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Husband says I’ve signed over the house to him without me knowing

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InternetSafe · 29/08/2023 13:14

My husband often jokes that he has tricked me into signing the house over to him. He has said it for years. It’s really tedious but last night he said it again and added ‘check the deeds’. We paid off our home about 10 years ago and it is quite a valuable property for our area.

There have been occasions when I am busy working and he has put papers in front of me and asked me to sign so he can get them in the post (mainly to do with correspondence to our accountant for example).

But this is not possible surely? I mean as a married couple I am entitled to half anyway aren’t I? He is playing mind games with me and I’m not sure what to believe anymore

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landbeforegrime · 29/08/2023 13:33

if you divorce the starting point is 50/50 but if he dies before you and has left a will leaving it to someone else you might have a mess on your hands. i don't know what the end result would be, you'd probably end up arguing it in court and asking for a life interest so you couldn't be booted out, but ultimately you might not be able to claim ownership and gift it as you would otherwise have liked in your will. if he's tricked you into signing it over to him then you probably do want to get a divorce anyway though, so the - what happens when he dies - scenario wouldn't be relevant. there's nothing funny about it and he sounds really unkind. It would be an odd thing to joke about so I presume he's telling the truth. You need to check the deeds as others have said and decide from there what you want to do.

justanothermanicmonday1 · 29/08/2023 13:34

Aquamarine1029 · 29/08/2023 13:15

Why are you still married to this insufferable prick?

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Xiaoxiong · 29/08/2023 13:34

Oh and sign up for Property Alert: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/property-alert

Then no one can make any changes or take out a mortgage without informing you.

Property Alert

Sign up to HM Land Registry's free Property Alert service to help protect your property from fraud.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/property-alert

Jamielikescheese · 29/08/2023 13:34

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Alleycat1 · 29/08/2023 13:34

Agree with. Should have been at start of my post

morbidd · 29/08/2023 13:35

And please for the love of god report back here. Too many posts when the OP has left us in limbo.

Doggymummar · 29/08/2023 13:36

Just check then divorce him. Dick

Duchessofspace · 29/08/2023 13:36

Record him saying it and ask him how and why he did this without your knowledge or consent - then you have a record of what he is saying

Whatswhatwhichiswhich · 29/08/2023 13:36

I’d be more worried about him gaslighting you so often than weather or not he’s got the house deeds in his name only (though yes, I would also double check this and seek legal advice if that’s the case).

CremeEggThief · 29/08/2023 13:38

Right, ok... so what are you going to do about it now, other than post on here?

LakeTiticaca · 29/08/2023 13:38

Get a copy of the deeds ASAP in case he isn't joking and yes I agree with everyone else, he sounds a complete dickhead and I would be seriously considering divorec

Topseyt123 · 29/08/2023 13:40

Check the deeds, even though it would be considered a marital asset on divorce. It is still to your advantage to have proper shared ownership and your interest in the property legally recognised.

For example, if he dies first or needs care in later years it would help you to have the right to live in the house.

Also, you need to know if he has actually deceived you here, and if he has then that should be a deal breaker leading straight to divorce (and division of assets including the house).

For the love of God, STOP signing things without reading them through and being sure what they are. Stop being so trusting.

Sotiredmjmmy · 29/08/2023 13:40

In short yes it is entirely possible, the various forms he could have used are a couple of pages and could if someone wasn’t overly paying attention not look like much or relatively minor.

As others have said you need to get a copy of the title register for the property from land registry, order it online for £3 and go from there.

You need to look at part B proprietorship register, even if your name is listed at entry B1 what you are then looking for is any restrictions or notes in the other entries in part B, also anything in part C charges register that you are not expecting, eg other mortgages you weren’t aware of

If there is a comment that both of you need to sell (in part B) then that’s what would indicate tenants in common, and then need to find out what the document behind that is from your husband, eg that could say you have signed 100% beneficial ownership to him and that overrides having your name on the title as legal owner - but as you aren’t aware of having done so you are then looking at fraud actions against your husband

You are married so potential other negotiations if divorce and part of that settlement etc

andrainwillmaketheflowersgrow · 29/08/2023 13:41

eastiseastwestiswest · 29/08/2023 13:18

He sounds incredibly irritating- not much of a joke is it?

I'm not a property lawyer but I think what you would need is a deed of severance to sever the joint tenancy which would mean you hold as tenants in common. Then someone needs to register the deed with the land registry. If he's done that then it's possible but it would be grounds for taking him to court of fraud as well as an obvious immediate reason to divorce him.

If OP signed the papers voluntarily, then how would it be fraud?

YouveGotAFastCar · 29/08/2023 13:43

Mmm I'd be careful here.

Telling you repeatedly could very easily be part of the ploy here... You won't be able to say it's fraud (you signed the papers) or that you didn't know (he's repeatedly told you).

Check the deeds.
If he has, get legal advice.
If he hasn't, sign up for the property alert service and consider your marriage.

ICanSeeMyHouseFromHere · 29/08/2023 13:44

It would be fraud because he had her sign them without telling her what they were - presumably telling her they were something else.

You can't trick someone into signing something.

Garihairy · 29/08/2023 13:44

CeciNestPasUnPipi · 29/08/2023 13:20

He's telling you something very valuable about how he feels about you, your relationship, your possessions.

This.

andrainwillmaketheflowersgrow · 29/08/2023 13:45

ICanSeeMyHouseFromHere · 29/08/2023 13:44

It would be fraud because he had her sign them without telling her what they were - presumably telling her they were something else.

You can't trick someone into signing something.

OP says she just signed without paying attention. Not that he didn't tell her what she was signing or that he kept it from her deliberately.

I'm not saying what he did was right, but I'm not sure how she'd go about proving she didn't know what she was putting her signature on Confused

OhComeOnFFS · 29/08/2023 13:46

This is the second thread in half an hour that I've read before.

Grumpy101 · 29/08/2023 13:46

so check the fucking deeds?! It costs £3. Then get legal advice. He's either a gaslighter or a fraudster, I wouldn't want to be married tonhim either way

Jamielikescheese · 29/08/2023 13:47

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TooOldForThisNonsense · 29/08/2023 13:47

Aquamarine1029 · 29/08/2023 13:15

Why are you still married to this insufferable prick?

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Topseyt123 · 29/08/2023 13:48

ICanSeeMyHouseFromHere · 29/08/2023 13:44

It would be fraud because he had her sign them without telling her what they were - presumably telling her they were something else.

You can't trick someone into signing something.

That would probably be hard to prove though, I would think.

It would be her word against his, and no doubt he would claim that he definitely explained it all and they verbally agreed before the signing of the form.

I don't think I have a good feeling about this. I hope I am wrong, but I don't think he is trustworthy.

Iwasafool · 29/08/2023 13:48

Wouldn't something as important as transferring the ownership of a house need a signature witnessed?

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