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Husband says I’ve signed over the house to him without me knowing

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InternetSafe · 29/08/2023 13:14

My husband often jokes that he has tricked me into signing the house over to him. He has said it for years. It’s really tedious but last night he said it again and added ‘check the deeds’. We paid off our home about 10 years ago and it is quite a valuable property for our area.

There have been occasions when I am busy working and he has put papers in front of me and asked me to sign so he can get them in the post (mainly to do with correspondence to our accountant for example).

But this is not possible surely? I mean as a married couple I am entitled to half anyway aren’t I? He is playing mind games with me and I’m not sure what to believe anymore

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Taxbreaks · 29/08/2023 13:48

If anyone causes distress by referring to similar matters, I would recommend booking an hour of your solicitor's time on each and every occasion and sending them the bill.

I'm not a lawyer but this looks like it:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/section/2

2 Fraud by false representation

(1)A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a)dishonestly makes a false representation, and

(b)intends, by making the representation—

(i)to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii)to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

(2)A representation is false if—

(a)it is untrue or misleading, and

(b)the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.

(3)“Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—

(a)the person making the representation, or

(b)any other person.

(4)A representation may be express or implied.

(5)For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).

Fraud Act 2006

An Act to make provision for, and in connection with, criminal liability for fraud and obtaining services dishonestly.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/section/2

MinnieMountain · 29/08/2023 13:48

Not possible. Any document he had you sign would need to be witnessed. He can’t be a witness as he’s related to you by being your husband. Anyone else stupid enough to “witness” a signature they didn’t see done is committing fraud.

CherryMaDeara · 29/08/2023 13:49

Demand to see all the papers.

Don’t be so cavalier with these things, you should know where all property documents are.

I’m guessing you also don’t have access to joint savings.

frozencarlotta · 29/08/2023 13:50

you've signed things without reading them??

do you have it in writing that he has tricked you

purplecorkheart · 29/08/2023 13:50

Is he trying to make a point about your habit of signing things without reading?

Or is he one of those bores that thing they are being funny. The same kind who when asked if they want sugar in there coffee reply they are sweet enough.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 29/08/2023 13:51

And stop signing things without reading them FGS

ProfessorSlocombe · 29/08/2023 13:52

Home hijacking is a thing

BadNomad · 29/08/2023 13:54

Are you daft enough to sign something without checking what it is? If not, then he's either just being a dick, or he has fraudulently signed the documents as you.

horseyhorsey17 · 29/08/2023 13:56

I'm pretty sure for something like this you'd need to get the signature witnessed, so you couldn't sign over your house unwittingly. But why does your husband keep telling you this if he hasn't done it? Unless he's actually trying to make a pointed comment about how you need to check stuff before signing it.

Odd. And yeah he doesn't sound very nice.

midgemadgemodge · 29/08/2023 13:58

Isn't it pretty irrelevant since he's your husband ?

LongDarkTeatime · 29/08/2023 13:59

@InternetSafe why not take him seriously when he says it? Ask why the hell he did that and make an appointment for you both at the bank/solicitor or wherever the deeds are kept.
If he honest apologises for a bad joke, fine. If not keep the appointment and make sure it’s on record you have no intention of signing house away and any other action should be seen as fraud.

TaigaSno · 29/08/2023 13:59

First, I would check it if it true. As other have said, there are ways to look this up.
Second, I'd see a solicitor.
Third, I would leave him.

This sounds an abusive relationship! He may not be physically hurting you, but he's mentally tormenting you, and that's just as bad.
I feel concerned for you. Do you have any close family or friends who can support you through separation?

bonzaitree · 29/08/2023 13:59

You can check who owns any registered property on the land registry website for a minimal fee.

i wonder why your OH is gaslighting you / attempting to make you feel insecure…

category12 · 29/08/2023 13:59

Check the deeds as everyone has said - and go a bit further, get a restriction put on so that your rights are protected.

Clefable · 29/08/2023 14:01

Signing away rights to property takes more than just a signature in a box. You'd need to have your ID checked, it would most likely need to be witnessed, etc. So if he has done it, it'll be fraudulent.

But why the hell are you still married to someone you believe could have done this to you? Confused

Toomanylaughs · 29/08/2023 14:04

Grumpy101 · 29/08/2023 13:46

so check the fucking deeds?! It costs £3. Then get legal advice. He's either a gaslighter or a fraudster, I wouldn't want to be married tonhim either way

all of this, exactly.

thegreylady · 29/08/2023 14:05

My husband died recently and in order to put the house in my sole name I had to produce his death certificate and a signed, witnessed form.

Jokesadooooo · 29/08/2023 14:07

As others have said, for £3 you can download your deeds. I would start there.

Yetanothernewname101 · 29/08/2023 14:07

If he has pulled this stunt then he's also faked the witness signature. We signed over property to one of our children and it had to be witnessed.
That aside, he doesn't sound a very nice person.

YukoandHiro · 29/08/2023 14:08

100 per cent check the deeds.

If you're actually married it belongs to you anyway whoever is on the deeds m as your assets are shared.

If he has actually done this divorce him, take him for 50 per cent minimum and then charge him criminally for fraud.

Jokesadooooo · 29/08/2023 14:08

Also coming from a previous Conveyancing background, the solicitor involved in the transfer would have needed to verify your ID before undertaking any instructions. That’s before the deed needing signed and witnessed.

Zonder · 29/08/2023 14:08

Does he always try to cheat you and get one over on you?

wordler · 29/08/2023 14:09

Well he’s either done something unethical and intended to hurt you or he’s pretending he’s done something unethical to make you upset and worry.

Neither of those situations is good - the first one though will take legal advise and more to sort out.

So I hope you’ve taken the first step needed which is actually finding out where you stand.

Chowtime · 29/08/2023 14:10

YABU because you couldn't be bothered to check the deeds and you sign stuff without reading it first.

TheClitterati · 29/08/2023 14:15

Him - You've signed over the house to me.

You - I'll get half in the divorce anyway ........ of all of it when you die. <knowing smile>

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