to think that 4x4 drivers are the most selfish w@*&(*&s ever???

[redrobin]

It makes my blood boil! They drive their big childcrushers whilst on the phone, they tailgate other smaller cars, they use enormous amounts of petrol, they block up roads, they look threatening...how can people choose to drive something like that? Do they have ha a selfish gene, do they think they are just better than other people so rules don't apply to them, or are they just thick?

(NOTE this is only about town drivers, i appreciate that they are useful in the countryside).

Sometimes, I think Jeremy Clarkson is winning.

Any hot air emerging from my ass is due to my reckless decision to have beans for lunch AND cabbage for dinner. Nothing to do with my car! Or my driving!

Believe me JJJ so would I - but that is not how the company car system works. Plus the company will only allow us to get new cars with specific criteria for safety purposes.

KM - My dog weighs in at nearly 40Kgs.... I'm not planning on carrying him anywhere in the near future!!!

Ah, but 10 yo toyota- still going strong!! That's a pretty good advert!! And I'm not being paid to advertise zafiras!

BMW- aspirational car to make people think you have money: exactly my point! Now you see why I find them a bit crass!

I've got loads of money, myself- just choose to spend it wisely!

Actually, that's a lie! But if I did..

Oh, it's late and I'm tired and I've just come upon this thread.

I'm a poor but noble pedestrian, which means that whenever it rains, I get completely drenched by people driving cars. Without exception, I get drenched by 4x4 drivers. People who drive modest cars think, 'Hey! Here's a woman and small child ... and it's raining and the gutters are running rivulets, so I'll slow down ... even stop .. rather than ruin their day by soaking them from head to foot. People who drive 4x4's don't think the same way at all.

The hazard is now so entirely predictable to me, that I stick two fingers up and shout 'CUNT' even before they do it.

Not that they notice, of course

Anyway, my bloody heating has switched off, and DH will kill me if I fire it up again!! So before I go blue and my feet turn into ice, I will take myself to bed! Goodnight ladies!

Hey redrobin - screw you and your generalisations!!

In response to the OP - Yes YABU.

Nowehere else on MN would you get away with such a sweeping statement, so I don't see why here should be different.

Yes, some 4x4 drivers are prats, but so was the woman driving her Focus in front of me yesterday, while smoking, and her kids weren't strapped in. I don't think I'm going to be starting a thread about Focus drivers or smokers though.

Diod someone =mention Volvo estates?

I have a V40, and can fit 3 car seats in the back of mine (As in 2 big seats and a baby one)

it's great and doesn't eat petrol.

Plus I can keep loads of shit in the boot

Snigger at a car for a dog
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"Oh you have a BMW? Oh, my dog has a BMW you know, you Cheapskate"

oh pmsl at this thread,

hightlights are the 4x4 owners trying to justify themselves on the grounds that

-they have dogs

-fgs baby equipment (well you'll be the only one on here in THAT predicament . I used to go down to my parents a lot with 2 kids, a baby and a 2 yo. Somehow, I managed with a small skoda. Actually, I normally took the train...

-the "oh my car is VERY safe, it only poses a serious danger to pedestrians" post

-Their kids legs might get a bit cramped

-their arses might get cold

its like having a big, scary looking "soft as butter" "puppy", isn't it?

YOU look like a total fuckwit.

EVERYONE is looking at you and saying "whoah, there goes an under-endowed fuckwit."

The only respect you MIGHT possibly get is from 14 yos reeking of lynx and clearasil. But even they are probably saying "jesus, stop driving that prattish tank, I'm going to have to live on this planet when you're 6 foot under."

VERY very few people NEED to drive such dangerous gas guzzling prattmobiles.

THEY ARE EMBARASSED!

duh, how did it take me s long to work that one out?

"have you noticed the marked similarity between your average 4x4 and those big black bins the cooncil introduced for tenements? Why was it the New Town residents got so worked up about it? Hmmm." barcodezebra

All these 4x4 drivers getting huffy about being judged by people who don't know them - if you choose to make a statement by driving a childcrusher, what do you expect? If I see an L-plate I expect inept or inconsiderate driving - same goes for a 4x4.

You lot astound me with your prejudicial views. I don?t drive any different in my freelander than I did in my corsa.

I got the car from a garage that was closing down and only had 3 cars left and was selling them at trade price. My choices were:

A Saab phantom which was a 6.7 litre engine and I should imagine struggled to do 10 miles to the gallon

Or

A 2.0 Cleo that only had 3 doors so no good for me

Or my 1.8 (smallest engine of all) freelander.

I can see out the back window, I could not afford to buy a smaller car for what I paid for this. I do care about the environment but this car does more miles to the gallon that many small cars. I only use sunglasses when it is sunny and I don?t look down on anyone.

I don?t feel I look like a fuckwit and I don?t drive like a fuckwit. I have been driving for 16 years and have never had an accident, just because I am behind the wheel of a 4x4 does not mean all my years of driving experience go out the window and I start driving like a twat... There are many bad drivers out there but to judge everyone by what car they drive is no better than me saying anyone who lives XXXXXXX is a pikey...

I never had a problem with 4X4's especially as we live in a rural area. However, I know from personal experience that you cannot see out of the back as easily as in many other cars - I won't go into details but my BF lost her DD. It is for this reason alone that I have sworn I will never buy one as children don't stand a chance being hit by one.

Lardylumps - so you had no choice, there was effectively a gun to your head. Even though you did not want a 4x4 you wound up with one. And with your good driving you will singlehandedly change the image they have because of those who did choose them?

I consider myself a good driver and have never had any kind of accident. That does not mean I never will & should a child suddenly run out in front of me, I would not be able to forgive myself if they died just because I had wanted to look intimidating.

Desi, thats so true. Of the cars that whoosh past drenching you from head to foot, the majority are BMW and 4x4 owners. Maybe being so high up they can't see us lowly pedestrains? One tit, in my personal pet hate car - the BMX 4x4 - did it when we were pushing dd in her wheelchair in the pissing rain. Why would anyone think it big and clever to drench a disabled 4 yo?
And talking of the BMW 4x4 (and perhaps its the same one or are they all black?) I've just looked outside. There's one parked 1 inch from my bumbper. On inch from a Kangoo with 'please leave space for my raamp and wheelchair' sign. How the fuck does he think I will lower the ramp? And does he think I wont lower it on his stupid car and say 'oops, silly girly me'. Does he not realise that a, its not my car and b, I don't pay insurance cos its a motability car so I don't give a toss and c, I hate cars anyway.

And those who need a hummer sized car for a tiny baby. FFS get a grip. I had a 1.3 Ford Escort with 3 kids under 3 and we got everything in there to go visit grandma and sometimes we went on the train cos I hate driving. Non-disabled children do not need 4 tons of equipment. Now I have 2 hulking teens and a child in a wheelchair and they fit in the back of a tiddly Kangoo with dd's disability paraphernalia and we still take the bloody train whn we can cos the brain damaged one hates travelling in cars more than 3 miles.
If you are a city person with non-disabled children, you do not need a big car and you are fucking things up for us pedestrians and cyclists and polluting my city.
Right, off to lower ramp up and down a few times on that BMW monster

mind you, the Kangoo, while tiddly with a 1.2 engine only gets an embaressing 44 mpg. Must be shit seeing as all those with 2 ton vehicles are claiming 40+ iles per gallon

blimey, this is a bit heated.

my DH is a fuckwit then (i don't know how to drive) - he did buy a 4x4 which we use when we go out of town (not for the school run). The only reason he gave me for wanting it was he was having a mid-life crisis.

I said ok, but he forfeits the having an affair with somebody ten years my junior

deep breaths everybody.

'need a 4x4' for going outside the city?' Its not the Serengeti you know. We do have decent roads....

Hi Page...

You are in good company! Seems I'm from a whole family of fuckwits.

We have 2 BMWs (Including, ohh, the shame... a black X5!) and a Porsche.

We did have a mini, but I just sold it....

And, unbelieveably, I've never crushed a child / drowned a pedestrian / single handedly taken over the whole with my evil domineering empire....