idea is that as randomly selected will be a reasonable selection of the general public and all their prejudices and beliefs and through debate and discussion behind closed doors such prejudices are set aside and reasonable conclusions are drawn on the basis of the evidence alone. The judge directs them on this. An individual juror can and sometimes does complain to a judge where bias is expressed in juror deliberations. Not a perfect situation but better i think than the American system.

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Any wonder they want him silenced

I'm not actually sure tbh. I'm in Ireland. I assumed that in most first world countries anyway that they would screen for biases. I didn't think it would be as thorough or tactical as it can be in the USA but I did think that there would be something.

No, they aren’t. People really
believe In some sort of ‘Establishment’ who have set this up to take him down because he’s a ‘Truthteller’ and he is pushing this narrative. It’s the same people who believe in the Illuminati and think the Freemasons are something more exciting than a men’s club. Yet they cannot actually provide any information. Because it’s bullshit.

All of that has been reported by the mainstream media though. You’re acting as if RB has revealed state secrets. He’s reading off a piece of paper, probably a crib sheet of notes taken from the Guardian.

What meaningful change has RB brought about?

Tumbleweed…

For fucks sakes, this sort of thing is discussed DAILY. Russell Brand isn’t uncovering this stuff as some sort of incredible journalist.

@Castlerock44 you’ve been very vocal about ‘they’. Please enlighten us; who exactly are ‘they’?

I'm sorry but of course they cared. At the time the entire Covid response was based on the myth everyone had to play their part and do as they were told. The Opposition also made a big thing about joining Government to maintain the public health message, so important was it. They went into 'disinformation' overdrive and it hasn't ever really stopped.

Doesn't mean Brand is being targeted for those reasons of course.