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Minor celebs wife being rude in pub

386 replies

cattreatsanddragrace · 04/09/2023 09:28

Went to a country pub yesterday with my partner. Nice little place in the Surrey countryside, part of a chain, not fine dining. Very busy as the weather was really good, some stressed looking teenage girls trying to serve everyone. Kids play area in the garden and a bar in the garden area for drinks. We were sat on the patio attached to the restaurant.

A minor TV celeb, his wife, and another couple were sat across from us. The wife of the minor celeb complained a few times (that I heard).

First time: That one of the starters came out fractionally behind one of the others. (It was busy, there were four of them, the waitress can only carry two plates?!)

Second time: that the prawns in their prawn cocktail were inedible. (To be fair, I'd let this complaint slide as I didn't eat the prawn cocktail. It could have been bad). The waitress apologised and had a new dish made for them.

Third time: and this is the one that got me. The mains came, and the waitress went to put the plates down. The wife of the celeb laughed and stopped the waitress, and told her that "you don't serve plates from that side" aka the waitress was stood on the wrong side of her putting her plate down. She made the waitress go round the other side and put her plate down. This wasn't a silver service Michelin starred restaurant where you might expect such things. Just a standard pub.

So my (lighthearted) AIBU - do I sell this story to the Daily Mail and name and shame?

OP posts:
BirdiePlantaganet · 04/09/2023 14:17

I sat next to Bradley Walsh once at a charity lunch. He was lovely.

The serving from a particular side thing does sound a bit uppity. I’d be embarrassed if I’d been with them.

FullFatPhil · 04/09/2023 14:17

No @Dramatico, I'm not offended by anything. I disagree strongly though with your mob-like bully behaviour.

I disagree with the nasty comments and people like you so desperate to criticise a stranger that they claim they wouldn't send bad food back via their server.

Wonkypumpkin · 04/09/2023 14:20

Name and shame.

AlwaysGinPlease · 04/09/2023 14:20

LondonLass91 · 04/09/2023 14:12

This thread has gotton nasty...I know Donna and have worked with her previously for years, and can assure you she ìs absolutely not the sort of person who would tell a waitress to serve from the other side. She is a down to earth cockney girl, like me, really lovely and polite

Were you there?! No. Thought not.

MadeleineMummy · 04/09/2023 14:22

When I was quite young teenager before leaving for University, I worked as a waitress in a quiet swanky restaurant. A quite rich looking woman sent back her fillet steak and asked for it to be cooked more as it was underdone.

the chef took the steak in his hands, pulled down his trousers and wiped his arse with the steak, then wiped the floor with it and all the chefs took turns spitting on it before putting it back underneath the grill until it was nearly burnt to buggery. Then he served it and I took it out to the woman. She said it was lovely. I will never forget this.

I never send food back nearly 40 years later and just don’t eat it if it is not good.

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 04/09/2023 14:23

If you sell a story about a minor sleb's wife will the pub get a slating ? not because of how the food was served, but they might lose potential customers?

And,.... do we really want to read this trash? there's enough shite written about 2nd tier nobodies - stuff that could be true / made up / who knows.

if you want to name and shame, you could stick it on here anonymously but don't feed the daily fail with any more garbage. And don't identify the pub.

You could have pulled the customer up on it at the time I suppose.

I once reassured an upset server that they handled a very difficult unpleasant customer extremely well and to be proud of how they reacted to the customer's bullying (I was just an observer - didn't know either of them). Server was very grateful for the support and it's good for hospitality workers to know that not everyone condones that kind of shit behaviour.

Lammveg · 04/09/2023 14:24

This is the sort of thing I'll tell my DH everytime I see Bradley Walsh on TV

NewName122 · 04/09/2023 14:26

Do it.

Karen1970orthereabouts · 04/09/2023 14:27

At risk of sounding a bit high-horse-y about it, but the Daily Mail and other similar newspapers are morally bankrupt, pretending to be on the side of women. I wouldn't feed the monster

Dramatico · 04/09/2023 14:28

FullFatPhil · 04/09/2023 14:17

No @Dramatico, I'm not offended by anything. I disagree strongly though with your mob-like bully behaviour.

I disagree with the nasty comments and people like you so desperate to criticise a stranger that they claim they wouldn't send bad food back via their server.

Once again...you're ascribing to me something I haven't done. Posting an opinion about a celeb is not the same as being a 'mob' (how can one person be a mob anyway?) and is not the same as behaving like a bully.

In fact, the only bully I've seen on MN today is you, weith your needless ad hominems, false accusations and aggressive and repeated use of my username.

Projection is a powerful psychological force.

NewName122 · 04/09/2023 14:28

Donna is obviously not a very nice woman if she will shame a teenager.

HufflyShuffly · 04/09/2023 14:36

Hayley0203 · 04/09/2023 13:57

Thank you for explaining that all again, but I did understand you the first time.

I fully grasp and appreciate your point that the story might be false.

Again, to be clear, my point was never about what might happen, or should happen, if the story is false.

To zoom in on your main interpretation of me: "You decided without knowing any of the persons involved or being there, that 'if it's true it's not unfair that she's been exposed'". Yes, correct. The same way that, without knowing any of the persons involved, if someone burgled my house, I'd think it fair that they be exposed for doing so.

If this point isn't making sense to you, this is probably where we need to draw the line. Separately, I never made any comment to the effect that a false story should be shared. That's you misunderstanding (once again) my point.

Your straw man isn't holding up.

If someone was proven to have burgled your house, of course you would be happy for them to be exposed for doing so even if you didn't know them . But if you couldn't say your house had actually been burgled or there was a burglar...

What you did was jump onto a thread assuming guilt of the celeb wife saying the best way to not be exposed for being x, y or z is to not do it. While also acknowledging after I challenged you, that you can be accused of something and it might not be true.

So there is actually no way to protect ourselves from false accusations so your original point, and your subsequent point which implied guilt is wrong.

You won't gaslight me into your version. Your version was clear. In a thread about an unverified accusation of rudeness to a waitress and some people expressing concern about the clamouring for 'exposure', you said well the best way to avoid exposure is not to do it in the first place. So if you do it, you risk exposure.

Then you said when I suggested it might not even be true, but yeah they might not have done it.

Then you just backtracked saying yes they might not have done it but if they did..then they would be guilty

Well yeah, if there was evidence they did it.

Tarkan · 04/09/2023 14:41

I've been on The Chase as well and had a great time with Bradley. They had to cut out a whole load of stuff we were talking about as I was trying to teach him how to properly say a Scottish ch noise, telling him the history of the nickname of my local football team (something the Beast seemed to be listening attentively to) and then Bradley was making some jokes that were just a bit too rude to show on TV. We had a great time. Grin

FullFatPhil · 04/09/2023 14:41

"Posting an opinion about a celeb is not the same as being a 'mob' (how can one person be a mob anyway?) and is not the same as behaving like a bully."

Christ, it's like banging my head against a brick wall 🤪. For one last time...You and other posters together make up the mob. It is mob mentality. And it's disgusting, cowardly, bully behaviour.

FullFatPhil · 04/09/2023 14:44

@MadeleineMummy that story is horrible.

Utter scumbags.

Lambiriyani · 04/09/2023 14:52

Tabloid journalists go on Mumsnet for stories?

ArcaneWireless · 04/09/2023 14:55

I confess that I really judge folk on how they treat others when out and about. It doesn’t matter who or what they are.

I remember being ‘volunteered’ to waitress at a Traf night. A very kind officer took me aside when I did something wrong and explained gently what should be done. Someone else got chewed out loudly by a junior officer who thought it fine to make a show of the poor lad. He was told to shut it by his fellow diners but the harm was done and word spread very quickly round the junior ranks that he was a grade A knob.

Fine to point it out if something is amiss with your meal but I can’t be doing with folk who act like Charlie big bananas to make someone else feel small or embarrassed when all they are doing is their job.

Would I ever sell a story about anyone though? No.

limitedperiodonly · 04/09/2023 14:56

@cattreatsanddragrace why don't you just call and ask the Daily Mail on their listed switchboard number if they'd be interested? They might be but on the facts you've presented I'd think not

It's possibly a story for MailOnline which is discrete from the paper and has acres of space. Again, I think you'd strike out but you might strike lucky. Do you have footage including audio from your phone? That's vital.

Are you asking for a specific contact to flog it to? I can steer you in the right direction but it'll cost you. We all have to earn a living.

Lambiriyani · 04/09/2023 14:57

Was Bradley Walsh rude?

I've always imagined actors on Doctor Who are kind souls irl

HufflyShuffly · 04/09/2023 15:01

FullFatPhil · 04/09/2023 14:41

"Posting an opinion about a celeb is not the same as being a 'mob' (how can one person be a mob anyway?) and is not the same as behaving like a bully."

Christ, it's like banging my head against a brick wall 🤪. For one last time...You and other posters together make up the mob. It is mob mentality. And it's disgusting, cowardly, bully behaviour.

Posters might not be staging a protest outside someone's home or being involved in mob violence but the psychology is the same and it can be just as damaging online.

"Someone I don't know online anonymously said something about someone I also don't know online".

And because the 1st person that I don’t know said something negative about the 2nd person I don't know, it's fine for me me to call them names, want them to be publicly shamed, hate them, make judgments on their life, character, marriage and want them to suffer consequences the public decide are justified.

When the mob doesn't know the anonymous MN poster, they don't know if it's true, they don't the accused person at all.

It's 100% mob mentality. And it's disgusting.

It's not socially acceptable to lynch people or physically drive them out of their homes but it's the same mentality. And in the modern world just drives people to mental health problems, having to move, be unemployed, harassed, suicide etc.

While the mob think since they're not outside someone's house and just spewing hate online it's all fine.

Canthave2manycats · 04/09/2023 15:10

I think this thread is in appalling taste.

Bit ironic, given its context. What you have done here @cattreatsanddragrace is far worse than you have accused this lady of saying!!

limitedperiodonly · 04/09/2023 15:10

Bradley Walsh was really nice to my mum on several occasions in their local supermarket and once to me in a bizarre encounter when I was with her and we encountered him and he said: "Hello, Limited. You're Mary's clever daughter. She's told me so much about you and how good you'd be on The Chase. You must email us."

And then he went.

His wife was not with him.

My abiding regret is not going on The Chase. I'm a very competitive person which I get from my mum.

But if I'd have won the Nobel Peace Prize in my mum's eyes it would have been second to me beating The Chaser.

She'd have let me off if I lost but I know that in her heart of hearts she would have been very disappointed.

LineDriedSheets · 04/09/2023 15:16

MadeleineMummy · 04/09/2023 14:22

When I was quite young teenager before leaving for University, I worked as a waitress in a quiet swanky restaurant. A quite rich looking woman sent back her fillet steak and asked for it to be cooked more as it was underdone.

the chef took the steak in his hands, pulled down his trousers and wiped his arse with the steak, then wiped the floor with it and all the chefs took turns spitting on it before putting it back underneath the grill until it was nearly burnt to buggery. Then he served it and I took it out to the woman. She said it was lovely. I will never forget this.

I never send food back nearly 40 years later and just don’t eat it if it is not good.

This can be filed straight under "things that never happened".

MaggieFS · 04/09/2023 15:18

Bobbotgegrinch · 04/09/2023 10:02

Why does it matter that she was a celebs wife? What's wrong with "Woman rude in pub" as your thread title? Why define this woman by her husband?

Disclaimer: I know I'm ranting unreasonably here, but literally just finished seething at Alistair Campbell and Rory Stewart's interview with "Nick Cleggs wife" and there may be some transference of rage going on.

That's interesting. I haven't got around to listening to it yet, but was pleased to note in the trailer that they did NOT mention Clegg at all.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 04/09/2023 15:22

cattreatsanddragrace · 04/09/2023 10:53

Hahahaha posted this then disappeared to do a bit of work, didn't think I'd get any body interested!
You're all right, probably not worth a fiver.

It was Bradley Walsh and his wife, who I'm led to believe is called Donna Derby.

And yes I referred to her as his wife, because I didn't have a clue who she was and didn't think anyone else would. He is the more famous so that is how it goes, I'm not being sexist.

And to those of you who said I'm boring or gossipy for noting these obvious interactions at a table directly in front of me...yep, I'm a gossip. Live freely in the knowledge that you're a better and more holier person than I :)

my DB worked with Bradders last year on a tv job. He said he was lovely and gif a selfie with him but some say he’s rude.

His wife does sound a rude mare though. Honestly…. Prob best to ignore. Everyone knows the rude ones. And they’re rarely having an off day either.