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AIBU? Too early to move in together and share finances temporarily?

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nzwanderer · 16/09/2023 08:31

Long before we became a couple, I (23) had plans to move to New Zealand once I became qualified in my sector. Due to the delay in having my qualification recognised in NZ, I won’t be moving until March 2024. By March, my boyfriend (29) and I will be together for ONE year. My brother, sister-in-law, and nieces live in New Zealand. They have a four bedroom house and a bedroom waiting for me to make my own until I secure residency and can start the process of buying my own house (should I like NZ).

I have started making connections on Linkedin and was offered a job for when I arrive. We have interviewed a couple of times on Zoom, I have completed assessments, and I have signed a contract. The starting salary is double my salary here in Belfast, and I will receive an initial relocation and welcome bonus when I commence employment.

In the last couple of months, my boyfriend has decided he also wants to move to NZ. He recently finished his MSc and has an undergraduate degree in IT with music production. He comes from a very wealthy family who provided him with an allowance throughout his undergrad degree, but this allowed him to work hard and achieve a high grade. I encouraged him to also use Linkedin to connect to people within his sector and recruiters.

In the nicest way, one recruiter told him that he was very unlikely to get a skilled job in NZ and would recommended that he stay in Belfast, do an internship, and come back when he has more experience and his degree officially recognised. Another recruiter responded to my boyfriend and told him that while his degrees on paper are good and in demand careers, his overall gaps between employment and lack of experience within the IT sector heavily go against him.

My boyfriend is adament he will be in NZ regardless of their feedback, and will sort employment and qualification recognition while there (knowing mine took months). Now he’s not the type of man who would ever work in construction or mining and will say this himself, but he hates his current retail job so much that he swore he would never work retail again… I’m at a complete loss as to what job he expects to find.

I asked what his plans were as he would have no income initially, minimum savings, and he said that we could live off my salary until he was set up (vice-versa should roles be reversed). Here’s the thing, IF we were together longterm then I would have absolutely no issue with this, but we will only be together a year in March! I reminded him that the invite to stay with my family only extended to me, as they haven’t met my boyfriend (not even on FaceTime) and do have two young children. He suggested that we could instead get an AirBnB until we found a rental, but I expressed before (and again) that I felt it would be too soon to move in together.

I love my boyfriend but I also don’t want to be held back any further towards my big move. AIBU? I really think a year is too song to move in together and share finances. I really don’t want to breakup with my boyfriend but I don’t want to be his keeper even more.

OP posts:
Alwaysdecorating · 16/09/2023 10:13

nzwanderer · 16/09/2023 10:03

To clarify, his first undergrad degree was in Music Productin (achieved high grade) but he couldn’t find a job within this sector. He returned to university a couple of years later and did a year long course in Software Development and he secured employment in that sector for under a year, but was let go during the pandemic. He had a career and study break for just over a year until last August, where he started his retail job and MSc. The MSc is in Software Design and AI.

He’s currently in the process of building an online portfolio and finishing a website, therefore he hasn’t started applying for jobs here in Belfast until this is complete. He’s very picky and wants a remote role, but also wants to be on more money than typically offered at entry level. I think he sent his CV onto a few recruiters here but didn’t hear anything back.

Edited

He lost his job I. The pandemic and could find anything related to his role at all?

So studied again. But still hasn’t got a job that’s actually related. Just in the process of building a portfolio? How long has he been at that?

He is just floating around with loads of plans and loads of ‘when I finish this qualification….’ But it’s not actually amounted to anything.

which is what will happen in New Zealand. Lots of plans and ‘I just need to get this qualification/build this…..then I will get a job. Meanwhile, you keep financing me’

Packedlunchoftinkywinky · 16/09/2023 10:16

It’s a huge red flag. He’s basically trying to line you up to replace his parents’ purse. Go alone, stay with your family as arranged and let him make his own way there and sort himself out.

nzwanderer · 16/09/2023 10:17

Honestly I don’t know the ins and outs but he was receiving Covid payment and then went onto benefits when that ran out. I know he moved home to NI from ROI to his parents, and was going through a breakup. He then moved into his now home (owned by family who don’t occupy it) at the beginning of 2022.

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SleepingStandingUp · 16/09/2023 10:18

Your instincts are strong and absolutely RIGHT. Do not let him wear you down.

Move on schedule.

He can sort his visas and get money from his wealthy family or get a better job and save or keep looking at ways for his music to support him.

Or realistically you break up and move on. Starting a relationship with this on the horizon was always going to be messy.

But do not become this man's carer.

CharSiu · 16/09/2023 10:21

Don’t be bloody ridiculous.

When you are older and you look around your own and your friends lives you will realise that people who made mistakes in love and relationships are always worse off financially. Sometimes they are genuine mistakes and the guy seemed ok but this one is obviously a liability.

nzwanderer · 16/09/2023 10:21

He just finished his MSc and results are pending. He has been building his portfolio for a couple of months now but is dedicating all his energy and days off into it since finishing last month. He did have another portfolio but felt it was outdated so he is essentially building it from scratch and is running into a lot of technical issues i.e. bugs in codes and glitches.

I was furloughed during the pandemic as I was in university, working a bar job, but when I became bored of being at home I got a retail job. When I returned to campus, I got a job in a good paying factory, and as soon as I finished my degree I got a job in the sector I’m in now (no relation to my degree) and achieved my qualification within a year. Personally, I don’t understand the gaps in his employment because I’ve always worked (but I had to as no hand outs from parents) so it’s strange to me, and I am trying to understand it.

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GabriellaMontez · 16/09/2023 10:22

A cock migrant !!!

OP listen to yourself. You're right.

Ragwort · 16/09/2023 10:23

Absolutely not ! Just make it clear that are leaving for NZ on your own. In fact make sure he doesn't have too much information or addresses or you may not be able to shake him off.

This story seems very familiar though ... a young woman in Ireland emigrating and boyfriend wanting to tag along ... have you posted before and just changed some details?

SleepingStandingUp · 16/09/2023 10:25

nzwanderer · 16/09/2023 10:21

He just finished his MSc and results are pending. He has been building his portfolio for a couple of months now but is dedicating all his energy and days off into it since finishing last month. He did have another portfolio but felt it was outdated so he is essentially building it from scratch and is running into a lot of technical issues i.e. bugs in codes and glitches.

I was furloughed during the pandemic as I was in university, working a bar job, but when I became bored of being at home I got a retail job. When I returned to campus, I got a job in a good paying factory, and as soon as I finished my degree I got a job in the sector I’m in now (no relation to my degree) and achieved my qualification within a year. Personally, I don’t understand the gaps in his employment because I’ve always worked (but I had to as no hand outs from parents) so it’s strange to me, and I am trying to understand it.

Edited

Don't bother.

Sit down and be honest.

Living off my wage when the relationship is so new and everything so new isn't an option. If you can sort it out and come out on your own finances, then we can talk about that.

But as it stands I'm going out alone. We can enjoy these last month's together or I'd understand if you want to walk away now.

Breaking up now enables you to get over the hurt now whilst you're packing your life up and starting afresh. What an amazing opportunity for you, you should be really proud of yourself for earning this chance. Don't let him ride on your coatails

LoveStHelier · 16/09/2023 10:26

No, just move as you have planned all along. it sounds like you are incompatible in your backgrounds and approach to working life - and that is saying it mildly.

listen to your gut feeling.

Clymene · 16/09/2023 10:28

So you're a hard working young woman with a clear idea of what you want to do and where you want to go in life and your boyfriend is a drifting lazy trustafarian.

The very best thing you can do is move to the other side of the planet (although New Zealand is a horrifically misogynist country)

Cupofteafortwo · 16/09/2023 10:28

OP you are being sensible

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/09/2023 10:29

zazazoop · 16/09/2023 09:05

No no no no this sounds like it turn your dream into an nightmare.

This.

Please don’t encumber yourself with a dead weight when you’re so young and have got this brilliant opportunity.

All he’s going to do is weigh you down, just when you need to feel free.

His plan is basically to live off you with no obviously job in sight - and either live for free with your family (which you’ve already said is not happening), or put you in a position where you have to pay rent/ for an air bnb which you otherwise wouldn’t have to. Just financial drains on you all over the place.

Say to him that you are going and will be living with your family and that if he’s able to establish himself independently you’ll see him there. If not, plenty more fish.

VelvetUndergrounds · 16/09/2023 10:30

You already know that it's a no. X

nzwanderer · 16/09/2023 10:30

I’m sure there’s many of us! A lot of my friends have broken up with longterm partners to travel recently, and my friend who was originally suppose to travel with me (we were going to road trip around Australia for their summer to meet up with friends who moved) has since fallen in love with an amazing man (their love is nothing short of a movie) and decided to stay in Belfast. I think I’m at the age now where it’s common and half of NI/ROI people in their early 20s seem to be making a beeline for Oz, NZ, and Canada.

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mistymistymorning · 16/09/2023 10:35

OP - I admire you for standing your ground on your plans and it is absolutely the right thing to do!! Good for you!

You've worked hard - both in employment and for your qualifications. Move to NZ, enjoy being with your family and setting yourself up in your new life with their support.

The boyfriend can stay at home and learn to be self sufficient and stand on his own two feet.

Please don't let him trample on your dreams. I made that mistake when I was younger and regret it forever.

Cockmigrant · 16/09/2023 10:39

How is he going to get a visa to go to New Zealand anyway?

Which of the following visas is he applying for?
https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/visa-lists/all-work-visas

Is he hoping you will sponsor him on a partnership visa?
https://www.malcolmpacific.com/partnership-visas-guide-nz

One of the requirements being:
You share finances, such as a bank account, bills and assets

Visas that allow you to work

We have a range of visas that allow you to work in New Zealand. Use our filters below to see if you can apply for visas that allow you to work in New Zealand.

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/visa-lists/all-work-visas

cocksstrideintheevening · 16/09/2023 10:39

You are 23! Please finish it now and crack on with your plans.

PussInBin20 · 16/09/2023 10:40

I don’t understand what your plans are/were in regards to your relationship. I mean if you were planning to move in with your family without him, what were you expecting him to do? Be left behind? split up? Surely you must have discussed something with him about your future together (or not).

The way you describe it is “I’m doing my plan” and that’s that - it sounds like you intended to split with him without actually telling him and now he’s trying to tag along.

TBH if he doesn’t go with you to your family (not saying he should) you are just basically saying there is no future together 🤷‍♀️

MagpiePi · 16/09/2023 10:46

I would bet that if you weren't moving to NZ he would have tried to move in with you and get you to support him while he fannied around looking for this non-existent perfect job.

I'd say this is the perfect opportunity to break up with him.

CherryMaDeara · 16/09/2023 10:47

PussInBin20 · 16/09/2023 10:40

I don’t understand what your plans are/were in regards to your relationship. I mean if you were planning to move in with your family without him, what were you expecting him to do? Be left behind? split up? Surely you must have discussed something with him about your future together (or not).

The way you describe it is “I’m doing my plan” and that’s that - it sounds like you intended to split with him without actually telling him and now he’s trying to tag along.

TBH if he doesn’t go with you to your family (not saying he should) you are just basically saying there is no future together 🤷‍♀️

RTFT, she said they always intended to break up when she moves to NZ as neither wants a long distance relationship.

He is not OP’s responsibility.

Naunet · 16/09/2023 10:51

Don’t do it! So many bright, go getting young women hitch themselves to dickhead men and end up sacrificing their dreams for them. Put yourself first, follow your dreams.

CantThinkOfANameAtAll · 16/09/2023 10:51

So he wants to climb into your suitcase and make you pay for everything, source everything, do all the paperwork to facilitate emigration and living day to day at your expense, financially, physically, mentallyand emotionally. I can see why he likes this idea but honestly, what would you be getting out of this arrangement? A lazy, selfish immature male. Please tell me what is attractive about that?

PussInBin20 · 16/09/2023 10:55

CherryMaDeara · 16/09/2023 10:47

RTFT, she said they always intended to break up when she moves to NZ as neither wants a long distance relationship.

He is not OP’s responsibility.

Well if that’s the case what’s the point of her thread! But she did say in her OP that she didn’t want to break up with him so you RTFT!

PurpleSilver · 16/09/2023 10:57

Aquamarine1029 · 16/09/2023 09:26

He has entitled cocklodger written all over him. You're so young, don't ruin this amazing experience by burdening yourself with this man. Run for the hills and never look back.

This.

Start your dream life with an open heart, total freedom and financial independence.

It would be dreadful for this incredible opportunity to be sullied by this man-child.

You sound so intelligent, driven, focused and joyous OP. Grant yourself the freedom to find someone like you in NZ. This man is not it.

Best of luck.