To think that having a bbq on a Saturday afternoon is perfectly acceptable?

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I live on a new build estate and a group of neighbours have for,ed a nice friendship group. On Saturday afternoon one of the group hosted a small bbq , planned from 3-9. There were 10 of us to begin with but people drifted off . We were sat around a table in the garden, the Alexa speaker on the doorstep playing the radio but not loudly as we were all chatting.

At 7pm a bloke appeared at the back gate to say he was trying to get his 1 year old to bed and would we turn the music off. We did but continued to sit in the garden .

At 8 pm a post appeared on the community Facebook page saying that people having bbqs were selfish and had no regard for parents trying to put their little,ones to bed in weather we were not equipped for and with no option to close their windows .

I responded simply saying peaceful enjoyment of your own garden is not prohibited, that yes they did have an option to close the windows and this was the first bbq my friends have had in the 2 years they've lived there , that we weren't exactly having a rave , that we all have or had children, that having kids doesnt give you autonomy to tell others what to do and that if they didn't want to hear other people living on an estate wasnt a good idea.
I also said we were planning on moving inside the house at 9pm
Then the insult's started. I did respond (I know I shouldn't have) saying perhaps if anyone had an issue they could come and knock on the door and discuss it like adults instead of being keyboard warriors.someone
Posted a copy of the councils nuisance noise policy ( which ironically showed night hours to be between 11pm and 7am ! ) this was 8 pm

More insults . Gifs with popcorn . Someone said " i suggest you blah blah blah blah blah .
I lost it . I said I suggest you fuck off before I turn the music back on

Today the whinging post had been removed

What the fuck is wrong with people ? It was a sedate afternoon bbq consisting of 10 people aged 35 ~ 50, not an all night rave !
Aibu ?

Be - bet

No, it's a timing thing.

People aren't allowed to make a constant racket in their garden. This would be a noise nusiance. They are allowed to have friends round in their garden. This is called everyday living.

But why does person A’s desire to talk loudly with her friends in the garden for six hours trump person B’s desire not to have to fucking listen to it?
I still don’t understand.

Here's what one ocuncil says about it:

What is a nuisance?
A nuisance within the meaning of the law is a noise, smoke, dust, smell or artificial light, that really interferes with your right to enjoy your home

The person or organisation responsible for the nuisance must be acting unreasonably or unlawfully. For something to be a nuisance within the meaning of the law, it must be considered to be unreasonable to the “average person” and something that is more than an annoyance.

What we will investigate

We can usually take action for persistent disturbance from:

• loud music
• smoke from bonfires
• noisy building works and DIY noise at unreasonable times
• constant dog barking and other noisy domestic animals
• vehicle and building alarms
• dust from building sites or commercial premises
• smells from commercial premises
• glare from light sources

We do not deal with:

• Noise from ordinary domestic activities or where there is poor sound insulation.
• Noise from construction or demolition works within the conventional days and times: Monday to Friday - 8am to 6pm. Saturdays 8am to 1pm.
• Noise from groups or people talking in gardens and outside areas.
• Rail works.

Because talking with your friends in your garden during the daytime is considered reasonable to the average person.

Another council says:

We will not investigate:

• Noise from domestic appliances such as washing machines, hoovers unless they are used at unreasonable hours, e.g. after 10pm and before 6am
• Noise from children playing outside
• Noise from family lifestyles, including talking in gardens, noise from children, friction between day and night workers
• Occasional events such as barbeques and fireworks
• One-off parties such as religious celebrations, New Years Eve and weddings
• DIY work unless it is persistent and at unreasonable hours

Fuck them

and leave that facebook group

Having an occasional party still leaves B with peace & quiet most of the time.

I’m not sure about that. About half the people on here seem to think it’s reasonable and the other half don’t.

Here's a hint.

Stop looking at curtain twitchers on Facebook. Ignore.

Don't be abusive and swear at people.

If someone bothers you in person, say if they have a problem to contact the police. If they start getting aggressive and threatening you call the police on them.

Dead easy.

In the end you made this into way more of a drama than you needed too.

You are a snob

As much as I feel he was over the top, maybe struggling at home, I find the idea of engaging in a face book slanging match and publicly telling a neighbour to fuck off on there beyond cringe. My toes curled reading it.

the way you also come across on here is the same somewhat. I don’t know, were you trying to show off to your new young friends? It’s maybe relevant you’re the oldest.

I don’t understand the comments about Marbella. I was there 25+ years ago and it was nice? Is it no now?

There's other people there. Some on MN can't cope with that

So just crowded?

Wow, how ageist.

Many of us have friends at all stages of life.

People have no grounds for complaints until after 11pm so tell the fun sponges to jog on, you have every right to socialise on your own garden with music on during summer months or any time of the year for that matter, some people are just so bloody entitled

of course they have.

Statutory nuisance is not limited between 11pm and 7am, it's just less strict.

No one has a right to be an antisocial twat during the hours of the day

Nothing wrong with the timeline that you were enjoying yourselves but you lost it when you started answering back and swearing on facebook. You should have just ignored it and talked to him calmly the next day as everyone has to live in the same area and communication is the key. Everyone stressed with the heat and humidity and surely talking in a calm manner is not too much to ask so not in the wrong for having your bbq as it was quite early but for the swearing and getting carried away yes in the wrong. Also always nice to hear kids playing but this new thing that kids seem to do just screaming at the top of their voices and the parents should call them out on it as it is the most annoying thing and no need for it. Anyway you can calmly talk to your neighbour and be the bigger person and just say how it was early having the bbq and people should be able to talk in their garden at 8pm and apologize for the swearing and behaviour on facebook.

Also to the person who said you can have music on until 11pm that is not right if it is loud and affecting your neighbours. Others should be able to sit in their own garden without annoyance from others and if others had a bit of consideration for neighbours the world would be a nicer place but some always feel entitled to do what the hell they like as it is their garden and their kids are on holidays and can make as much noise as they like. Bit of respect for others goes a long way.

At 7pm. Not a chance!

You’re not being unreasonable, I got my daughter a white noise machine from an early age for this reason - sounds like they have made a rod for their own back. I’m assuming they don’t want tv or anything after her bedtime
enjoy the garden and the sun, the music up, laugh, be happy - the neighbours can’t do anything accept write stuff on fb 😂

I'd be having one every week for a bit

Do you live in my village???🤣🤣🤣

Not unreasonable at all. I have to endure neighbours kids playing and squealing and arguing all afternoon when I want a quiet sit with my book. So if I want a BBQ later on I will have one