Page 8 | To think the Tories must actually want to loose the next election?

malificent7 · 2023-09-04T08:18:26+00:00

School closures for repairs just before the term starts is bonkers. Are they now content with the amount of money they have plundered and now want Labour to inherit the mess or are they hoping that the dumb electorate will still vote for them or say " well the cost of living has hit everywhere...its nothing to do with Brexit?" Or " but boats."? I don't get it.

DuncinToffee · 04/09/2023 21:56

It's not just schools, it's also hospitals, court buildings and now theatres.

Itslosenotloose · 04/09/2023 22:01

I feel similar. It’s literally like they want to lose.

Kendodd · 04/09/2023 22:11

Personally, I blame Tory voters for the state of the country. We get what we vote for. They can own their own mess.

Kendodd · 04/09/2023 22:13

Itslosenotloose · 04/09/2023 22:01

I feel similar. It’s literally like they want to lose.

I don't think that.
I think this is them governing to their values and competency.

Itslosenotloose · 04/09/2023 22:17

@Kendodd

I don’t doubt that but surely there comes a tipping point whereby in order to govern you should try not to overly piss the general public off should you wish to remain in power. It’s a horrible political cycle this country has got itself into.

To me, to you, to me, to you…. Labour, Tory, labour, Tory.

Its bloody tiresome.

BIossomtoes · 04/09/2023 22:21

It’s been like it all my life. I can’t see it changing before I die.

Anniegetyourgun · 04/09/2023 22:46

Clearly some of you have forgotten that Jeremy Corbyn was the worst Prime Minister this country ever

Oh. Oops.

BIossomtoes · 04/09/2023 22:48

Anniegetyourgun · 04/09/2023 22:46

Clearly some of you have forgotten that Jeremy Corbyn was the worst Prime Minister this country ever

Oh. Oops.

😂

Newusernaming · 04/09/2023 23:00

lightinthebox · 04/09/2023 11:44

I’m politically homeless now, but Tories ‘know what a woman is’ so that’s more important to some people than school buildings being unsafe.

Well said.

Newusernaming · 04/09/2023 23:30

Dibblydoodahdah · 04/09/2023 12:34

I want to know how labour are going to turn the country around. If they can come up with some decent properly costed policies I may vote for them for the first time in my life. As it is all I’ve heard is the £1 billion they are going to raise from VAT on private school fees (a drop in the ocean of the £70 billion yearly schools budget). They say that they are not going to raise income tax (which is understandable given that the tax burden is at a 70 year high) but how are they actually going to fund improvements to schools, healthcare and other public services?!

And for what amazing policies have you been voting for tory all these years?

verdantverdure · 05/09/2023 00:18

The Tories were told there was a critical risk to life if the RAAC programme was not funded.

The Tories did not fund it.

Gillian Keegan is right, she's the first one to go "Fucksaje this is CHILDREN's lives they're talking about!" and close the most overdue for repair schools.

The rest of the Tories,

Sunak and Gove particularly.

did not give a shiny shit about our children.

To think the Tories must actually want to loose the next election?

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/09/2023 00:41

Newusernaming · 04/09/2023 19:41

But why do people keep getting folled by tories?

Edited

Not everyone is.

The last GE saw PM Johnson win with a landslide because he said he'd deliver a Brexit that would benefit the UK and its citizens. Now everyone knows he was lying.

GC feminists voted for them because they believed "at least the Tories know what a woman is". This has been proven wrong by Gillian Keegan, Jamie Wallis and no beginning to them challenging the TRAs in the party or safeguarding women's and children's rights.

Some voted for them because of their tough line on immigration.🤦‍♀️ Or for them being the party of law and order.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️. Or because they were the party of fiscal responsibility.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😂

The Tories have managed to piss off every demographic in the country. Including Tory voters. Sunak's is a zombie government and the Tories are toast at the next election.

verdantverdure · 05/09/2023 00:44

I can't argue with that @TooBigForMyBoots .

You'd be a fool to vote for 5 more years of this.
^
And surely we've only got about 17 million voters who are that easily manipulated? ^

And they are spread out over hundreds of constituencies.

CallieQ · 05/09/2023 00:48

longwayoff · 04/09/2023 09:24

I hope so. Dont make us wait too long.

This

verdantverdure · 05/09/2023 01:10

I don't think that. I think this is them governing to their values and competency*

I do too.

Abhannmor · 05/09/2023 01:26

Anniegetyourgun · 04/09/2023 22:46

Clearly some of you have forgotten that Jeremy Corbyn was the worst Prime Minister this country ever

Oh. Oops.

True indeed. He took Britain out of the world's richest market because he's a old commie in a time warp.

Give it 5 years and people will believe this.

verdantverdure · 05/09/2023 01:53

I take back my earlier foolish Gillian Keegan supporting comment.

A reliable source has informed us that in early February, two months after the risk level was raised to high, Education Secretary Gillian Keegan remarked, “We just need to keep the lid on this for two years and then it’s someone else’s problem.“

eastangliabylines.co.uk/keegan-keeps-the-lid-on-raac/

Nat6999 · 05/09/2023 04:15

I can't wait for the day they get kicked out of Downing Street. I'm fed up of Rishi parroting that the country is in a better state than it was when they got back in in 2010. The country can't afford to have another Tory government. After yesterday's reshuffle, Labour really do look like a government in waiting. Roll on the General Election.

Nat6999 · 05/09/2023 04:26

We have a zombie government, every day is like groundhog day. You can bet every sitting day will be shorter & shorter, Suella Braverman will continue to spout her venom from the despatch box, I'm fully expecting her head to start spinning & fly off any minute. Rishi the Roland Rat lookalike can only say "stop the boats, halve inflation & grow the economy" on repeat. The sooner they are gone, the better.

Lastchancechica · 05/09/2023 08:04

I think you are all getting a bit ahead of yourselves. To put it very mildly one might ask why people are not more enthused about a possible new administration?

Why the public have big reservations trusting Stammer? Why are they not flocking to Labour? I mean if not now, when? Because things are pretty grim right now so why such a decidedly luke warm response to Labour?

The truth is that people just don’t like them. Not even the red/blue wall voters. No one buys the Islington elite as representing anything but their own limited myopic narrow view of the world. Angela will be wheeled out as one of the people but we see what Labour is today. It’s a fractured party with no idea how to grow the economy, improve services and make anything better. They are out to settle scores.

Anxioys · 05/09/2023 08:19

Given the Labour Party are twenty points ahead across the polls before this concrete mess and even more popular with women than men, it looks like they doing quite well with this demographic.

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2023 08:29

Lastchancechica · 05/09/2023 08:04

I think you are all getting a bit ahead of yourselves. To put it very mildly one might ask why people are not more enthused about a possible new administration?

Why the public have big reservations trusting Stammer? Why are they not flocking to Labour? I mean if not now, when? Because things are pretty grim right now so why such a decidedly luke warm response to Labour?

The truth is that people just don’t like them. Not even the red/blue wall voters. No one buys the Islington elite as representing anything but their own limited myopic narrow view of the world. Angela will be wheeled out as one of the people but we see what Labour is today. It’s a fractured party with no idea how to grow the economy, improve services and make anything better. They are out to settle scores.

Any chance you can tell us what Labour's eyewatering woke agenda is?

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/09/01/rishi-sunak-government-institutionally-corrupt-poll-voters/

Majority of voters believe Sunak's Government is "institutionally corrupt" - Just 15% disagree - 57% say corruption has got worse over recent years

Rishi Sunak's Government is 'Institutionally Corrupt' Say Voters – Byline Times

Rishi Sunak's Government is 'institutionally corrupt' say voters in new poll as ministers reject measures to root out dirty money from UK

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/09/01/rishi-sunak-government-institutionally-corrupt-poll-voters

AdamRyan · 05/09/2023 08:32

Interesting interpretation.
I think its impossible to know what people think of labour, when the media is constantly taken up with Conservative own goals.

The RAAC is a massive own goal because one of the first things the Conservatives did in 2010 was cancel Labour's school building project as "too expensive".

Labour (and all the other parties) don't have to do anything at the moment other than 🍿and maybe make a comment about the conservatives mess ups. Must be quite a fun position.

Arguably it would be a more risky strategy for any party to say anything about their policies as it would give the Conservatives something to talk about, other than their own implosion.

I'm enjoying it all very much.

AdamRyan · 05/09/2023 08:32

Ugh. I can't quote any more. That was to chica

Anxioys · 05/09/2023 08:32

Today I'm just interested to see if Keegan keeps her fucking good job.

I should think so, because Sunak has his own problems, but this government is finished by its own deeds.