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Russell Brand

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Wassapp · 16/09/2023 22:07

AIBU to think... 'here we go again?'

Anyone watching? I've always said 'innocent until proven guilty' but also 'there is no smoke without fire'.

Having been sexually assaulted myself, one of the stories seem so similar to mine.

What's your thoughts?

This is the most confusing post, I know. I just don't know how I feel.

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Presil · 16/09/2023 22:35

God, it really seems to be yet another case of 'when someone tells you who they are, believe them '.

DingDongDenny · 16/09/2023 22:35

I've not watched the programme, but he's always given me the absolute creeps

GatoradeMeBitch · 16/09/2023 22:36

There was a rumour when I was in sixth form that a girl in my class went to see his show, and something happened backstage that upset her. But we were shithead teenagers so it got turned into a joke.

Much like the shitheads who read the headlines today, still went to his show, and gave him a standing ovation - for what, being their favourite r*pist?!

smooththecat · 16/09/2023 22:38

What the fuck has being promiscuous or liking sex got to do with raping people or allegedly doing so? Some people on the internet have really not got a grip of their boundaries.

LittleRedYarny · 16/09/2023 22:38

Well if those were the stories of women who felt the could come forward and that were able to be corroborated enough to be broadcast, then my heart breaks for the women who’s stories couldn’t be corroborated enough for broadcast or didn’t feel able to come forward. My worry is that those stories not told tonight might even be more horrific than the ones shown tonight.

Lou670 · 16/09/2023 22:39

Considering how off his face he was at the time of these alleged attacks I doubt even he remembers what he has done or not done!

StBrides · 16/09/2023 22:39

Lou670 · 16/09/2023 22:39

Considering how off his face he was at the time of these alleged attacks I doubt even he remembers what he has done or not done!

Don't understand the relevance of this

Blueeyedmale · 16/09/2023 22:40

It has some of the hallmarks of saville working with charities brand has come into contact with addicts and prisoners some who are very vulnerable deeply concerning after watching that this evening

Fordian · 16/09/2023 22:40

In all honesty; I don't understand this. I haven't watched the programme. Because surely all this should be a police matter? Not an exclusive 'expose'? Dispatches?

I genuinely don't understand why this has apparently become News of the World.

The allegations need investigation. Somewhat obviously. By the correct authorities. Not the media.

But the sensationalist 'Hold The Press'

Seriously?

StBrides · 16/09/2023 22:40

@GatoradeMeBitch the poor girl, I really hope she's OK right now

Wassapp · 16/09/2023 22:40

smooththecat · 16/09/2023 22:38

What the fuck has being promiscuous or liking sex got to do with raping people or allegedly doing so? Some people on the internet have really not got a grip of their boundaries.

What do you mean by that?

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Topee · 16/09/2023 22:40

Lou670 · 16/09/2023 22:39

Considering how off his face he was at the time of these alleged attacks I doubt even he remembers what he has done or not done!

Why do you think he was off his face?

Furryrug · 16/09/2023 22:41

Goldcircle · 16/09/2023 22:34

I think he might have been set up, too political and into conspiracy

what do you mean by set up? Do you think these women are lying? Do you think someone forced him to ram his penis into that girl's mouth ?

CherryMaDeara · 16/09/2023 22:41

Lou670 · 16/09/2023 22:39

Considering how off his face he was at the time of these alleged attacks I doubt even he remembers what he has done or not done!

If he can write an autobiography about his promiscuity then he can remember raping and grooming girls and women.

fionaapple · 16/09/2023 22:42

CherryMaDeara · 16/09/2023 22:26

Yep, and also saying he has turned his life around with yoga and spirituality 🙄

As if that’s redemption for rape and grooming.

I think it is pretty clear and strategic that he has almost rebranded as a conspiracy theorist, anti-vax, critic of MSM, free-thinking (whatever that means) 'personality' because he knew that people would eventually come forward about his offences and the people he appeals to will be thick enough to believe that it is just another one of the MSM's tricks to silence him exposing the 'truth'. As if the girl who privately went to a rape clinic the morning after being abused by RB was lying and doing so on the off chance that he might need falsely exposing nearly 20 years later. And as if the MSM would go to this much effort to silence a nobody who's opinions are only respected by a small minority in his little echo chamber of deluded weirdos.

verdantverdure · 16/09/2023 22:42

Savile raised a lot of money for charity...

GarlicGrace · 16/09/2023 22:42

I voted YABU but I'm not sure what your BU was! Sorry.

I think these stories have to keep coming out. Perpetrators and their enablers must be shamed and shunned - cancelled, if you like.

Haven't watched Dispatches but was reading the Times from 3pm when they released their reports. I've got no doubt the journalists verified every word they printed - they'd be up against a very expensive libel lawyer if their statements weren't robust.

I was really struck by the way two separate women spoke of him 'glazing over' during his attacks. I've seen that; I don't know what it is, but I've only ever seen it in sexually excited men and it always struck me as pitiless.

In May 2007, Brand called Jimmy Savile, who suggested the pair could meet if Brand brought along a sister. Brand doesn’t have a sister, so instead offered to bring a female employee — agreeing, on Savile’s request, that she should be naked.

“I’ve got a personal assistant,” he said. “And part of her job description is that anyone I demand she greet, meet, massages, she has to do it. She’s very attractive, Jimmy.” This was four years before Savile’s death and five years before details of the Jim’ll Fix It presenter’s crimes were exposed.

The Times, today.

Eloradannin2nd · 16/09/2023 22:43

I think he’s been playing the long game with his YouTube channel. Banging on about how the mainstream media cannot be trusted and portraying himself as the great truth teller.

Now these revelations are out, he just has to say that it’s the MSM getting their revenge for his views.

Ive seen posts on here today saying it’s because he’s so political and controversial that the media are turning against him.

I don’t think for a minute he believes half of the tripe he spouts on you tube. My DH occasionally watches him, I can’t stand to listen.

CherryMaDeara · 16/09/2023 22:43

Fordian · 16/09/2023 22:40

In all honesty; I don't understand this. I haven't watched the programme. Because surely all this should be a police matter? Not an exclusive 'expose'? Dispatches?

I genuinely don't understand why this has apparently become News of the World.

The allegations need investigation. Somewhat obviously. By the correct authorities. Not the media.

But the sensationalist 'Hold The Press'

Seriously?

Your post has been done to death. Why are you scare to read the article or watch the doc?

NameChangedforThisPost2023 · 16/09/2023 22:44

It reminds me of Jimmy Savile. We used to see him regularly and for many years before the stories came to light our children were warned to stay away from him, he was also warned to keep his distance from the locals. This was after an incident at a local event with a child.

The Dispatches documentary on Russell Brand wouldn’t have been shown if they didn’t have more evidence imo.

tinytemper66 · 16/09/2023 22:44

The comments on Twitter are disheartening. So many apologists. 🥵

fionaapple · 16/09/2023 22:45

Goldcircle · 16/09/2023 22:34

I think he might have been set up, too political and into conspiracy

Ah, set up in 2006 when one of the girls went to a rape clinic and accused him the morning after it happened🙄🙄maybe she can predict the lottery numbers next

ExNorfolk · 16/09/2023 22:45

Brand diversified into peddling MAGA antivax conspiracy BS, because he knew his raping and sexual abuse past would eventually be outed. So he needed a credulous audience who would believe his “mainstream media are out to get me because I speak Teh Truth” spiel.

He is a narcissistic grifting purveyor of propaganda and lies and he has also had a disgusting reputation as a predator for years.

I feel contempt towards anyone defending him.

CurzonDax · 16/09/2023 22:46

I've never found him funny - his style of comedy never suited me. I thought he was overrated, and so that may have influenced my bias, but he's always given me the ick.

I feel there is more to this story. I wonder if Katherine Ryan was referring to Brand. If not, and she was referring to someone else, I imagine more will come out about the wider 'comedy circle', and Brand will just be the start of the floodgates opening (at least I hope so to hold every sex pest and rapist to account, if there are more).

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