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Minor celebs wife being rude in pub

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cattreatsanddragrace · 04/09/2023 09:28

Went to a country pub yesterday with my partner. Nice little place in the Surrey countryside, part of a chain, not fine dining. Very busy as the weather was really good, some stressed looking teenage girls trying to serve everyone. Kids play area in the garden and a bar in the garden area for drinks. We were sat on the patio attached to the restaurant.

A minor TV celeb, his wife, and another couple were sat across from us. The wife of the minor celeb complained a few times (that I heard).

First time: That one of the starters came out fractionally behind one of the others. (It was busy, there were four of them, the waitress can only carry two plates?!)

Second time: that the prawns in their prawn cocktail were inedible. (To be fair, I'd let this complaint slide as I didn't eat the prawn cocktail. It could have been bad). The waitress apologised and had a new dish made for them.

Third time: and this is the one that got me. The mains came, and the waitress went to put the plates down. The wife of the celeb laughed and stopped the waitress, and told her that "you don't serve plates from that side" aka the waitress was stood on the wrong side of her putting her plate down. She made the waitress go round the other side and put her plate down. This wasn't a silver service Michelin starred restaurant where you might expect such things. Just a standard pub.

So my (lighthearted) AIBU - do I sell this story to the Daily Mail and name and shame?

OP posts:
CauldronOfLove · 04/09/2023 13:22

She thinks she’s Hyacinth Bouquet

Riapia · 04/09/2023 13:31

I find it difficult to believe that the wife of a celeb, however minor, would be seen in anywhere that would grant access to an MN’er.
😉😁😁😁

Yalta · 04/09/2023 13:31

I sort of get the first one if the last person’s starter came out a long time after the other people’s at the table

And I do understand the prawn issue if they weren’t right. No one wants to eat a dodgy prawn
But in a country pub setting, even mentioning that someone isn’t served from the side that fine dining adheres to is just being a tw*t

Dramatico · 04/09/2023 13:32

FullFatPhil · 04/09/2023 13:04

"I've worked in food service for eight years and absolutely would rather complaints of this nature were made to the manager, who I regularly deferred to when customers were being twats.

Go patronise yourself, @FullFatPhil"

How do you get through 8 years without being able to handle someone saying "excuse me, these prawns aren't cooked, please can you take them back"?! You're very thin skinned for that job.

When I worked in a place like the op described, the manager spent half the day sitting in her office. It would've been hilarious if every time someone had an issue with their food they got up to discreetly try and find her 🤣. And all because they think I can't do my job. So patronising.

Oh give over, @FullFatPhil

You know full well that it was the comment about serving from the wrong side that was the twatty comment, as per the OP.

You also know nothing about the prawns and what if anything was wrong with them.

You also know nothing about my employment experiences or the density of my skin.

In fact you know nothing about anything at all but in your desperate attempts to defend bradley Walsh's wife's general twattishness, you're contorting yourself and lashing out at other posters.

Give it a rest

FullFatPhil · 04/09/2023 13:34

"And yes of course waiting staff should be asked to return cold or burnt or inedible food to the kitchen, letting someone know that the food is not right is not the same as making a complaint."

Smacks of someone who went of on a full blown rant then came back after a quick re-read @Ghostjail 😉

The OP said that she was asked to return inedible food to the kitchen and did so. So your massive tangent was for nothing.

The 8 years in service poster disagrees with you. For her dodgy prawns she would spend ages trying to discreetly locate (potentially hiding in office) manager 🤣

LunaNorth · 04/09/2023 13:34

HRTadvicepls · 04/09/2023 12:28

Omg, @LunaNorth is Bradley Walsh!

Yep, all day long 😉

Æthelred · 04/09/2023 13:37

I've not read the entire thread but a word to the wise - always be polite to those who serve your food. If you're rude you may run the risk of unwanted "extras" in your meal.

FullFatPhil · 04/09/2023 13:40

"In fact you know nothing about anything at all but in your desperate attempts to defend bradley Walsh's wife's general twattishness, you're contorting yourself and lashing out at other posters."

Oh give over @Dramatico I see your user name reflects your language though.

I'm simply pointing out how horrid it is, this mob mentality against someone none of us know, based on an anonymous post. It took just minutes for her to be called "an uppity cunt". Her whole family have been slated. If you're ok with that, fine. Says more about you than me.

iamwhatiam23 · 04/09/2023 13:41

flapjackfairy · 04/09/2023 10:57

I would consider Bradley Walsh a bit more than a minor celebrity myself !

I wouldn't

Ghostjail · 04/09/2023 13:41

FullFatPhil · 04/09/2023 13:34

"And yes of course waiting staff should be asked to return cold or burnt or inedible food to the kitchen, letting someone know that the food is not right is not the same as making a complaint."

Smacks of someone who went of on a full blown rant then came back after a quick re-read @Ghostjail 😉

The OP said that she was asked to return inedible food to the kitchen and did so. So your massive tangent was for nothing.

The 8 years in service poster disagrees with you. For her dodgy prawns she would spend ages trying to discreetly locate (potentially hiding in office) manager 🤣

Asking someone to take food back to the kitchen isn't complaining.

The person is question behaved unreasonably and you know it.

One starter coming slightly later then the others should have been let go in the first instance. The prawns should have been sent back. At that point you ask to speak to a manager- you don't pontificate about where the waiter has put your plate. It was designed to embarrass the server and show the customer's "knowledge" not to improve service.

I stand by every one of my tangent post 🤣

FullFatPhil · 04/09/2023 13:44

"Asking someone to take food back to the kitchen isn't complaining.

The person is question behaved unreasonably and you know it."

Confused I know it? How the fuck would I know if an anonymous post is genuine or a complete fabrication?

And yes, it is a complaint, which the waitress resolved. Stop splitting hairs

HufflyShuffly · 04/09/2023 13:44

Hayley0203 · 04/09/2023 13:16

You keep focusing on the idea that the story might be false - of course it might be. As might any story you've ever heard, ever. Everything you see on the news could be false. I can't control that, no one can.

My point, and your point that the story might be false, are mutually exclusive.

The only, and very simple, point that I'm making, is that IF this story is true, and IF she has been rude unnecessarily to the pub staff, THEN it's not "unfair" for people to expose her for it, as some are claiming.

Exactly. A lot of ifs.

You make no sense. I challenged your post where you said "if you don't want to be exposed for being rude to wait staff, then don't be rude". So i said you don't know anything happened at all. And you replied no i don't but if it was true, she deserves to be exposed.

So i said okay so you don’t know it's true but you think it's okay for random anonymous people on the Internet to expose people even though it might not be true?

So all those 'ifs' are my point. You decided without knowing any of the persons involved or being there, that 'if it's true it's not unfair that she's been exposed'

But how about if it isn't true? Someone's being accused of something publicly and named and called horrendous names. Is that okay just in case it might be true?

So if I said Hayley0203 is called Jessica Jones in RL and I named you on the Internet and said you bullied me at school. And posters said you were a bitch, a cunt, an utter bastard, scum, and you should be exposed for the bullying bastard you are etc based on my post.

And that wasn't true. I made it up or exaggerated it. Or people didn't even care about your name and just wanted to vent on the Internet about you, you'd say it was fine because it's fine to do that if it's true but would be not fine if it was untrue?

And how about if it is true? What's your line? Someone being 'exposed' for being possibly rude to a waitress and her being called a cunt, a bitch, a bastard and her life, character and husband being attacked and bullied by dozens of people online?

Is that justified?

iamwhatiam23 · 04/09/2023 13:45

imagiantwitch · 04/09/2023 11:24

This doesn’t surprise me, as Bradley Walsh is actually a bit of an arse in real life too!

I've never met him but he really gives off " don't you know who i am?" Vibes to me! Arrogant and smug, just something about him i really dislike! But as i said I've never met him and he could be perfectly lovely for all I know although if he was he would have pulled his wife up on her awful behaviour to the young waitress!

OhYeahyeahyeah · 04/09/2023 13:45

I have managed Pubs / Restaurants in Surrey for many Years and it is always full of minor Celebs with the worst behaviour, there seems to be a lot in the area!

HufflyShuffly · 04/09/2023 13:51

Tatslookawful · 04/09/2023 13:04

No one can say this even happened. Lynch mob behaviour.

100%

Some person said anonymously online that something happened and dozens of MNetters not even questioning it before calling the person who has been publicly named and they don't know and hadn't heard of previously, a cunt and assassinating their life and character.

It's an absolute example of the toxicity and abuse via social media that some people seem to thrive on.

Hayley0203 · 04/09/2023 13:57

HufflyShuffly · 04/09/2023 13:44

Exactly. A lot of ifs.

You make no sense. I challenged your post where you said "if you don't want to be exposed for being rude to wait staff, then don't be rude". So i said you don't know anything happened at all. And you replied no i don't but if it was true, she deserves to be exposed.

So i said okay so you don’t know it's true but you think it's okay for random anonymous people on the Internet to expose people even though it might not be true?

So all those 'ifs' are my point. You decided without knowing any of the persons involved or being there, that 'if it's true it's not unfair that she's been exposed'

But how about if it isn't true? Someone's being accused of something publicly and named and called horrendous names. Is that okay just in case it might be true?

So if I said Hayley0203 is called Jessica Jones in RL and I named you on the Internet and said you bullied me at school. And posters said you were a bitch, a cunt, an utter bastard, scum, and you should be exposed for the bullying bastard you are etc based on my post.

And that wasn't true. I made it up or exaggerated it. Or people didn't even care about your name and just wanted to vent on the Internet about you, you'd say it was fine because it's fine to do that if it's true but would be not fine if it was untrue?

And how about if it is true? What's your line? Someone being 'exposed' for being possibly rude to a waitress and her being called a cunt, a bitch, a bastard and her life, character and husband being attacked and bullied by dozens of people online?

Is that justified?

Thank you for explaining that all again, but I did understand you the first time.

I fully grasp and appreciate your point that the story might be false.

Again, to be clear, my point was never about what might happen, or should happen, if the story is false.

To zoom in on your main interpretation of me: "You decided without knowing any of the persons involved or being there, that 'if it's true it's not unfair that she's been exposed'". Yes, correct. The same way that, without knowing any of the persons involved, if someone burgled my house, I'd think it fair that they be exposed for doing so.

If this point isn't making sense to you, this is probably where we need to draw the line. Separately, I never made any comment to the effect that a false story should be shared. That's you misunderstanding (once again) my point.

ImNotWorthy · 04/09/2023 13:59

To the thread police: if you are sincere, why do you keep posting? It keeps the thread in Trending, and won't alter other posters' behaviour one jot.

PoochProblem · 04/09/2023 14:00

I was on The Chase once. Bradley was superficially very friendly but gave you no chance to actually chat. Made a huge deal of greeting all the camera crew by name in a ‘I’m a nice guy because I know the crew’s names’ way. The Vixen was nicer.

TheEyesOfLucyJordon · 04/09/2023 14:06

PoochProblem · 04/09/2023 14:00

I was on The Chase once. Bradley was superficially very friendly but gave you no chance to actually chat. Made a huge deal of greeting all the camera crew by name in a ‘I’m a nice guy because I know the crew’s names’ way. The Vixen was nicer.

I was on Beat The Chasers and I thought he was great. As were all the Chasers 😚

horseyhorsey17 · 04/09/2023 14:09

Do it!

Dramatico · 04/09/2023 14:11

FullFatPhil · 04/09/2023 13:40

"In fact you know nothing about anything at all but in your desperate attempts to defend bradley Walsh's wife's general twattishness, you're contorting yourself and lashing out at other posters."

Oh give over @Dramatico I see your user name reflects your language though.

I'm simply pointing out how horrid it is, this mob mentality against someone none of us know, based on an anonymous post. It took just minutes for her to be called "an uppity cunt". Her whole family have been slated. If you're ok with that, fine. Says more about you than me.

So, you're so offended by the baseless personal insult thrown by an anonymous poster at Donna Derby that you, an anonymous poster, have chosen to register your disapproval by throwing baseless personal insults at me?

Please don't hurt yourself with all that flailing.

PoochProblem · 04/09/2023 14:12

TheEyesOfLucyJordon · 04/09/2023 14:06

I was on Beat The Chasers and I thought he was great. As were all the Chasers 😚

Maybe I just got him on a stand offish day. Hope you did better than I did. The Vixen was on top form.

LondonLass91 · 04/09/2023 14:12

This thread has gotton nasty...I know Donna and have worked with her previously for years, and can assure you she ìs absolutely not the sort of person who would tell a waitress to serve from the other side. She is a down to earth cockney girl, like me, really lovely and polite

Iwantmyoldnameback · 04/09/2023 14:12

TheEyesOfLucyJordon · 04/09/2023 14:06

I was on Beat The Chasers and I thought he was great. As were all the Chasers 😚

My friend was on the Chase and she loved him, said they never stopped laughing.

Barney went to the same school as a relative of mine and both he and Bradley support a lot of the fundraising there. We all see people differently.

TheEyesOfLucyJordon · 04/09/2023 14:15

PoochProblem · 04/09/2023 14:12

Maybe I just got him on a stand offish day. Hope you did better than I did. The Vixen was on top form.

Hey PP, you're probably right. I guess he has bad days like the rest of us.

Sorry that you didn't win. Me neither: I was five seconds off and playing for £100k. If only I could have recalled which coast Latvia was on ..... 😬