Russell Brand

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AIBU to think... 'here we go again?'

Anyone watching? I've always said 'innocent until proven guilty' but also 'there is no smoke without fire'.

Having been sexually assaulted myself, one of the stories seem so similar to mine.

What's your thoughts?

This is the most confusing post, I know. I just don't know how I feel.

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Vegas needs to be brought to account, via due legal process. If he did it once, he must have done it many other times. Clearly, he got away with such transgressions. Even at the time of the incident, why was it brushed under the carpet?! Who was/is protecting him.

Totally agree with her.

I'm curious because as a parent I simply struggle to believe a parent could be this supine, did the mother not at least alert police?

@Castlerock44 what truth is he telling that needs to be stopped?

Who is the establishment?

He is a scammer. A convincing one. He sees people who look up to him as nothing more than a tool : the more of you he hooks, the more exposure he gets and the more money he makes exploiting your fears.
He sees you the way he sees the women he went through like used tissues : not worth his respect and disposable.

If he was offered a gig on an MSM channel that guaranteed him more listeners or viewers than YT, he’d be back in the fold in a heartbeat.

The only thing he is loyal to is his own ego.

Erm, ay?

She said "When a girl says no, it means no".
He said "I'm sorry. Hope you're ok."

Don't be ridiculous. I haven't at all. I have condemned it. Comprehension skills a bit rusty?

RB in his book has admitted to extreme promiscuity. What did not admit to is his entire modus operandi being to bed as many women as possible using emotional manipulation and then coerce them into doing utterly grim things for his own perverted gratification and to have some juicy stories to boast about to his pathetic sycophants.

He has an extreme and profound lack of respect for women and I am delighted he is being brought down. Many others around him at the time need to take a hard look at themselves in the same light eg Wossy who really showed his colours in the Sachs incident.

I don’t know why anyone is apologising for him. That he trod across the boundaries into rape is sickening but not shocking; he spent years treating women like dirt. It’s a bit like John Leslie: most people with a media connection in the 90s and 00s know someone with first hand experience of his disgusting exploits.

Disgusting apologist.

One thing being a man-slag. Another thing beong a rapist and groomer. Two very very different things. If people can’t get that then I have no words. No words. That poor woman who was just 16 ffs. They’ll be more who won’t say anything. Same with Micheal Jackson, Saville, etc.

She is unhinged,

"I'm absolutely fucking outraged that you dared to bring Caroline's name into this."

@Wassapp you can be absolutely fucking outraged if you want, but without expanding upon why, it's not that useful.

Since you don't seem to see the similarity, it's the outcome of a sensationalised media response to legal accusations against somebody in the public eye.

Grifter supports grifter, no surprises there.

This is how Brexit happened. They walk among us. Blimey, talk about a dumbed down nation.

literally no one in power gives a toss about Russell Brand. He isn’t a threat to anyone. He doesn’t have any secrets they are worried him telling. He really doesn’t. The subjects he discusses are discussed by thousands of other people.

And the people defending him are Andrew Tate and Dan Wootton. Other sexual abusers.

If she was "eviscerated from the face of the planet" how come we still hear plenty from Katie bloody Hopkins?

Funny how they never did the same on Scofield and Saville. But then they weren't speaking out on stuff that the public shouldn't know about.

It's all a left wing plot in revenge for Huw Edwards? Jeez,

He already admitted via the text they had sex that night so the DNA test is neither here nor there. Its a question of if it was consensual which it clearly wasn't. She immediately said it wasn't to him and others, went to a rape crisis centre within 24 hours and had to undergo months of therapy immediately thereafter which is all documented. And he apologies for his behaviour in the text thread.

Danny Masterson's conviction should make it clear that famous men accused of rape can and will be convicted.

That wasn't the text though was it??

I think he did all he is accused of but the text did not say he was apologising for rape.

Sigh I agree with those saying a due process of law is the proper way to deal with this, rather than one sided trial by media. Quaint and unfashionable as that opinion is. Unfortunately, many will have already pronounced him guilty.

Some of the material is indeed very damning. The problem with that is that we have only been told one side of the story, and plenty of things can appear damning when selected on that basis, that one would view differently in the light of full and balanced information. That's why we have a judicial system with prosecution and defence.

They have done the same thing to Saville, it’s just that he was dead. And there was a lot about Schofield and he lost all his jobs.

Brand isn’t special. He isn’t revealing any ‘truths’, he discussing the same stuff that thousands of other people talk about.
Why would you believe him vs those women? Who are ‘they’? The government don’t give a toss about Brand. He is influential yes, but not in a way that makes the government concerned at all.

Oh, I must have dreamt the Panorama episode of 22 October 2012 and everything that followed.

Succinct and sensible (far too sensible for, it would seem, the majority!).

plenty of things can appear damning when selected on that basis, that one would view differently in the light of full and balanced information. That's why we have a judicial system with prosecution and defence

most rape cases don’t make it to court. What do you suggest is the answer for those victims?