I’ve withdrawn from organ donation register

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I give blood and have always been very pro organ donation.

Sadly I have just withdrawn as protest against reproductive organ donation. I can’t support it and am very conflicted as would like to donate other organs.

What are your views and is it a hasty decision (although not sure I would change my mind).

Where did I name call? I asked a valid question and hardly anyone wants to respond 🤷🏻‍♀️

A lot of people have responded to you, though. Generally to say they wouldn’t accept an organ if they wouldn’t donate.

I wasn't referring to just you but several others on here who have name-called and accused us of being phobic, transphobic, cruel, selfish, uneducated etc etc. All because they don't agree with some people's decisions.

Apropos of nothing: thank goodness for the edit button to fix typos.

I dont actually think its hypocritical to accept an organ even if you wouldnt donate. The person donating and their family will have thought carefully about their decision to donate and reached a different conclusion to the person who doesnt want to donate. Its ok to respect their decision.

I signed up to donate organs. I dont care if they go to someone who wouldnt have done the same because my feelings are based on my organs not being me anymore. Me will have gone. The person recieving doesnt have to feel the same way about organs as i do.

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No you responded to a reply to me in a way which included me in your wrath.
“ These people while pretending to be virtuous, are heartless and will weaponise children or anything to emotionally manipulate and guilt trip. I would say what I really think of them and how absolutely low they are, but the words I would use would possibly result in a permanent ban first go.”

This 💯

Again - why do some people think they have a right to determine what other people do with their bodies?

Ok so can I ask the reverse then? To those who are donors;

• if womb transplants became the norm would you donate yours?
• if transplants into trans women became the norm would you donate to a trans woman in the hopes they may have a successful pregnancy?

I am genuinely interested, not trying to be goady

I have no quibble with anyone who chooses not to donate some/any of their organs.
What I do struggle with is a whole lot of women withdrawing their permission to use any of their organs because there's now been a uterus transplant and they don't want a trans person to get their womb.

As that absolutely isn't going to happen in the near future, it makes no sense to withdraw all permissions NOW, and if you think you won't find out when anything changes, your paranoia is ridiculous. It'll be all over the news if it does.

And of course at the moment, the procedure has only worked with living donors.

Making a stand against misogyny looks more like throwing your toys out of the pram at this stage, and every bit as useful.

I'll have another look, thankyou. When your out first came in I couldn't find any option like that.

Sorry that should say when opt out first came in.

@captainjacksparrow
if womb transplants became the norm would you donate yours?
Yes, I can't think of a single reason as to why I wouldn't, the same for my liver, heart etc.

if transplants into trans women became the norm would you donate to a trans woman in the hopes they may have a successful pregnancy?

Totally pointless and hysterical question. Womb transplants into transwomen would never become 'the norm'. Do you have any idea about organ transplants? Do you understand how heartbreaking it is to be on the list for an organ, never mind the criteria used for selection? It's not like an Amazon order where you can just order an organ.

It’s a hypothetical question @Hufflepods if it was an option would you donate to a trans woman for them to attempt a pregnancy?

@captainjacksparrow
if womb transplants became the norm would you donate yours?
Yes, sure.

if transplants into trans women became the norm would you donate to a trans woman in the hopes they may have a successful pregnancy?
To 'became the norm' then it would have to be a demonstrably safe thing to do. If it was a demonstrably safe thing to do then yes, why not? I don't think it's a good idea to try it out, really, because I can't see how it's ethical to try it in humans when it hasn't even been successfully done in animals yet. But if you transported me into a far future where somehow uterus transplants into trans women had become an established safe procedure and there was no harm to babies born that way, then I wouldn't have any objections to my own uterus being used that way after death.

How strange

Thanks for replying @flaffydaffy

1. It IS going to happen in the near future.
2. Past experience with things that weren't "going to happen" proves absolutely without a shadow of a doubt it is NOT 'paranoia'. Not even remotely. And this too, like everything else, will be proven.
3. We have little to no trust in them since they can change the rules whenever they want, and many people aren't aware of it at the time. So we cannot possibly take that chance.

Firstly, no need for your misogynistic use of 'hysterical'. It says more about you than anyone else. Secondly, Womb transplants into transwomen would never become 'the norm'. Another "that won't happen". Wake up. It might not become 'the norm', but it most certainly will happen. That's a fact I'd bet my house, career, salary and pension on.

Not really, I did the same.

My body is mine to do with as I see fit. It's not a bag of parts to be handed out after my death. Organ donation should be a gift, not a presumption.

That's a very reasoned response. I opted in over 3 decades ago with the caveat, kept with my physical donor card, that nothing connected to reproductive treatments could be used.

I can't now remember if I opted out when everything became automatic. I might have done as there was no longer the option of making clear that I objected to that use, even just tissue for research. My husband and son know that my wishes are that the major organs can be used.

Yabu
This is what happens when people believe everything they read in the Daily Fail.
I'm so shocked every day at home selfish people have become.

• if womb transplants became the norm would you donate yours?

Absolutely. No reason I can think of as to why not apart from it’s a bit old now so possibly wouldn’t be wanted! 😂

• if transplants into trans women became the norm would you donate to a trans woman in the hopes they may have a successful pregnancy?

Again, yes. Why not? Because a woman was born into the wrong body? I wouldn’t want to deny anyone genuinely wanting a child for the right reasons to not have an opportunity

What is misogynistic about transplanting a womb to help an infertile woman? I can see the possible argument regarding living donors, as by definition they're women, and may feel under pressure to undergo surgery to help someone with a non-life-threatening condition. But what is the problem once someone is dead? (Apart from the fact that it's probably not medically possible anyway.)

As I've said before, no one's obliged to donate; but it seems a pity to use people (many of them women) who need organs or tissue donation, as collateral damaqe in the service of 'taking a stand' for an ideology.